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Post by stokecity4eva on Mar 24, 2009 22:53:40 GMT
can someone tell me what lee richardson said???
was ian wrong involved in this at all as i know he h8s us it wouldnt surprise me if he was the one who gave them the idea for the show
it would be awesome if we could invite the whole station down for one of the remaining home games and paraded them around the pitch during half time so we can show ian wrong and mick qrim exactly what we think of them
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 24, 2009 22:54:01 GMT
What's going to happen to our international team if everbody starts playing like Stoke?? What a load of codshit! As if the bottom half of the premiership is ever going to provide more than a couple of the England team. Money talks, and these players from smaller clubs get bought by the big boys. If they were concerned about quality of the England team, a bigger issue is the number of foreign players in the league. Want to see everybody play the beautiful game, change transfer rules to a draft system (as per American Football) and impose a salary cap (as per Rugby League). Then bring it on! Those two knob-heads showed nothing other than snobbery and a total lack of understanding about what it takes to survive in the Premier league. This is the key to it, they just want cannon-fodder for the top 4, and cant stand the idea that there is a team who has the audacity to stand up and fight, and battle and play the game on their terms. Richardson more or less that they play the same but then said they try to incorparate more football,bullshit really but was sticking up for us. Waste of 2 hours of my life listening to that bollox!! My one and only experience of Talk Sport, never to be repeated. bb Just wait till the 6-5 rule comes in and players like Shawcross and Wheater who are English and playing for unfashional clubs but good English players will soon become hot property. |
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Post by march4 on Mar 24, 2009 22:57:33 GMT
If our international team played like Stoke we would win the World Cup. When was the last time England played with passion and put a team under pressure in their penalty area.
Jack Charlton and Ireland reached the quarter finals playing our way with much poorer players than those available to England.
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Post by trebor63 on Mar 24, 2009 23:03:25 GMT
Ray Houghton whinging about long ball percentage football!
Feck me the Rep of Ireland when he played in Jack charltons team make Stoke look like Brazil (the actual Brazil not WBA)
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 24, 2009 23:16:22 GMT
I was fucking incensed listening to Smudges airtime.
That fucking presenter was talking over everyone and that dwarf faced cunt'Houghton started whailing like a fucking stuck pigme when Smudge mentioned the stats.
The whole tone of their debate is that football should be about fancy fucking dans.
I hate that mighty fucking Quim.
When Stoke stay up I feel I need to do summat. Trouble is Im not sure what I can get away with.
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Mar 24, 2009 23:18:18 GMT
Older Stoke fans who saw the Matthews , Easthams and Hudsons will perhaps watch Stoke with a tear in their eye . Well I saw all these and the only tears I shed are ones of pride in the spirit, determination of the team and the magnificent support. Even Waddo's teams did not always play scintillating football , the older fans will remember Waddo's wall. You are right Grandad,I've made this point on here before. Waddo is renowned for attacking football (Hudson,Greenhoff,Eastham,Dobing et al from 1970 on) but before that we had years of consolidation based on rock hard defenders -Setters,Clamp,Eddie Stuart followed by Smith,Bloor and Pejic. I would love to have seen Nancy Ronaldo against that lot - They make todays defenders look like choirboys |
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Post by trebor63 on Mar 24, 2009 23:21:49 GMT
LOL ;D
Hearing (reading!) other peoples anger at their numptiness is very theraputic! Having said that I think I'll work double hard on the treadmill tomorrow thinking of ways to ram it down that fat retarded Quimmys throat!
When we play the soft 'long suffering' Geordie tarts the noise levels will reach feckin epidemic proportions
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Post by plug on Mar 25, 2009 1:47:56 GMT
Anyone know of a torrent to the 'show'?
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 25, 2009 6:16:08 GMT
The 3 best things about that shower today were
1. How well our fans came across - did not disgrace ourselves at all and put in some excellent debate (some say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit but in my eyes its the highest form of intelligence)
2. The support from other fans (including Spurs) that we are doing the right thing to stay up
3. Houghton's rant about stats - for me this was the first sign that he felt a ****. At the end he'd mellowed considerably towards our cause.
