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Post by alster on May 23, 2018 10:29:51 GMT
We spent £20 million in January, who spent more than that in the bottom half? In net terms, I bet that’s £20 million more than we spend this summer The damage had been done in the Summer by selling our main attacking threat and replacing him with cheap rubbish, taking a profit in that window from transfers and going central defender crazy when we had no goalscorer with any sort of recent form.
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Post by alster on May 23, 2018 10:25:37 GMT
We spent £20 million in January, who spent more than that in the bottom half? In net terms, I bet that’s £20 million more than we spend this summer In net terms it will probably be about £50M more than we spend this Summer but some people still call that investment or a war chest
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Post by alster on May 23, 2018 10:23:23 GMT
Agree with this. In reality we should have sacked Hughes last summer but we all know this. The arrival of Rowett and the noise of a massive war chest has given me that tingling feeling again. I can’t wait to see who we sign and I can’t wait for next season either! Yes, I am not arguing Hughes did not deserve to be sacked, he absolutely did, only not at that time for that alternative. The summer before or the summer after would have been just fine for me! Agreed or at anytime inbetween with a replacement that was an improvement in the bag before they pulled the trigger.
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Post by alster on May 23, 2018 9:31:46 GMT
You just don't get it do you. They'll spend a lot less than they bring in from transfers. That's the sort of spending they like nowadays. Wait for the accounts to be published in a couple of years and see if they really spent anything, me thinks not. But that is clearly a wrong assessment of the last 10 years. The owners are £100 million down on debt provides to the club and the Bet365 sponsorship transfers more money in under the radar. The club has spent well owner £100 million more on transfers than it has brought in during the last decade. There is a difference in the club reinvesting Premier League income and the owners putting money in themselves. Something they've done a lot of if you take an 11 year period or hardly any of if you cut that period down to the last 4 years say.
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Post by alster on May 23, 2018 7:57:51 GMT
I’m just wondering at what point we’ll all start to look forward and stop looking back? Whether lessons have been learned time will tell, the proof will be in the pudding over the next 12 months or so, but to constantly keep reliving lasts seasons shitshow doesn’t really achieve anything...... Start looking forward when the squad starts taking shape, see what the football is like and what results it brings. Last season will linger in the memory for all the wrong reasons but at least it will linger unlike the season before it that was total meh.
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Post by alster on May 23, 2018 7:04:58 GMT
Fulham away is a great day out C"mon Villa Couldn't give a toss won't be going. Whoever we are more likely to beat next season I want to lose.
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Post by alster on May 23, 2018 6:57:13 GMT
Nice to have a bit of positivity around the club for a change, but can't forget the dreadful season just gone and ask the question what the hell happened? Throwing money at Rowett is all well and good but buying two forwards in Jan could well of kept us in the Premier league - why the change in attitude in spending in a lower division? All the main protagonists are still in place and its like we have all forgot about their incompetence in running this club. Clean sweep was needed but heads must roll at the top as well. You just don't get it do you. They'll spend a lot less than they bring in from transfers. That's the sort of spending they like nowadays. Wait for the accounts to be published in a couple of years and see if they really spent anything, me thinks not.
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Post by alster on May 22, 2018 16:18:35 GMT
Same I can't stand anybody. Does that include hating yourself for being a bigot? Naah I'm the only person I like.
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Post by alster on May 22, 2018 16:14:32 GMT
Has the fat lesbian gone yet. How are you when it comes to skinny gay blokes? Same I can't stand anybody.
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Post by alster on May 22, 2018 16:04:44 GMT
Has the fat lesbian gone yet.
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Post by alster on May 22, 2018 9:05:32 GMT
If he was that good Real Madrid or Barcelona would have snapped him up years ago. More chance of Paul Daniels turning MBD into a footballer. And he's dead!! Which was my point.
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Post by alster on May 22, 2018 7:27:25 GMT
How’s the ambition working out at Birmingham For every club that is taken over by foreign owners that succeed there’s one that fails and when they do its pretty catastrophic Me personally it’s not a route I would like stoke to take And West Brom and Southampton is hardly a roaring success Whereas Stoke with local owners is a roaring success.
