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Post by walton corner on Feb 1, 2009 11:56:00 GMT
as someone has already said "shit post" fuller is the only forward with pace and has never been told to chase back by pulis -no need to, save energy and his little bursts behind defences etc... are critical in our chances of survival get behind him AND NOT SLAG HIM OFF he and beattie will tear blunderland apart
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 1, 2009 12:14:53 GMT
One of the poorest posts on this board yet. If it wasn' t for Fuller we wouldn't even be in a relegation battle, we would have been dead and buried by now, but let's forget that!.........as a result of one 45 minutes where he is below his best and what do you know!............we should f**k him off!!! that tells all i need to know about some Stoke so called supporters. Memory spans of probably not more than 45 minutes
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Feb 1, 2009 12:16:55 GMT
Why would Pulis sell Fuller really? Yes he was poor yesterday but he hasn't played for 4 weeks, and just because we have signed a striker who has had a fantastic start doesn't mean we're looking to sell our other strikers. Hopefully we'll see an improvement from Fuller next week and we'll have a pretty decent strike force.
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Post by luke2u on Feb 1, 2009 12:25:49 GMT
He has a future at the club, but he has to improve his attitude and play for the team. He can't go on on his own and not use his team mates. Quite a few times he he has other players in great positions, but in stead of passing he tries something on his own. It usually ends up losing the ball, or he finally tries to pass, but then the chance other player is long gone.
TP, what about taking Ric to the side and teach him some team play. We could accept a lot more from Ric if he tried and made some good passes now and then.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 12:31:24 GMT
One of those threads with a title Im quite frankly, aghast at
And yesterday, having seen Fuller and Beattie 'live' I could actually see a nice combination emerging.
Ones a runner who recieves and turns with the ball -the other more a target man and a finisher
They are both quite different you see and, effetive in their own distinct ways - its only a pity Fuller had to be sacrificed for the team
and this thread is pretty much completel nonsense I reckon (being polite)
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Post by LDE76 on Feb 1, 2009 12:39:12 GMT
Christ, at times this board cooks up conspiracy theories so convoluted, they wouldn't look out of place in an Oliver Stone-Kevin Costner collaboration.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 15:44:36 GMT
32 goals in 100 games for the club - yeah you are right lets fuck him off right now Yeah because what he has done is more important than what he is doing. I don't want him out, but on the form that he was on yesterday, he shouldn't even be on the subs bench!!!! yeah you're right. cresswell looked much more effective when he came on. pulis should get rid now FFS some people
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 1, 2009 15:48:19 GMT
I refer the Honourable Gentlemen to the answer I gave on one of the other three million threads of a similar title.
Bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 15:51:07 GMT
Stop it mate, stop it. NO-ONE of any ability is leaving Stoke this window...NO-ONE. Why would Pulis sell a player who is without doubt one of only two players we have who can dribble past / beat a player 1on1?! With the league so tight why would we even think of strengthening another team by selling to them either?! I hope admin removes this thread as it's DAFT!
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Post by liamscfc on Feb 1, 2009 15:53:53 GMT
Fuller one of the best players we have got. Him and beatie going make a great partnership. People saying its the end for him need to get a grip.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 1, 2009 15:59:03 GMT
Sometimes I really fucking despair, have people really got such short memories?
Fuller did at stupid, stupid thing at West Ham but if the players have moved on (and it appears to me they have) then why should we keep going on about it?
Yesterday (as at Spurs) he showed on the couple of occasions he got the ball to his feet why he should play - he runs at and commits defenders.
Now we didn't have a lot of ball in their half during the first period and Ric also picked up an injury which required stitches. Long term the partnership of Fuller and Beattie excites me, they are both goal threats and in theory should compliment each other well. Beattie links the play well and Ric works the channels. It should be an ideal combination.
People have been moaning that we should be more attacking so surely it makes sense to have our most attack minded player featuring for us?