All in all, it backfired big time on them and they were shown for the tits they are.
Houghton must need to be liked which tells me he has issues, possibly a cock thing, that or his mother beat him.
Either way its quite clear that we love to be hated which points to the fact that we are all quite happy with our mothers and our cocks!!
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Post by stokebill on Mar 25, 2009 7:10:38 GMT
I succumbed. I sent an email. The shame.  Dear Ray, Glossing over the fact that Premiership players didn't want to come to Stoke last summer as we were universally seen as the next Derby, the didn't have the balls to join us. Or that we haven't been able to field our strongest 11 for the entire season due to injury (Liam Lawrence out for 5 months after tripping over his dog an example). Or that our squad wasn't fully assembled until after the season kicked off, yet Pulis has moulded them into a committed and cohesive unit, while Benitez couldn't even fit Robbie Keane into his team. One thing that few seem to understand is something you mentioned this evening. If we must be tagged then we are certainly not another Wimbledon, we haven't committed any fouls so poor as Kevin Nolan and Steven Taylor's recent efforts for Newcastle, nor have we had our manager sent off repeatedly for foul and abusive language, like ex-Wimbledon manager Joe Kinnear. Efforts befitting a pub team, Mick Quinn. We're not dirty, cynical intimidators. If we're anyone then we are Jack Charlton's Ireland. Last night, Mr Houghton, you were bleating about how long it would be before Stoke fans tired of our approach. Honestly, can you tell us how long it was before Ireland fans became bored of watching a honest and committed team consistently give bloody noses to sides supposedly more talented? Will our football improve? Well, it might. Pulis came within a whisker of signing Cisse, Pennant and Ledley last summer, amongst others. Good footballers. Perhaps we'll have a better chance next summer, unless players believe the ill-informed hype spouted about us on Talk Sport. When Pulis took over we were struggling at the bottom of the Championship, he build gradually from the back, made us ugly and difficult to beat, and gradually added flair through Fuller, Lawrence, Hendrie etc. There are signs with Etherington and Beattie that we will gradually move to the next level again. The improvement of our football is a discussion for 2 years time, I suggest. While I'm here another minor point. Martin Smith from The Oatcake tried, in vain, to make a point last night about the fawning over Hull. If Hull have Geovanni so therefore they cannot possibly play the long ball game, can you explain how a player of your 'diminutive stature' was a regular in that Ireland side? Hull play exactly the same way as Stoke now (only without the points), try to watch a game objectively without prejudice. Stoke should adapt your Ireland World Cup song as our own, its a perfect fit. "Put 'em Under Pressure" Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole We've qualified for the World Cup Go and compete We're prepared, a new goal We'll do our best We'll Put 'em Under Pressure, defense, defense The game is about
Being effective
Being aggressive
Winning the ball
Getting it on with the play
We'll Put 'em Under Pressure Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole We're all part of jackie's army We're all off to win the league And we really shake them up When we win the World Cup Cause Ireland's are the greatest football team Put 'em Under Pressure It's not going to be easy for us
But it's not going to be easy for them either
Watch, watch, watch the people
Watch the people, watch the people, watch the people, defense, defense
We inflict our game on the people
Put 'em Under Pressure, defense, defense, defense, defense You gotta give, you gotta give, you gotta give to win Goal! Put 'em Under Pressure Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole We're all part of Jackie's army We're all off to win the league And we really shake them up When we win the World Cup Cause Ireland's are the greatest football team |
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Post by ersaurebot 1, 000, 000 views on Mar 25, 2009 9:17:29 GMT
Great email SB. but. Did you just lose it a bit at the end!!