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Post by alster on May 22, 2018 7:21:28 GMT
Majority of them have followed Rowett around, nice stable back room set up.. Phillips was a late joiner. Always thought it strange Stoke is one of the only Midlands teams Kevin Phillips never played for, perhaps it's not long before he's on the coaching staff with us. Remember Mark Sale was seriously ill for a time after he'd left Stoke & it impacted on his playing days for a time. If he can teach Mame how to finish we’ll do ok! If he was that good Real Madrid or Barcelona would have snapped him up years ago. More chance of Paul Daniels turning MBD into a footballer.
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Post by alster on May 22, 2018 7:14:22 GMT
The premiership money has now gone, the parachute payments are to keep the club running whilst it cuts it cloth according ...the academy, players wages, general staff wages etc etc need paying and that’s what parachute payments are for Not transfers I’m sure the multi billionaire owners who have contributed largely to the fuck up culminating in relegation can dig some money from somewhere to fund a squad rebuild if needs be. Just saying Sure they could, pretty certain they won't.
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Post by alster on May 21, 2018 16:13:01 GMT
yeah but 100% of those 42 wanted him to stay and be given a chance. Not sure whether its an oxymoron or just a common everyday type.
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Post by alster on May 21, 2018 5:37:38 GMT
All depends what they are given to work with. You need the best manager you can attract but he can still be handicapped by lack of funding or a CEO who can’t tie deals up for their preferred targets. 1 man can not change our fortunes on his own.
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Post by alster on May 20, 2018 18:23:07 GMT
Has anybody got confidence in our board picking the right man to get us back up? I haven't after the Lambert appointment and the way they stuck with Hughes for 18 months too long. Nope.
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Post by alster on May 20, 2018 8:15:18 GMT
I didn't particularly want Lambert but he did his best in a difficult situation. I wish him well and I think he could have done a job for us in the Championship. It will only be the right decision if we get someone better in. All those saying he should go because we can't do worse are fools - we could do a hell of a lot worse and some of the names being banded about are at best depressing and at worse terrifying. And one thing is gauranteed - the new manager will not unify the fans and the whoever out banners will be drawn up on the day of the appointment I actually agree with you for once our fans are very split on what they want. Whoever gets the job a large section of us aren’t going to be happy. Whilst it’s working we’ll all get behind it but as soon as it doesn’t we’ll revert to our personal positions on what we want to see, football fans and dreamers vs small time Stokies.
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Post by alster on May 19, 2018 13:08:48 GMT
Not when you’re managing big names it isn’t. He won't be managing big names here! Not at little old Stoke? Crawl back under your rock.
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Post by alster on May 19, 2018 12:49:24 GMT
Have you seen his record? He's consistently done excellently at lower league clubs. I'd have him in a heartbeat. He's not a big name, and that's a good thing! Not when you’re managing big names it isn’t.
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Post by alster on May 18, 2018 18:43:07 GMT
Thanks for nothing. You were shit. You might well be a nice guy but we were wank and somehow you managed to make us worse. You have been scared by football to the point you don’t have the bollocks to try to win. Do yourself a favour give it up.
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Post by alster on May 18, 2018 18:37:52 GMT
You're right, I'm sure Mourinho and Guardiola will be applying shortly. If Stoke City FC paid what they got now +50%, they would consider it, wouldn't they? I'm satisfied with Ranieri.✌️ You do realise they’re on about £15M a year basic and we have been paying about £1M. Pay peanuts get monkeys. Would you pay your manager a fraction of what Wimmer Berahino or Imbula get. Discipline problem, I wonder why?
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Post by alster on May 18, 2018 18:32:49 GMT
Generally speaking I really don’t like football managers. They spoil games of football.
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Post by alster on May 18, 2018 18:28:40 GMT
Attacking football played with the right components. Not negative defensive shite. Macari was excellent wasn’t Barca easque but always attacking always trying to win not playing for draws. Even Pulisball with guts can be exciting. Trouble is he’s got no balls. Never want to watch long ball football to a slow weak target man again in my life apart from that I’ve got a fairly open mind.
