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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 31, 2009 19:17:00 GMT
Unless there is some really good reason, which none of us know about, I reckon Kitson has been treated very badly.
There is no way that Kitson should have been dropped from that bench today.
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Post by stokecity4eva on Oct 31, 2009 19:19:57 GMT
pulis proved in the week that kitson has got no chance at this club by saying about mama words to the effect of "He's got a point to prove – and I just love players with a point to prove."
which to me prooves kitson now has no chance
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Post by starkiller on Oct 31, 2009 19:23:34 GMT
Falling out with players at the expense of the teams is something I'd expect at lads n dads. It needs to be resolved professionally by those with the greater maturity taking the initiative.
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Post by waitingforwaddo on Oct 31, 2009 19:24:24 GMT
One rule for one...
Not surprised at all about this.
Kitson is our leading scorer. First Beattie walks back in (and admittedly has done well) but now Sidibe waltzes back in too with our LEADING SCORER not even on the bench.
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 31, 2009 19:27:37 GMT
He looked like a new player, the only bad game he had was the ManUre game, and he can't be blamed for that because he was partnered up front with the tumbleweed . That is a good point Serpico. |
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Post by boothenpaddock86 on Oct 31, 2009 19:28:55 GMT
its all very well making players wait for their opportunity,it kind of makes them hungry.but there is nothing to be gained by breaking a players spirit.
i agree dave has got to show something which makes it impossible to leave him out.
if we are going to leave people out because of misconduct then then why has fuller never been left out ?
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Post by march4 on Oct 31, 2009 19:29:37 GMT
Kitson doesn't come across as the easiest person in the world to get along with.
I would have had him on the bench today in place of Tuncay.
He played well at Bolton and was poor at Brum. He looked bright against Chelsea, but awful against ManUre.
It looks like he got the blame for our shocking attacking performance at Pompey.
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Post by jonnynico on Oct 31, 2009 19:36:49 GMT
just joined the puliswankstain club. and alan what the fuck you on about.
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Post by headsgoup on Oct 31, 2009 20:10:29 GMT
Kitson is wank and we all know that. Pulis only plays him to give him games. He would be sold if anyone would buy him. Really bad attitude and he's really lucky to be on a good contract at a premier league club. And you think Pulis is lucky eh? I'm sorry Alan but I don't know it. He played well this season, scored three goals and then got booted for no good reason. So that makes it OK to storm off if he isn't picked? (if true) We have 5 front men at the club and only 2 will be picked. The 2 best proven players at the club are Fuller and Beattie. Would you rather him drop Fuller or Beattie? Would you take Tuncay or Mama off the bench to make way for him or have 3 forwards on the bench? It's easy to say Pulis should have done this or that but whatever his decisions the players have to accept that he's the manager and he picks the team, and get on with it. Kitson doesn't want to play for the club anyway! |
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Post by lew86 on Oct 31, 2009 20:12:30 GMT
As much as Pulis puzzles me, this is a load of bollocks
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Post by jarhead on Oct 31, 2009 20:15:02 GMT
I have heard he is living in a hotel as his wife has gone back down south and sold their house up here so his days are numbered anyway thats why we aint seen him since after bolton.
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Post by march4 on Oct 31, 2009 20:17:21 GMT
I have heard he is living in a hotel as his wife has gone back down south and sold their house up here so his days are numbered anyway thats why we aint seen him since after bolton. Big deal, he is a professional paid vast sums of money. The guys and gals in Afghanistan have to do their jobs properly in spite of the situation there. |
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Post by Northy on Oct 31, 2009 20:19:38 GMT
He looked like a new player, the only bad game he had was the ManUre game, and he can't be blamed for that because he was partnered up front with the tumbleweed . Agree here and with the others, unlucky to get dropped for an unfit beattie, and now today  yes he was poor on Tuesday, but so were 12 others. TP has his favourites, shocking to see mama even considered for the bench so soon, shakes head at our club sometimes |
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Post by jarhead on Oct 31, 2009 20:20:28 GMT
Oh i agree and shows what a mardarse he is and his fuckin stuckup wife!!!
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Post by march4 on Oct 31, 2009 20:22:21 GMT
Oh i agree and shows what a mardarse he is and his fuckin stuckup wife!!! I thought we were agreeing - I didn't mean to give any other impression. |
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Post by skiptanbroonacari on Oct 31, 2009 20:33:47 GMT
So that makes it OK to storm off if he isn't picked? (if true) We have 5 front men at the club and only 2 will be picked. The 2 best proven players at the club are Fuller and Beattie. Would you rather him drop Fuller or Beattie? Would you take Tuncay or Mama off the bench to make way for him or have 3 forwards on the bench? It's easy to say Pulis should have done this or that but whatever his decisions the players have to accept that he's the manager and he picks the team, and get on with it. Kitson doesn't want to play for the club anyway! Beattie is not fit enough to last 90 mins, playing him means that one substitute MUST be used to replace him. Kitson has 3 goals this season, Fuller has none, which one is the proven player this season? Would I take Tuncay or Mama off the bench, what is Mama doing on the bench anyway? |
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Post by AlliG on Oct 31, 2009 22:23:53 GMT
Hmmmm. That's a tough question.  I could understand Mama being included in the match day squad, but putting him on the bench was always going to be a massive gamble. In fact it was actually unfair on Mama himself. Whether he should be in the team when he is fully fit is another question but his timing and touch today were way out, which is hardly surprising. He should have had at least a full 90 minute workout on Monday in the Reserves (and probably another as well) before being considered. I couldn't believe the bench when I heard it and I can understand why Kitson would be brassed off as well. p.s. If you haven't guessed, I would have had Kitson on the bench in place of Mama. |
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Post by eriksson74 on Oct 31, 2009 22:25:04 GMT
yet another Pulis fuck up then? Kits is a quality intelligent footballer with an eye for goal and Mama is... well Mama is contracted as a footballer
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Post by henry on Oct 31, 2009 22:29:23 GMT
also heard the rumour that he fucked off at arf one. don't blame the lad at all.
shit on big style by braindead pulis. a big talent, in form.