Ric really pissed me off when I went to West Ham but that was a month ago, he's our player, he's still the mercurial genius that I want to see play and he's still our best outlet due to his blistering pace.
I think theres a few of the people on this thread who have backed themselves into a corner now if Ric starts to feature and play well, lets not hang the lad out to dry, he's still got plenty to offer Stoke City.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 16:03:51 GMT
Well said Jamo and everyone who has expressed the same (Valid) opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 16:06:36 GMT
Sometimes I really fucking despair, have people really got such short memories? Fuller did at stupid, stupid thing at West Ham but if the players have moved on (and it appears to me they have) then why should we keep going on about it? Yesterday (as at Spurs) he showed on the couple of occasions he got the ball to his feet why he should play - he runs at and commits defenders. Now we didn't have a lot of ball in their half during the first period and Ric also picked up an injury which required stitches. Long term the partnership of Fuller and Beattie excites me, they are both goal threats and in theory should compliment each other well. Beattie links the play well and Ric works the channels. It should be an ideal combination. People have been moaning that we should be more attacking so surely it makes sense to have our most attack minded player featuring for us? Ric really pissed me off when I went to West Ham but that was a month ago, he's our player, he's still the mercurial genius that I want to see play and he's still our best outlet due to his blistering pace. I think theres a few of the people on this thread who have backed themselves into a corner now if Ric starts to feature and play well, lets not hang the lad out to dry, he's still got plenty to offer Stoke City. yeah, what he said
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Post by stone6 on Feb 1, 2009 20:06:23 GMT
I started this thread because it's my opinion which as far as i'm concerned i'm really fucking entitled to as i've not missed a league game this season, Fuller has pissed me off to the extent where i've fallen out of love with him playing for Stoke. IMO i want players who are prepared to 'die for the cause' wearing the Stoke shirt, Fuller ain't ever going to do that for me. Sorry if people think it's a shit or pointless thread but it's my opinion and that is what this board is here for so we can voice opinions and discuss with other fans. I love Stoke as much as anyone but i dislike Fuller and don't think he's right for the club anymore. Do i give a shit if anyone disagrees??? FUCK NO!!!!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 1, 2009 20:23:10 GMT
I started this thread because it's my opinion which as far as i'm concerned i'm really fucking entitled to as i've not missed a league game this season, Fuller has pissed me off to the extent where i've fallen out of love with him playing for Stoke. IMO i want players who are prepared to 'die for the cause' wearing the Stoke shirt, Fuller ain't ever going to do that for me. Sorry if people think it's a shit or pointless thread but it's my opinion and that is what this board is here for so we can voice opinions and discuss with other fans. I love Stoke as much as anyone but i dislike Fuller and don't think he's right for the club anymore. Do i give a shit if anyone disagrees??? FUCK NO!!!! I don't think anyone has said you're not entitled to an opinion mate. Just because the majority think it's not a good idea (unless a suitable replacement is signed) doesn't mean you have to take your ball home. We all like players who we percieve would die for the club but we have plenty who play like that, it is a rare thing indeed when those sort of players also play with the flair and creativity of Ric. Clearly you are passionate about the club but many can't see the benefit of getting rid of our most gifted player. He has only just got back from his ban and apparently isn't 100% fit anyway. Is it not worth keeping him to see if he can reclaim his best form? I'm not convinced that selling him is a risk worth taking. I'll trust TP's judgement and hope we go out and get someone who is even better at doing what Ric does and then I would understand him going. I honestly don't think though that we have any other potential partners for Beattie in our squad at the minute.
