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Post by garyhackett on Aug 4, 2009 20:17:34 GMT
well i was implying this weekend but we can compromise and go for the start of the season if you like?
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Post by monkeycat on Aug 4, 2009 20:18:50 GMT
well i was implying this weekend but we can compromise and go for the start of the season if you like? Ok.....you are sounding less confident I think
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Post by viiistokieviii on Aug 4, 2009 20:19:45 GMT
Hackett have you heard anything else on jizzman mate?
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Post by garyhackett on Aug 4, 2009 20:31:04 GMT
well i was implying this weekend but we can compromise and go for the start of the season if you like? Ok.....you are sounding less confident I think I think i am more confident we will sign harewood or nugent ;D
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Post by monkeycat on Aug 4, 2009 20:33:30 GMT
Ok.....you are sounding less confident I think I think i am more confident we will sign harewood or nugent ;D Double or quits ;D
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Post by stokecityscott on Aug 4, 2009 21:18:19 GMT
What did Rudge say about him on the radio ?
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Post by Mr Notherchance on Aug 5, 2009 7:08:05 GMT
Acres on Radio Stoke at 8am.
"BBC Radio Stoke understands that fee of 6 million agreed with West Ham but wages could still prove a problem...."
Nothing we don't already know really but perhaps it's inching closer.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Aug 5, 2009 7:15:08 GMT
My god, how long is this dragging out now?!!?, surely we are missing out on other targets due to the length of this!?
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Post by stone6 on Aug 5, 2009 7:17:19 GMT
Acres on Radio Stoke at 8am. "BBC Radio Stoke understands that fee of 6 million agreed with West Ham but wages could still prove a problem...." Nothing we don't already know really but perhaps it's inching closer. Interesting, this could mean that it's just down to Ashton if a fee is agreed. If we're reportedly offering £40K p/w+ large bonuses, lets face it, it'll be totally down to how much he wants to play football for Stoke. With his injury record he'll not get a move elswhere for more money! Phone rings....... Hi Dean, Phil Brown Hull City. How would you like to sign a 5 year contract with us on £80K p/w + bonuses, don't worry about a medical, we'll give you the 'Bullard' once over!! ;D
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Post by barndoorbanjo on Aug 5, 2009 7:38:05 GMT
On the 7.30am bulletin Acres said that the 6 million had been agreed with West Ham which could rise to 10 million. The problem is with Ashtons bonus payments.
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 5, 2009 7:39:59 GMT
On the 7.30am bulletin Acres said that the 6 million had been agreed with West Ham which could rise to 10 million. The problem is with Ashtons bonus payments. For god sake Stoke, just get it sorted!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2009 7:41:11 GMT
Come on chaps, give TP and PC time to sort this one out properly.
They’ve only had around 6 weeks so far.
Cut them a bit of slack.
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 5, 2009 7:43:17 GMT
Come on chaps, give TP and PC time to sort this one out properly. They’ve only had around 6 weeks so far. Cut them a bit of slack. ;D Wonder how long they have been prevaricating over the bonus payments.
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Post by drwhom on Aug 5, 2009 7:49:06 GMT
The word prevaricating isn't used enough on this messageboard.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 5, 2009 7:50:10 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/england/realmedia/radiostoke/rssport.ram2 minutes 21 secs in..... Ties in with Monkey and Homzy floating this initial £5.75m fee, rising to a possible £10m+ on appearances and England games. Also ties in with the peole who say Ashton's wage demands are the stumbling block.
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Post by SCFC92 on Aug 5, 2009 7:54:33 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/england/realmedia/radiostoke/rssport.ram2 minutes 21 secs in..... Ties in with Monkey and Homzy floating this initial £5.75m fee, rising to a possible £10m+ on appearances and England games. Also ties in with the peole who say Ashton's wage demands are the stumbling block. Right get it done today! Lets have it sorted by end of today, medical (announced) tomorrow signing announced none other than Friday. ;D
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 5, 2009 8:10:38 GMT
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Post by ashbournepotter on Aug 5, 2009 8:16:05 GMT
he'd be a good signing if fit but if he's only in it for the cash, we should steer clear
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Post by steviewonder on Aug 5, 2009 8:16:06 GMT
MC can you give me a brief general update on whats happened? just come back from holiday and true to my word, havn't even looked at an english paper while away! Gracias
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Post by M on Aug 5, 2009 8:20:15 GMT
MC can you give me a brief general update on whats happened? just come back from holiday and true to my word, havn't even looked at an english paper while away! Gracias The confidence remains that he will sign between the ITK's. Publicly both TP & Rudge have come out talking about him. Today Radio Stoke have said fee has been agreed, but wages are still not sorted.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 5, 2009 8:23:39 GMT
Doesn't sound like the fee breakthrough is a recent development.
