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Post by daveray26 nealy 27 on Apr 5, 2009 14:04:04 GMT
if we stay up??? im saying defo kitson to reading, maybe sidibe with his injurys, i know hes an important play to pulis but he just dont score enough, either tongue or soares, defo salif diao he just carnt cut it any more in the prem, olfinjana?? i rate this guy but even though tp paid around 3 million for him then thats alot of money for a player who only gets a look in if theres injurys, id loan dicko out and sell griffin, sell either sonko or cort.......your thoughts please
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Post by Ghostface on Apr 5, 2009 14:04:55 GMT
Pulis
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Post by daveray26 nealy 27 on Apr 5, 2009 14:06:08 GMT
i know you dont mean that...
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Post by dozintheseventees on Apr 5, 2009 14:07:01 GMT
You mischevious tinker you!
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Post by stokie25 on Apr 5, 2009 14:07:14 GMT
pericard ....to make absolutely certain he never steps out for our first team again.
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Post by DentySCFC on Apr 5, 2009 14:08:43 GMT
Griffin, Olofinjana, Cort, Soares, Cresswell, Kitson, Pericard, Matteo, possibly Diao, Davies and Sonko can go as long as we have replacements and if we stay up.
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Post by daveray26 nealy 27 on Apr 5, 2009 14:08:56 GMT
pericard is out of contract in the summer any way
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Post by diaofan on Apr 5, 2009 14:10:30 GMT
Pericard
Griffin
Sonko
Olofinjana
Cresswell
Diao
Kitson
(all with adequete replacements of course)
I'd keep Tonge, Kelly, Davies and Cort as back-up and Soares and Dicko as ones for the future
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Post by daveray26 nealy 27 on Apr 5, 2009 14:11:04 GMT
oh shit forgot about creswell, yeah i want him gone, dont think much of davies either
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Post by dozintheseventees on Apr 5, 2009 14:12:14 GMT
Couldn't believe it took 8 replies to see Cresswell's name.
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Post by stokie25 on Apr 5, 2009 14:12:36 GMT
pericard is out of contract in the summer any way i know, but i'm always fearful that he'll get another one  |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Apr 5, 2009 14:13:09 GMT
OOps (make that 5) Still amazed!
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Post by stokiemama14 on Apr 5, 2009 14:13:38 GMT
Pericard
Griffin
Olofinjana
Cresswell
Diao
Kitson
i want to keep sonko as i think he is alright, cort is good, and then soares tongue and davies i think will be like shawcross and get better as they get older so ones for the future!!
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Post by stockportpotter on Apr 5, 2009 14:21:00 GMT
Tbh, if we do stay up, I don't think you will see wholesale changes. TP will want to build a squad that is competitive and by selling 6 or 7 players, he aint going to be able to bring in 6 or 7 that are better. The market just doesn't work that way. I can see him bringing in 3 or 4 players, selling a couple, and sending some on loan. We shall see.
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Post by stokiemama14 on Apr 5, 2009 14:23:16 GMT
think though if we get mid table position at the end of the season, imagine the players that will want to come in, i think if we stay up we will have a very positive market this summer, tp goes away to europe nearly every weekend anyway scouting, as long as someone ticks the list of the qualities our players already have e.g passion,determination,love for the club we will do well  |
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Post by stockportpotter on Apr 5, 2009 14:25:58 GMT
I think you have a point the stokiemann but, and it sounds so bloody conservative, IF we do stay up then next season is very much a Do the same again season, in that we have to think about staying up again and starting to stabalise. My worry is that as fans, people will start expecting us to qualify for Europe etc, and win league cups.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 5, 2009 14:27:12 GMT
Pericard Griffin Olofinjana Cresswell Diao Kitson i want to keep sonko as i think he is alright, cort is good, and then soares tongue and davies i think will be like shawcross and get better as they get older so ones for the future!! I think that's pretty much smack on the money there chap, not sure that I'd keep Tonge but everything else I agree with completely. The problem with Cresswell and Griff is that they're both on pretty hefty contracts with some time to run on them, so I'm not sure how easy it's going to be to move these two on. |
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Post by Sparkiee on Apr 5, 2009 14:36:01 GMT
oh shit forgot about creswell, yeah i want him gone, dont think much of davies either Didn't Davies play twice for us? :\ Or was it once? Got to give him more chance than that.. |
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Post by MilanStokie on Apr 5, 2009 15:51:43 GMT
I wouldn't even get rid of Diao. It's not his fault he was out for quite a lengthy period and thrown in with obvious lack of match fitness. On his day he can be quite useful and we can't just throw players away because they have the odd bad game. We still need a squad you know.
Cresswell - Lets face it, TP won't sell.
Griffin - Very good chance but we need a replacement right back.
Pericard - I think it's safe to say he will be released. Probably go Millwall.
Tonge - Can't use the age excuse here. He has enough experience and must go.
Kitson - Must go.
