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Post by evans1863 on Feb 21, 2009 18:41:45 GMT
4
Wrong team selection, everybody can see that Faye and Diao dont work, and against one of the poorest sides in the league we created absolutley fuck all. The fact that we managed to get back into the game was nothing to do with his tactical wisdom, in fact Camera was stripping off as Beattie scored. Defending so deep and inviting pressure at the death cost us two valuable points.
Oh and he brought Cresswell on.
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Post by march4 on Feb 21, 2009 18:46:06 GMT
5, mama and beattie?? faye and Diao?? For me it had to be beattie and camara, whaln and diao (or faye) not both. A side sent out to not lose instead of win ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/MK1XRTh9jLIKdOoyx512.gif) Sorry mate, but I disagree fundamentally with you. Camara isn't the answer.. Just because he is new doesn't mean he is any good. Ask the fans at his previous clubs. He runs around a lot, usually at pace. However, he struggles to challenge for the ball or track back. His dribbling and passing are in need of improvement and his finishing has become more erratic as he gets older. I have said all season that Whelan is out of his depth in the division. I thought that after our last few games, this opinion was shared by the majority on here. The mistake in the transfer window was not acquiring a better Whelan type of player. At the moment Diao and Amdy are our best central midfield partnership. Their job is to break up play and they did it well today. The problem is their release ball. Pugh and Lawrence did not keep their positional discipline today and so they struggled to find a Stoke player without passing backwards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2009 18:48:39 GMT
1 and he lucky to get that
1 Sidibe and Beattie nevr going to work and theyvve had two weesk to sort that out 2 lawrence made recent decsions to leave him out for Creswell look stupid 3 first half of Second half we never held the ball in their half , their goal ws coming but as ever he waited and waited then got camara to warm up too late 1-0 down 4 level camara still warming up go for it but no weve got a draw 5 2-1 Camara sit down bring on creswell whose never scored and invite Portsmouth to shoot in for 10 minutes instead of holding their line with the danger of camara running behind them to finish the match 6 Surpise surpise we lose a late goal to go with home point tossed away agianst Hull and Fulham 7 He will never never never change which means he will be a one seaon premier league manager and one that left kitsonĀ£5 million & camara on the bench and put Creswell on who we now discover cant defend either , at home to portsmouth i await the verdict in May with enormous trepidation because he cant say he didnt have the backing
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Post by march4 on Feb 21, 2009 18:52:31 GMT
4 Wrong team selection, everybody can see that Faye and Diao dont work, and against one of the poorest sides in the league we created absolutley fuck all. The fact that we managed to get back into the game was nothing to do with his tactical wisdom, in fact Camera was stripping off as Beattie scored. Defending so deep and inviting pressure at the death cost us two valuable points. Oh and he brought Cresswell on. We were behind the dugout and TP was getting increasingly furious with Tonge. I think it might have been Tonge who was coming off. He was told to play on the right and kept drifting to the left. We cannot allow that sort of indiscipline on the pitch. TP did the same with Sweeney a few years ago when he wouldn't play where he was told after coming on as a sub. Interesting that their second goal came on the right with Tonge all at sea and Cresswell not picking up the man TP was screaming at him to mark. Camara is the answer to nothing as you will realise if we have the misfortune of seeing much of him play this season.
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Post by PickSCFC on Feb 21, 2009 18:54:26 GMT
lets all blame cresswell, get a grip ffs
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Post by eriksson74 on Feb 21, 2009 18:54:38 GMT
A big 0
No attempt to win the game, playing two holding midfielders agains a lack of any pompey players playing in Stokes half. No Pace and dropping Whealen the only player who can keep the ball and playing Mama who can only win the ball in the air which is pointless when everyone else is 40 yards behind him.
Complete crap from the manager and another 3 points lost because of him
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Post by Davef on Feb 21, 2009 18:55:37 GMT
Camara is the answer to nothing as you will realise if we have the misfortune of seeing much of him play this season. So why is he at the club then?
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Post by potters11 on Feb 21, 2009 18:57:35 GMT
6.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Feb 21, 2009 19:01:35 GMT
5. Good and bad points for me today. Starting line up not too bad, would probably not go with Salif and Amdy together though. Thought Mama looked gone after an hour, and would of bought on either Ginge or Camara. Did the right thing in taking Lawrence off before he got himself sent off.
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 21, 2009 19:05:12 GMT
Can't honestly go higher than 6, my God are we missing Ethers.
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Post by mik06 on Feb 21, 2009 20:13:07 GMT
3 played right in to pompeys hands.Pace was needed to upset Cambell and Distan we opted for the usual try power tactic. Same old Tone shit scared of the oposition.Still he got the point he was after.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2009 20:29:29 GMT
5 Simply poor tactics again from TP and Salif with Amdy in the middle just did not work at all.
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Post by MrMagic on Feb 21, 2009 20:43:22 GMT
4
First half I though we did OK, not brilliant, but nowhere near our worst performance. We moved the ball around well for 25 minutes before we reverted to lumping it at Mama at every opportunity.
Not enough real attacks though.
Second half was less promising. Gave the ball away too much. Tonge looked good to me (ignore march4 he has an axe to grind with this particular player).
Pulis' capitulation over the Camara substitution was shameful, and in my opinion was instrumental in our loss of 2 points. Had we had someone on to run at Distan and Sol they'd have been scared to death.
The idea of 2 defensive middle men is to have full-backs and wide men who bomb forward and attack. Under Pulis, no-one "bombs". LL came close, Pugh plays as another full-back.
