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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 2, 2012 3:23:34 GMT
Same games played as Arsenal and Liverpool, a point clear of Liverpool and two clear of Arsenal. They're only three points off Chelsea. They've been exceptional so far this season, I never thought Pardew had it in him.
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Post by Plave on Feb 2, 2012 7:06:37 GMT
Best team we've seen at the Brit in my opinion
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 2, 2012 7:08:01 GMT
Pardew for England??
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Post by pmjh on Feb 2, 2012 7:21:19 GMT
I honestly thought they would struggle after they lost Carroll, Barton and Nolan. How wrong can you be. Be great if they got into the champions league.
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Post by skeels606 on Feb 2, 2012 7:53:48 GMT
Quote from Pulis - I'll be happy when we get to 40 points so we're safe.
Quote from Pardew - Let's see if we can catch Chelsea.
He may be deluded but good on you Pardew.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Feb 2, 2012 8:22:28 GMT
I'd like to see him maintain Newcastle at that level for a bit longer to prove himself, and if he can, then why not? People are always banging on about how it should be an Englishman managing the national side and he's hardly doing himself any harm this season. I've seen a fair chunk of Newcastle so far and tactically, they've been superb. |
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Post by stokiepo on Feb 2, 2012 9:38:31 GMT
They play positive football making the most of the speed they have in their wingers. Put simply, we haven't been doing that enough. My verdict is that Ethers has been hiding for most part of the season, cutting in-field too much and failing to link up with Wilson like he did last year.
In other news.... Arsenal are as many points off the top of the table as they are from being in a relegation battle. I never expected to see that in February!
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Post by jarhead on Feb 2, 2012 10:11:51 GMT
Skeels.
That really does sum up the Pulis mindset,he always has got to be negative!
With the right team picked lately and tactics we could/should be on at least 36 points now but he has to piss about hoping it works like the west brom debacle with woody on with shotton along with the woefully wank delap over palacios because of the wind ffs!!!
You really couldnt make this shit up
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Post by nott1 on Feb 2, 2012 10:57:16 GMT
Because they signed Demba Ba, the guy who's knee wouldn't last 5 minutes according to OUR medics.
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Post by superjonnywalters on Feb 2, 2012 10:59:11 GMT
Best team we've seen at the Brit in my opinion Agreed. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 2, 2012 11:18:28 GMT
Whilst league position and points total don't show it, I actually think we have a better group of players at our disposal than Newcastle do.
I guess what I am saying is that we clearly have a mentality of survival whilst it wouldn't necessarily harm us if we "reached for the stars" occasionally.
Pulis is and will always be "happy to be here" and anything beyond survival with him is considered to be a bonus.
Let's hope we can get our form going because I always felt, even when they beat us, that we could and probably would finish above them this season. That doesn't seem likely anymore and much of that is because we have pissed about with our team.
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Post by fca47 on Feb 2, 2012 11:18:29 GMT
Basically they have been much more astute in the transfer market than us. Have bought much more skillful players for less money or the same, as we have paid for ageing PL players. We just have to improve our scouting system, if we have one. Keep getting rumours we are watching players in France and Spain but nothing ever happens, except the curious Ba situation.
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Post by stokerambler on Feb 2, 2012 11:51:56 GMT
I seem to recall that pundits and fans were saying Newcastle were 'in a false position' when they were fourth after a month or so, the same being said come November, apparently due to relatively easy fixtures (stretching it, I think that one).
They are still up there despite losing Ba to the African Nations. They are a good team to watch, especially with Ba, who has been sensational. I don't think he would have scored as many goals had he come to Stoke. Our system is much more rigid than Newcastle's. I wish he was with us (obviously) and really do hope his knee holds up as he is such a good player I wouldn't want him to be injured just to prove Stoke's medics were right.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 2, 2012 11:52:11 GMT
I'd like to see him maintain Newcastle at that level for a bit longer to prove himself, and if he can, then why not? People are always banging on about how it should be an Englishman managing the national side and he's hardly doing himself any harm this season. I've seen a fair chunk of Newcastle so far and tactically, they've been superb. To be honest, it's not the worse idea. Most of Newcastle's success this season has been around adapting their play completely to the opposition. Against us they doubled up on our wingers and played Guthrie deep, so that he could join in and triple up on whichever winger had the ball. They created three chances and scored three goals, which was exactly what their gameplan required. The biggest problem with England since Sven is that the managers have always picked the wrong players for the wrong system, presumably under pressure from corporations with expensive sponsorship deals. Capello actually had the right players in the right system in the World Cup qualifiers, but then mysteriously changed it so that he could shoehorn in the big name players. I wonder why. Either pick your best players and use a system that gets the best out of them, or pick a system and find the best players for each role in that system. The big test would be if he could manage to pick players on ability and not reputation. It's a scandal that Heskey got so many caps for England when Kevin Davies spent years as the country's best target man. |
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Post by hchpotter on Feb 2, 2012 13:44:01 GMT
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Feb 2, 2012 13:46:01 GMT
you are not allowed to give Pardew any credit, this is about how shit Pulis is, same as every thing else on here. |
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Post by exiledstokie on Feb 2, 2012 13:46:30 GMT
How dare Newcastle try and get into the top 4, how very dare they!