The ITKers say we actually agreed a fee on Saturday July 25th.
If you can't subsequently reach a compromise deal on wages in 10 days of banging heads together, are you going to?
When do you wash your hands of it and start chucking deadlines about?
If you've drawn a line in the sand about how far you're going to go, I think 10 days is enough for Ashton to give us a definitive yes or no.
If it's 'no', let's move on.
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Post by steviewonder on Aug 5, 2009 8:25:47 GMT
Well i suppose thats something positive that TP has actually come out and spoken about him To be honest i hadn't expected him to sign just yet, but i do expect him to sign.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 5, 2009 8:43:38 GMT
I'm surprised Ashton hasn't bitten on our offer yet. There's probably lots we don't know and it's obviously very complicated.
But the fact West Ham have accepted the bid tells him what he needs to know.
And add in the fact they're trawling Europe for another striker, and that isn't exactly music to his ears either. Cole was seemingly already ahead of him in Zola's mind, given the way he plays - and the new striker's only going to push him out further.
I can understand him being reluctant to come here for less guaranteed salary than he gets at West Ham, but a couple of different posters have seemed to indicate the shortfall would be made up if we stayed up.
And, regardless, he'll still surely be on a basic of around £1.5m and if he plays a part in us staying up maybe nearly another £1m on to of that. He hasn't exactly got to worry where his next meal's coming from, has he?
Given that he's being pushed towards the exit door at West Ham, you'd think he'd see the writing on the wall and grab at the chance of joining a club close to home who actually wanted him
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Post by henry on Aug 5, 2009 8:46:29 GMT
Doesn't sound like the fee breakthrough is a recent development. The ITKers say we actually agreed a fee on Saturday July 25th. If you can't subsequently reach a compromise deal on wages in 10 days of banging heads together, are you going to? When do you wash your hands of it and start chucking deadlines about? If you've drawn a line in the sand about how far you're going to go, I think 10 days is enough for Ashton to give us a definitive yes or no. If it's 'no', let's move on. totally agree, i'm at the point now where i could'nt give a flying fuck wether he sign's or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2009 8:46:57 GMT
As FM says, this whole deal is getting bloody tedious and tiresome now.
Enough time has passed for us to carry out all the medical checks required, so we know where we stand with that now. You’d assume, and from what we are told, a fee is agreed with the club, so it’s all down to agreeing terms with Ashton now.
There must come a point where we say, “this is what’s on the table Dean, you’ve got 48 hours to decide or you can shove the bloody contract up your fucking arse or we politely revoke the offer and move on”.
We need to pull our fingers out and get it resolved one way or the other.
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Post by The Shed End on Aug 5, 2009 8:47:54 GMT
if we do sign him anybody know when he will be fit to play for us
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Post by Gob Bluth on Aug 5, 2009 8:48:12 GMT
Agreed FM but if you remember the post GlynBurton a bit ago saying that it was WHU changing their mind about the fee and its structure, I'll let you do the honours with the link. I do believe that a number of the posters on here are in the know but he was someone that listed a lot of tangible information that seemed to make sense, perhaps this will make Ashton take talks a little more seriously and we can move to a resolution sooner rather than latter irrelevant of what the conclusion finally is.
This deal has dragged on for ages and never at any point has Zola or Clarke U-turned on their decision to let him leave, they clearly don't want him there.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 5, 2009 8:51:45 GMT
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Post by ashbournepotter on Aug 5, 2009 8:54:32 GMT
right, stoke, fuck him off and move on, for pity's sake!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2009 8:54:51 GMT
Pull the plug.
Fuck it off and move on.
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