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Post by alster on May 18, 2018 18:21:04 GMT
Allardyce has done well most places he's gone. It's his style of football that saw him out the door at West Ham, Newcastle and Everton. Think we'll be less fussy tbh. I won’t.
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Post by alster on May 18, 2018 18:17:06 GMT
Allerdyce..sacked,Moyes...sacked!!! Florres...sacked!! Why must we chase failed managers? Why not,as a club, look at whos doing well with limited budget and buck the trend of appointing other clubs shit!!! The three biggest twats at Stoke are all still in a job..Cartwright Scholes and Hughes!!! Most managers get sacked at some point unless you're Guardiola. Mourihno, Ancelloti, Luis Enrique, Mancini, and Benitez have all been sacked but I wouldn't turn any of them down. Attracting away from peers and even a division below isn't always straightforward as we found with Rowett. Graham Potter, Dean Smith or someone like Danny Cowley might fit the "up and coming" profile - but would be a huge risk - particularly when we seem to have a dysfunctional bunch of incompetents upstairs by way of managerial infrastructure. You might get the next Sean Dyche - but you might also get the next Frank de Boer. Oh eh up 6 games at Crystal Palace has proved De Boer is a useless manager now. Not a bad appointment by Palace who’d been set up by Allardyce a polar opposite as they should have know and been prepared to give him time or else not made such an appointment that guaranteed radical change.
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Post by alster on May 18, 2018 14:47:53 GMT
I think some people are building castles in the air. The facts: We have a defence that is now minus Zouma and will be minus Butland, that let in 68 goals in the Prem last season, lost to lower division sides (Sheffield Utd., Bristol C., Coventry C.), and during Lambert's tenure has found it impossible to hold onto a lead. We have an attack that has found it increasingly difficult to score goals as the season has progressed and we will be losing our top scorer/creator. We will have a rump of players who are over 30 or very inexperienced, or don't give a damn. I think we will do well not to follow Sunderland, Blackburn, and Wigan to Division 1 before we start bouncing back. Is the squad we will have left any better than Norwich, or Hull? We know Sheffield Utd and Bristol City can beat us. Middlesbrough had a decent defence last season in the Prem., they just couldn't score goals, but their defence has not got them out of the Championship. I like Pieters, but he is very average, getting older and has been inconsistent, and can't centre the ball for toffee, bar the occasional fluke. I’m sure you were one of the posters telling me age didn’t matter when I was pointing out before the event that we were creating a ticking time bomb by stockpiling old players. Waddo and all that shit. You’ve changed your tune.
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Post by alster on May 18, 2018 14:41:26 GMT
Bauer off then or will Shambert play him on the wing ? A back 4 of Pieters, Shawcross, BMI, Bauer would rip the championship. Add a striker who knows how to hit the onion bag in that league and we’re laughing. You underestimate the wankness of our midfield it’s a creative desert.
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Post by alster on May 17, 2018 14:42:44 GMT
To be fair, what is the deal with ‘tapping up’ I didn’t think you could speak to players until a bid had been accepted. Is this the way around it; getting agents/technical directors to ask the players on their behalf? To be fair officially you can't but every single club does it, very little can be done to stop it. Join the real world you can stop people communicating they do it through 3rd parties and keep it as deniable as possible.
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Post by alster on May 17, 2018 11:21:19 GMT
I don’t understand all the vitriol personally. Ultimately the buck stops with the manager. Was Cartwright supposed to tell Hughes he couldn’t have Berahinio or Wimmer even though the financials worked and they were Hughes’s top targets? Imagine if they then went on to br top signings for a rival, he would have been slated on here. In that case he’s on a hiding to nothing either way. I don’t know the ins and outs of the different job roles though seemingly plenty on here do know the finer details. If the club back him and think he’s doing a good job then I’m prepared to accept that as they are likely to be more knowledgeable on the subject than me. Hmm if Wimmer was the top target for Centre Half I wonder why we had negotiations with Harry Maguire weeks before him then. Just working our way up the list from the bottom?
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