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Post by stone6 on Feb 1, 2009 20:36:44 GMT
I started this thread because it's my opinion which as far as i'm concerned i'm really fucking entitled to as i've not missed a league game this season, Fuller has pissed me off to the extent where i've fallen out of love with him playing for Stoke. IMO i want players who are prepared to 'die for the cause' wearing the Stoke shirt, Fuller ain't ever going to do that for me. Sorry if people think it's a shit or pointless thread but it's my opinion and that is what this board is here for so we can voice opinions and discuss with other fans. I love Stoke as much as anyone but i dislike Fuller and don't think he's right for the club anymore. Do i give a shit if anyone disagrees??? FUCK NO!!!! I don't think anyone has said you're not entitled to an opinion mate. Just because the majority think it's not a good idea (unless a suitable replacement is signed) doesn't mean you have to take your ball home. We all like players who we percieve would die for the club but we have plenty who play like that, it is a rare thing indeed when those sort of players also play with the flair and creativity of Ric. Clearly you are passionate about the club but many can't see the benefit of getting rid of our most gifted player. He has only just got back from his ban and apparently isn't 100% fit anyway. Is it not worth keeping him to see if he can reclaim his best form? I'm not convinced that selling him is a risk worth taking. I'll trust TP's judgement and hope we go out and get someone who is even better at doing what Ric does and then I would understand him going. I honestly don't think though that we have any other potential partners for Beattie in our squad at the minute. Respectful and honest response to that Jamo. I do agree with you if we got rid of Fuller we'd need a replacement of similar quality. I think i'd fall in love with him playing for Stoke again if he actually came out and ran his socks off like everyone else yesterday, even if its not his natural game. Speaking to a mate of mine today who i play football with who's Jamaican he just said and i quote 'look man he's Jamaican accept it or get rid he wont change'
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Post by stokebill on Feb 1, 2009 20:51:22 GMT
Here we go again.
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 1, 2009 21:04:38 GMT
Its only a short time ago (Newcastle away)when I said "No Fuller , No Hope". The signings of Matty and JB have changed that, as have the return of Liam and Kitson(if he is ever to be played with a winger he will be an asset, but that is a different thread), but to think that a few poor performances should mean the end for the only striker we have who can scare the opposition with pace and the ball in front of him is quite frankly mental.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 1, 2009 21:12:54 GMT
I don't think anyone has said you're not entitled to an opinion mate. Just because the majority think it's not a good idea (unless a suitable replacement is signed) doesn't mean you have to take your ball home. We all like players who we perceive would die for the club but we have plenty who play like that, it is a rare thing indeed when those sort of players also play with the flair and creativity of Ric. Clearly you are passionate about the club but many can't see the benefit of getting rid of our most gifted player. He has only just got back from his ban and apparently isn't 100% fit anyway. Is it not worth keeping him to see if he can reclaim his best form? I'm not convinced that selling him is a risk worth taking. I'll trust TP's judgement and hope we go out and get someone who is even better at doing what Ric does and then I would understand him going. I honestly don't think though that we have any other potential partners for Beattie in our squad at the minute. Respectful and honest response to that Jamo. I do agree with you if we got rid of Fuller we'd need a replacement of similar quality. I think i'd fall in love with him playing for Stoke again if he actually came out and ran his socks off like everyone else yesterday, even if its not his natural game. Speaking to a mate of mine today who i play football with who's Jamaican he just said and i quote 'look man he's Jamaican accept it or get rid he wont change' No worries mate, what he did was always going to lead to polarised opinions. I actually think that he does work harder than many give him credit for but in his own way. Ric is an explosive sprinter and does his work in short sharp blasts like a 100m runner. You can't maintain 90 minutes of running when you've done those gut busting sprints so I think he does have to have a bit of time to recover as opposed to the (if you like) long distance runners we have, who don't have Ric's pace, but keep going for 90 minutes. It's all about blend and we need a striker with pace and early on yesterday he had a ball played down the left in which he took 6 or 7 yards out of his marker and beat him to the ball, that's a priceless commodity.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Feb 1, 2009 22:13:56 GMT
Ricardo is without doubt the most gifted player we have had in many a long year If he could play at his full pace for 90 minutes then he wouldn't be playing for Stoke Everyone is entitled to their opinion but imho we should do all we can to keep him - he has a talent which is in very short supply Not bothered about the responses? I'm afraid your own response gives the game away
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