Cresswell is utter garbage
Not good enough.
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Post by apb1979 on Feb 21, 2009 21:15:51 GMT
5
Right starting lineup apart from Whelan should of played instead of Faye.
Made the wrong substitions at the wrong times Camera should of been on from about 60 mins
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2009 21:44:28 GMT
4
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Post by timmymallett on Feb 21, 2009 21:46:14 GMT
2. Utter Wank
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Post by s8to on Feb 21, 2009 21:48:56 GMT
4
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Post by ohcityweloveyou on Feb 21, 2009 22:03:05 GMT
4, too many reasons why to say its say low
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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 21, 2009 22:05:20 GMT
5
Ok starting XI, but: - Included Mama, who hasn't played for two (?) months - Why not Whelan at midfield - Why Cresswell as a sub and not Camara (or anyone else)?
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Feb 21, 2009 22:32:20 GMT
5 - lack lusture performance for 75 minutes, we should of put their goal under seige today, they were shit.
we should of played whelan in the center to put a foot on the ball and spread the ball, i just cant understand playing two holding midfeild players at home ( especially in a game against a fellow bottom 5 team and we desperatley need to win).
we have very little creativity, how does TP expect to consistently win football matches when we have very little in the way of any service???? If we dont start to be more adventurous we are fucked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2009 0:10:08 GMT
2/10
giving lawrence a chance was the right decision
but the balance of the team was wrong
the forward combination was wrong
we were too defensive
when the game started to turn against us he did nothing
we had some luck, got back into the game, then got a second
then...he made the wrong substitution
he just keeps making the same mistakes over and over- he cost us 2 points today
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Post by kavinoz on Feb 22, 2009 3:54:21 GMT
7 The points deducted are for not acquiring more midfield quality in the transfer window. The plan was to keep it tight in the middle, but allow the wide men to bomb forwards. Lawrence and Tonge didn't play where they were told to and TP was forever reminding them of their responsibilities. At one point it looked like Tonge was going to be substituted for his complete lack of team discipline. Pugh played well at full-back (alongside Higgy). I was happy with the team selected before the start, but we looked frightened to death of losing. 7 Spot on! And we did see a great deal more forward movement from BOTH the full backs! I thought Pugh did well to support Higgy with their two "speedy" right-sided players. (From the stats, if I remember correctly, Pompey attacked down their right 2 or 3 times more than they did down their left!)
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Post by Northy on Feb 22, 2009 7:17:11 GMT
5, mama and beattie?? faye and Diao?? For me it had to be beattie and camara, whaln and diao (or faye) not both. A side sent out to not lose instead of win ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/MK1XRTh9jLIKdOoyx512.gif) Sorry mate, but I disagree fundamentally with you. Camara isn't the answer.. Just because he is new doesn't mean he is any good. Ask the fans at his previous clubs. He runs around a lot, usually at pace. However, he struggles to challenge for the ball or track back. His dribbling and passing are in need of improvement and his finishing has become more erratic as he gets older. I have said all season that Whelan is out of his depth in the division. I thought that after our last few games, this opinion was shared by the majority on here. The mistake in the transfer window was not acquiring a better Whelan type of player. At the moment Diao and Amdy are our best central midfield partnership. Their job is to break up play and they did it well today. The problem is their release ball. Pugh and Lawrence did not keep their positional discipline today and so they struggled to find a Stoke player without passing backwards. we'll agree to diagree then, but whose job is it to find the right players to fill spot that you say we missed out on ??? and we mean realistic targets here, and whose job is it to pick players in midfield that can pass a ball, one of the crucial areas of play??? So who signed Camara and then won't play him but plays Cresswell again, Camara's pace would have got Pompey worried and perhaps had the centre halves sitting deeper instead of inside our half? If not Whelan, and I've never said anything against him, why not Tongu in the middle, intead of a left footer in a right midfield position
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 22, 2009 12:24:13 GMT
4. I'm afraid his negative approach to games are going to cost us big time. There was nothing wrong with playing Mama. He did his job well. And Beattie was superb given that he spent most of the afternoon playing a lone role. Pulis's insistance of playing two holding midfielders in a must win home game was typical of what he is...the most negative manager ever to have managed Stoke City. He had the opportunity to play a forward running midfielder. He could have put Lawrence in there and started with Tongue out wide. Then choose from Diao or Faye as the holding midfielder. I would have given him less marks but his defence was right and he allowed the two fullbacks to get forward whenever they could. That proved to be right because our second goal came from Higgy's cross. Substituting Cresswell for Mama was another big error. Once again, due to his maniacal negativity, he ceded ground to Pompey by withdrawing deep to hold on to a slender lead. The number of times this has proved costly during his time at stoke and he doesn't learn from it and change his ways would suggest he has a screw loose. How many times does it have to happen before he gets it into his thick skull that giving the opposition control of the game in the final 10 minutes is costing us big style. I reckon it will cost us our position in this league.
OS.
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Post by cousindupree on Feb 22, 2009 12:37:45 GMT
4...at least he started Lawrence...but like many others I can't understand 2 holding midfield players at home to a struggling team.......the possession stat yesterday was 36/64 which is shocking and is quite telling in terms of how we fail to keep the ball even against a very average team. It was again a defensive mindset that delivered a point.Its been clear this season that with some exception we are not great at defending yet its always the managers preferred option...if we continue with this in the remaining home games and our awful away form we will be gone.
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