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Post by stokebill on Mar 25, 2009 9:33:43 GMT
Maybe I did. ;D To be honest I made the Ireland connection from the start, so became increasingly frustrated by Houghton's hypocrisy. Did a quick google search on Jack Charlton's Ireland and saw that Ray Houghton has stood proudly belting out lyrics that perfectly illustrate Stoke's approach this season. I bet he enjoyed every second of his Ireland experience, as did their fans. So he can do one if he thinks we should apologise for doing the same. But yeah, I lost it a bit at the end.  |
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Mar 25, 2009 9:42:35 GMT
The greatest hypocrisy of all was that Houghton spouted all of the nonsense about the fact that he wouldn't pay to watch Stoke's brand of football, yet he was an integral part of Jack Charlton's Republic of Ireland side that played even more negatively than we ever do.
I do remember that Ireland fans at the time didn't give a monkey's chuff about what anybody thought about them and had a great party at every game. We're no different.
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Post by eddyclamp on Mar 25, 2009 10:15:48 GMT
Every presenter is the same on Talk Sport,once you blow their argument out of the water you get turned off,as Smudge found out last night.Well thank you Martin Smith......
Don`t rise to it ,keep your powder dry until we are safe,give it `em big time then forget about them.Listen to something else.
The more you react, the more advertising they sell ,the more wankers like Durham earn.
Eddy says fuck `em
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Post by wembley4372 on Mar 25, 2009 10:22:03 GMT
Just don't listen. They will all go out of business. They need you, not the other way round.
They must laugh their heads off at all of you getting so wound up.
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Post by andylgr on Mar 25, 2009 12:52:11 GMT
The trouble is that a lot of these tossers commenting on Stokes style of play are not seeing the full games, they are seing the edited highlights on MOTD, which will only show goal mouth incidents and any bad incidents outside the box, fouls, red cards etc.
They arent going to show west broms defence stringing 30 odd passes to one another because its fucking boring and they dont have time to show it.
Therefore anyone judging us on only the MOTD is going to see the ball going into the box, either by throw in, corner, free kick or whaever. They dont see the good football we play with Whelan, Lawro, Fuller or Etherington. They dont show Abdouaye beating a man in his own box and then laying off a great pass - because it doesnt make great highlights. Highlights should show the main incidents of the games.
In a nutshell most of the media / presenters commenting on Stoke are too lazy to watch a full game and are judging us on 5 mins on MOTD every week.
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Post by lordb on Mar 25, 2009 13:27:48 GMT
I listened to about half the show on & off - I missed bits as I had better things to do like having a poo & staring blankly at the wall -
possibly the most bizarre experienc ever of being a Stoke fan.
Gary Kelly imho is one of the good guys overall but being a Spurs fan he is perhaps obliged to
not understand why Stoke fans are happy for the side to play industrial football after a quarter of a century of nothingness (after all if its not top flight your nothing....).
Houghton is one of the better pundits too but he over empahisized the long throw thing to the point where he sounded like a fool.
if TP gets to hear of this show he will be loving it as it will further galvanise the supporters to remain loud & proud right through to the end of the season.
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Post by stan on Mar 25, 2009 13:48:03 GMT
"Would you be happy to see Stoke play poor football and finish fourth to bottom every year?"
I suppose not, but how many teams in the Premier League play high-quality, aesthetically-pleasing football on a regular basis and win? The answer is, not many.
Personally, I think we have developed as a team over the season and would continue to do so, if we were to stay up this time. Ethers, Whelan, Delap, Lawrence, Fuller, Beattie -hardly a "big boot" front six, is it?
We all know Pulis likes a long ball, conservative tactics and all the rest of it, but I truly believe that he's a pragmatist. I've got little doubt that he'd continue to bring in better players technically and players with pace because, eventually, he knows that's what we'd need to "push on". We'll never play like Arsenal, but, in the long run, if all went according to plan, I imagine we'd be like Everton.