Of the others mentioned, I would keep:
Sonko
Cort
I would send one of them on loan if we do sign another centre back.
I would actually keep Olofinjana, think it's unfair to judge him on half a season.
Can't keep loaning out Dicko I'm afraid. Wilkinson has stepped in and and proven what he can add to the team. Dicko needs the same chance and if he isn't good enough then either sell (replacement needed) or as backup only. Higgy is no left back.
Soares - We can make something out of this player I am sure.
Davies - Give him a chance.
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Post by 16quidachuck on Apr 5, 2009 15:53:44 GMT
cresswell pericard griffin defo out and then matybes cort sonko kitson tonge olofinjana.
davies and soares will come good i think
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Post by ti on Apr 5, 2009 15:53:55 GMT
i hope vale leave the football league come the end of the season ;D
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Post by PMac on Apr 5, 2009 15:55:44 GMT
Kitson for sure, the mardy git - who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo!
Salif Diao too I guess.
Cresswell, while we could still get some money for him from the Championship.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 5, 2009 16:04:54 GMT
I wouldn't even get rid of Diao. It's not his fault he was out for quite a lengthy period and thrown in with obvious lack of match fitness. On his day he can be quite useful and we can't just throw players away because they have the odd bad game. We still need a squad you know. Cresswell - Lets face it, TP won't sell. Griffin - Very good chance but we need a replacement right back. Pericard - I think it's safe to say he will be released. Probably go Millwall. Tonge - Can't use the age excuse here. He has enough experience and must go. Kitson - Must go. Of the others mentioned, I would keep: Sonko Cort I would send one of them on loan if we do sign another centre back. I would actually keep Olofinjana, think it's unfair to judge him on half a season. Can't keep loaning out Dicko I'm afraid. Wilkinson has stepped in and and proven what he can add to the team. Dicko needs the same chance and if he isn't good enough then either sell (replacement needed) or as backup only. Higgy is no left back. Soares - We can make something out of this player I am sure. Davies - Give him a chance. 'I would actually keep Olofinjana, think it's unfair to judge him on half a season. ... Kitson - Must go.' So people can't judge Seyi on on half a season but you can judge Kitson on, erm ... half a season? 'I wouldn't even get rid of Diao. It's not his fault he was out for quite a lengthy period and thrown in with obvious lack of match fitness. On his day he can be quite useful ...' I really hope that next season we have players available in midfield that are better than 'quite useful'. 'We still need a squad you know.' I'm pretty confident that the people who have contributed to this thread would actually intend on REPLACING the players they have suggested should be shown the door. |
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Post by march4 on Apr 5, 2009 16:13:10 GMT
Camara, Kelly, Kitson, Oli, Soares, Tonge, Sonko - in that order.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Apr 5, 2009 16:16:41 GMT
Kitson
Cresswell - Didn't he sign a 2 year deal at the start of the 07/08 season?
Pericard
Griffin
Diao
Soares
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Post by MilanStokie on Apr 5, 2009 16:40:03 GMT
Well Paul. Diao is useful and we aren't a team that can afford to have luxury backups.
I aren't judging Kitson's performances. He is a bad egg and that will only upset the dressing room. The sooner we get rid the better.
And yes we need a squad. We can't go selling up to 10 players and hope we replace them. We need a big squad and we should only sell players if we get a player in before. I would be happy to see Diao and Olofinjana go if we sign 2 quality centre midfielders but we just won't have luxury.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 5, 2009 17:06:09 GMT
I would be happy to see Diao and Olofinjana go if we sign 2 quality centre midfielders but we just won't have luxury. I don't see any reason at all why we couldn't sign two players in the summer that are better than Salif and Seyi. |
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Apr 5, 2009 17:14:06 GMT
I don't WANT any players to leave but, realistically, to keep our wage budget at a sensible and sustainable level, we have to move some players on and try to get in better quality replacements.
I'm gonna trust the club to do it - they've given me no reason this season to suggest they're not up to the job.
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Post by StokieSC on Apr 5, 2009 17:17:20 GMT
Pericard
Cresswell
Kitson
Griffin
Tonge
I think we've not seen the best from Soares, and would be very reluctant to let him go.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 5, 2009 17:21:30 GMT
Salif and Pericard are both out of contract and I thought Cressy was as well. I would expect all three to leave. I reckon Cort will probably leave as well he seems further down the pecking order than Sonko. The problem with Griff will be the time left on his contract (2 more years?) - hopefully that can be sorted and he will leave.
We'll keep Mama, I think but as we won't see him until near Christmas, I expect we'll get two or three new strikers to replace him, Kitson (if he leaves) and Cressy. I'm not sure what will happen with Davies, Soares and Tonge - I expect their future may depend upon whether we can get better players to replace them cheaply. I think we'll keep Pugh and Sonko and possibly Amdy and Olli. I hope Kelly gets enough time on the pitch to give TP the chance to make a decision but I doubt if Camara will.
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