Don't they know that you have to pull your pants down and bend over for the Prems 'Elite' teams?
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Post by staffordstokie999 on Feb 2, 2012 13:48:56 GMT
How dare Newcastle try and get into the top 4, how very dare they! Don't they know that you have to pull your pants down and bend over for the Prems 'Elite' teams? instead of bending over in the cup for Brighton  |
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Post by steventweed on Feb 2, 2012 14:04:09 GMT
With Ba and Cisse coming back from the ACN, you never know. They seem to be able to win without playing especially well, sign of a good team.
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Post by gnosallpotter on Feb 2, 2012 14:10:35 GMT
Pardew did excellent work at Southampton too. I like the fella, he plays good football and can be a twat to the media when he wants to. Astute signings too.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 2, 2012 20:05:26 GMT
I'd like to see him maintain Newcastle at that level for a bit longer to prove himself, and if he can, then why not? People are always banging on about how it should be an Englishman managing the national side and he's hardly doing himself any harm this season. I've seen a fair chunk of Newcastle so far and tactically, they've been superb. They have also been jammy bastards in several games, too. They cost me £266.00 last night. I had a ninefold accumulator and needed Blackburn to score to pick it up. Best hits his own bar, Guthrie decides to clear one off the line, and cunty Dunne misses a penalty! 33 shots Blackburn had! Who was leading the line, Stevie fucking Wonder?  |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 2, 2012 20:24:06 GMT
I well remember some on here, before christmas, saying that the good start to their season was purely down to the teams they had played being bottom half clubs and they would "be found out" once they were playng decent opposition. Yeh right  |
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Post by shep207 on Feb 3, 2012 12:50:00 GMT
How dare Newcastle try and get into the top 4, how very dare they! Don't they know that you have to pull your pants down and bend over for the Prems 'Elite' teams? Such as drawing to Man United and Chelsea and beating Liverpool and Spurs? Not to mention the wins against Arsenal over the last few years... |
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Post by simpson93 on Feb 3, 2012 13:02:18 GMT
I actually think we have a better group of players at our disposal than Newcastle do. Sorry mate youve lost your head, Tim Krul, good keeper Danny Simpson, quality pacey RB who can bother defend and attack Truthfully i believe our centre halfs are better THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A LEFT BACK - Ryan Taylor, quality player especially from dead balls Again i believe our wingers are better but i have to say Toite* is better than any of our holding midfielders Cabaye* plays same as Glenn and Cabaye is MUCH better at it Demba Ba*, name one of our strikers with his QUALITY They have a better overall starting 11 and in there i havent mentioned Ben Arfa, Cisse, Obertan, Guttierez (however its spelt) Best (always looks hungry) Yes it isnt 100 times better than our team but out of the ones mentioned the ones with * next to thier name would stroll into stokes current squad |
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Post by geoffscott on Feb 3, 2012 13:09:22 GMT
I'm a Stoke City supporter for life and according to the Tony Pulis disciples on here, Stoke City have no right, ambition or chance to ever compete with the top 6.
So I'll be rooting for Newcastle all the way over these last 15 games.
What Newcastle have done over the last 18 months and what they are doing now, might just give a bit of a reality check, to the 'we are Stoke and we have no right to compete against the top 6 brigade'!
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Post by simpson93 on Feb 3, 2012 13:21:25 GMT
I'm a Stoke City supporter for life and according to the Tony Pulis disciples on here, Stoke City have no right, ambition or chance to ever compete with the top 6.
So I'll be rooting for Newcastle all the way over these last 15 games.
What Newcastle have done over the last 18 months and what they are doing now, might just give a bit of a reality check, to the 'we are Stoke and we have no right to compete against the top 6 brigade'!
i hope this is a dig at me, id love stoke compete with the top 6 but thing is we need to improve to compete, all i was saying is that i believe newcastle have a stronger team, Im stoke through and through, and id back them against anyone, BUT technical side of things Newcastle are stronger but still would back stoke |
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Post by wingy11 on Feb 3, 2012 13:21:39 GMT
I think they will finish there as well, been great all season even with BA at the ACON
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Post by dadofsam on Feb 3, 2012 13:26:25 GMT
Might also make a few realise that there are managers and methods other than Pulis' that can achieve
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Feb 3, 2012 13:49:21 GMT
They pissed on us at the Brit. Pardew got it spot on and Pulis had no answer to his tactics. It could have been 5. Demba Ba well into double figures helps ,the confidence they have is knowing they are likely to get a goal every game and they have a good midfield in Cabaye,Tiote, Guthrie although i still think they need a centre back to stay where they are. All in all though its well done Alan Pardew(though he is a twat).
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Post by shep207 on Feb 3, 2012 13:51:51 GMT
Might also make a few realise that there are managers and methods other than Pulis' that can achieve Where has anyone ever questioned this? |
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