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Post by OldStokie on Mar 25, 2009 13:48:48 GMT
I didn't listen to it but judging from the comments, it seems to have been a positive things. Backs to the wall and all that stuff. Everyone hates us. Good. I can assure them that they can't possibly hate me as much as I hate their smugness. I shall now twirl my ancient rattle even harder at the next home game. OS. |
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Post by tazi on Mar 25, 2009 13:52:01 GMT
I didn't listen to it but judging from the comments, it seems to have been a positive things. Backs to the wall and all that stuff. Everyone hates us. Good. I can assure them that they can't possibly hate me as much as I hate their smugness. I shall now twirl my ancient rattle even harder at the next home game. OS. Jeeeeeeeeeez, mind the backs of your coats fellow oaties!  |
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Post by DodgyDino on Mar 25, 2009 14:13:25 GMT
Can anyone tell me where i can listen to it again...I only listened till 7.30 then had to go work and miss out on all the enjoyment.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 25, 2009 14:21:22 GMT
I succumbed. I sent an email. The shame. Dear Ray, Glossing over the fact that Premiership players didn't want to come to Stoke last summer as we were universally seen as the next Derby, the didn't have the balls to join us. Or that we haven't been able to field our strongest 11 for the entire season due to injury (Liam Lawrence out for 5 months after tripping over his dog an example). Or that our squad wasn't fully assembled until after the season kicked off, yet Pulis has moulded them into a committed and cohesive unit, while Benitez couldn't even fit Robbie Keane into his team. One thing that few seem to understand is something you mentioned this evening. If we must be tagged then we are certainly not another Wimbledon, we haven't committed any fouls so poor as Kevin Nolan and Steven Taylor's recent efforts for Newcastle, nor have we had our manager sent off repeatedly for foul and abusive language, like ex-Wimbledon manager Joe Kinnear. Efforts befitting a pub team, Mick Quinn. We're not dirty, cynical intimidators. If we're anyone then we are Jack Charlton's Ireland. Last night, Mr Houghton, you were bleating about how long it would be before Stoke fans tired of our approach. Honestly, can you tell us how long it was before Ireland fans became bored of watching a honest and committed team consistently give bloody noses to sides supposedly more talented? Will our football improve? Well, it might. Pulis came within a whisker of signing Cisse, Pennant and Ledley last summer, amongst others. Good footballers. Perhaps we'll have a better chance next summer, unless players believe the ill-informed hype spouted about us on Talk Sport. When Pulis took over we were struggling at the bottom of the Championship, he build gradually from the back, made us ugly and difficult to beat, and gradually added flair through Fuller, Lawrence, Hendrie etc. There are signs with Etherington and Beattie that we will gradually move to the next level again. The improvement of our football is a discussion for 2 years time, I suggest. While I'm here another minor point. Martin Smith from The Oatcake tried, in vain, to make a point last night about the fawning over Hull. If Hull have Geovanni so therefore they cannot possibly play the long ball game, can you explain how a player of your 'diminutive stature' was a regular in that Ireland side? Hull play exactly the same way as Stoke now (only without the points), try to watch a game objectively without prejudice. Stoke should adapt your Ireland World Cup song as our own, its a perfect fit. "Put 'em Under Pressure" Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole We've qualified for the World Cup Go and compete We're prepared, a new goal We'll do our best We'll Put 'em Under Pressure, defense, defense The game is about
Being effective
Being aggressive
Winning the ball
Getting it on with the play
We'll Put 'em Under Pressure Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole We're all part of jackie's army We're all off to win the league And we really shake them up When we win the World Cup Cause Ireland's are the greatest football team Put 'em Under Pressure It's not going to be easy for us
But it's not going to be easy for them either
Watch, watch, watch the people
Watch the people, watch the people, watch the people, defense, defense
We inflict our game on the people
Put 'em Under Pressure, defense, defense, defense, defense You gotta give, you gotta give, you gotta give to win Goal! Put 'em Under Pressure Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole Ole, Ole Ole Ole, Ole, Ole We're all part of Jackie's army We're all off to win the league And we really shake them up When we win the World Cup Cause Ireland's are the greatest football team That's a great email Bill, well worth sending, I was hoping somebody would make those points to him. Well done. |
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