MINDBENDING
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Post by knype on Oct 31, 2009 22:32:34 GMT
also heard the rumour that he fucked off at arf one. don't blame the lad at all. shit on big style by braindead pulis. a big talent, in form. MINDBENDING Top post Henry...Problem with him is the he can play football BUT cannot flick the ball into no mans land all day! |
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Post by henry on Oct 31, 2009 22:39:55 GMT
also heard the rumour that he fucked off at arf one. don't blame the lad at all. shit on big style by braindead pulis. a big talent, in form. MINDBENDING Top post Henry...Problem with him is the he can play football BUT cannot flick the ball into no mans land all day! feel really sorry for him mate. does everything asked of him, worked his way back in, looked good football wise, scored goals and whats the net result ? dropped for an arf arsed beattie, told to fuck about in the reserves, and end up being behind mama in the pecking order. second half today has turned me into a grade 1 phw, a gutless manager that has and never will have the balls to go on and kill game. |
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Post by Joules on Oct 31, 2009 22:46:22 GMT
I hope this isnt true... To be honest, I cant see Kitson storming off at 2pm before the game, its not very professional... Just not like Kitson..
Agree also, that he should of been on the bench instead of Mama.
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Post by stokecity1986 on Oct 31, 2009 22:49:35 GMT
I hope this isnt true... To be honest, I cant see Kitson storming off at 2pm before the game, its not very professional... Just not like Kitson..
Agree also, that he should of been on the bench instead of Mama.
sorry but its very true he did
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Post by serpico on Oct 31, 2009 22:52:36 GMT
I think whilst Kitson was in form and scoring he should have been kept in the team, and Beattie should have been kept on the bench until Kitson either stopped scoring or his form dipped, you don't generally drop a player who is bang in form and scoring, it's bound to cause trouble, having said that I imagine Beattie is probably a bit of a mardarse as well, so it's a bit of a balancing act, but generally you don't drop a player who is in form and scoring, which Kitson was, he was looking like the player we had paid 5 million for, his hold up play was brilliant and he was looking pretty classy .
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Post by actongatestokie on Oct 31, 2009 23:02:07 GMT
I was stood outside the away end when Kitson stormed off. He sat in his 4x4 for a while on his phone then drove off.
To be frank, he had a face like a smacked arse. He did'nt look happy at all. I actually feel sorry for him that he was dropped as I don't think he deserved it.
That said, I believe the 11 that pull on the shirt, plus the subs deserve the support of the rest of the squad without seeing them run off back home in a huff having been dropped.
I can take it from players who have been bred into the system from a young age and know no other way of life, but not a player who has started off life stacking shelves and knows what its really all about.
Whether the rights are right or the wrongs are wrong, I expect more from Kitson.
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Post by Beardy200 on Oct 31, 2009 23:02:17 GMT
If he doesn't like being dropped then he needs to give Pulis a selection headache by playing well and at least trying in the games he does play. I was under the impression he WAS doing that very well and got dropped like a stone as soon as Beattie could stand up. Beattie's got the goals (none of them i couldn't see Kitson scoring) but his all-round game this season compared to how Kitson was playing doesn't even come close to me. If this has happened then it's hard to defend him now but i can understand how pissed off he must have been when he'd been in such good form. |
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 1, 2009 0:14:57 GMT
Shocking management that allows personal differences to get in the way of what's best for the club, rather than resolving/diffusing them. Some muppets on here who know fook all about management No-one knows what was said (though plenty are prepared to guess) but if a player steps out of line then there can only be one winner - otherwise the manager is fooked The player has to be disciplined even if it is bad for the team on the day - in this case the effect was marginal. We dropped two points down to bad defending |
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Post by henry on Nov 1, 2009 0:17:43 GMT
Shocking management that allows personal differences to get in the way of what's best for the club, rather than resolving/diffusing them. Some muppets on here who know fook all about management No-one knows what was said (though plenty are prepared to guess) but if a player steps out of line then there can only be one winner - otherwise the manager is fooked The player has to be disciplined even if it is bad for the team on the day - in this case the effect was marginal. We dropped two points down to bad defending so you think it was right to drop kitson ? |
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 1, 2009 0:25:44 GMT
Do you know why Kitson was dropped?
I don't - but if it was for bad discipline - as is being suggested - then he has to be dropped
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Post by march4 on Nov 1, 2009 0:29:11 GMT
I hope this isnt true... To be honest, I cant see Kitson storming off at 2pm before the game, its not very professional... Just not like Kitson.. Agree also, that he should of been on the bench instead of Mama. The chap who always sits behind me at the Brit said that he saw Kits storm off with a water bottle taking the brunt of his anger. |
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