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Post by pattayapotter on Jan 28, 2009 22:55:11 GMT
We need to get out the blocks on Satdee and get at them straight away, lets get a goal in the first half for a change! i would start with with Kitson and Beattie up front using Fuller has the 'impact' player. I just have this dreadful feeling Cresser will start on Satdee Poor run of results coincided with the Mama injury does anyone know what progress he's making when will he be back as i thought it was a 3 week lay off ???
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Post by luke45 on Jan 28, 2009 22:58:15 GMT
I think it'll be Fuller and Beattie up-front on Saturday, hopefully!
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Post by pattayapotter on Jan 28, 2009 23:00:28 GMT
I'd like to see Kitson with Beattie upfront using Fuller has the impact player, but i just some how cannot see it ???
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Post by garyhackett on Jan 28, 2009 23:13:16 GMT
i cant see Cresswell starting on Sat it will be Beattie and Kitson or Beattie and Fuller
I think we may have seen the last start from 'cressie' now.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 28, 2009 23:16:03 GMT
I'm 99% sure it'll be Beattie and Fuller.
I think Cresswell will figure at some stage, but I'd be surprised if Kitson did (unless it's a desperation last 5-10 minute thing) It's looking like his Stoke career is all over bar the shouting.
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Post by feed the beat and he wil score on Jan 28, 2009 23:16:04 GMT
but if he does start lets get behind the lad everyone knows and probably himself knows he aint good enough we dont want boos aimed at him
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Post by barndoorbanjo on Jan 28, 2009 23:17:28 GMT
No, I reckon TP will go with Beattie & Kitson with Fuller on the bench although I'd go with Beattie & Fuller.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jan 28, 2009 23:19:33 GMT
He best fucking not do..
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Post by PMac on Jan 28, 2009 23:20:06 GMT
Just posted the same request.
However - "IF" Pulis starts with Cresswell and we go in half time losing - it will show that stubbornness plays a more important part of his managerial life than results.
A shocking thought but can anyone justify why he would do this or what reasons he'd have after we've all seen the disastrous and inept displays from Cressie???
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Post by garyhackett on Jan 28, 2009 23:20:39 GMT
I have a sneaky feeling he will go for Beattie and Kitson too, i think Fuller will be used as his super sub which he intended to do when he bought kitson
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Post by miffmister on Jan 28, 2009 23:26:00 GMT
Would like to see how Kitson and Beattie do with some decent ball in the box from Ethers and Lenny, but I fear Creswell and Faye will start. Hope not though. WE NEED 3 points really this Satdee. Who ever starts will get my full vocal support. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONN STOKE!!!
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Post by luke45 on Jan 28, 2009 23:26:06 GMT
I have a sneaky feeling he will go for Beattie and Kitson too, i think Fuller will be used as his super sub which he intended to do when he bought kitson For me Fuller has to start, he is one of the best players in the side, and we can't afford to have him sat on the bench, we don't have that luxury.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 28, 2009 23:26:42 GMT
I have a sneaky feeling he will go for Beattie and Kitson too, i think Fuller will be used as his super sub which he intended to do when he bought kitson Gary, do you really think Kitson has a cat in hell's chance of starting? Maybe I'm reading the tea leaves wrong, but I think I'm more likely to win the lottery? He's looking pretty close to persona non grata at the moment, and I think it's inconceivable that he isn't No.4 in the Pulis pecking order at the moment (home or away) - and I fear that will be down to No.5 should a new striker come in, and possibly No.6 when Mama gets fit?
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Post by trend....... on Jan 28, 2009 23:28:58 GMT
He best fucking not do.. exactly what i was going to say when i saw the title ;D and i think we need beattie and fuller on the pitch at all possible times. none of the use fuller as an 'impact' sub bollocks.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 28, 2009 23:29:11 GMT
He surely cannot comtemplate playing Cresswell again this season. He has started 9 games, of these we have lost 7 and drawn 2 in those games he has had ZERO shots or headers on target He has not had any assists either!!! we have won 4 of the 12 games in which Fuller has started.
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Post by Carrot on Jan 28, 2009 23:34:39 GMT
Personally, I'd go with Kitson and Beattie, with Fuller coming on as an impact player at around 60 mins as it might give Kitson to play how he did against Liverpool and hopefully get him off the mark. And, if he doesn't deliver then sub him for Fuller who we know will make an impact when he comes on. As much as I admire Cresswell for his work ethic and the fact that he seems to work his arse off regardless of the criticism which he recieves, he just isn't good enough and even if he doesn't start upfront, that's not an invitation for him to play on the wing!! We need to get at them from the off and stop conceding goals within the first 10-30 mins, with no way back like against Spurs. Therefore, Etherington and Delap on the flanks with Lawrence coming on later as I don't think he's 100% match fit yet.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jan 29, 2009 0:10:20 GMT
Of course he'll start with Cresswell and if he can convince Gray to come, he'll play them two up front, enabling him to leave Beattie on the bench too.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 29, 2009 0:15:40 GMT
Probably
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Post by MrBigJobby on Jan 29, 2009 0:19:13 GMT
Impact Player FFS what is that supposed to mean, In my day you play your best players in their correct position and hope the training and tactics that you work on each week as a professional footballer will enable the team to gain results. If not then either the players are not good enough or the coaching isnt good enough or a combination of both.
Impact Player FFS
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Post by Carrot on Jan 29, 2009 0:33:58 GMT
Impact Player FFS what is that supposed to mean, In my day you play your best players in their correct position and hope the training and tactics that you work on each week as a professional footballer will enable the team to gain results. If not then either the players are not good enough or the coaching isnt good enough or a combination of both. Impact Player FFS When I was saying that Fuller could be used as an impact sub, I'm not claiming that Kitson is better than Fuller by any means as Fuller's scoring record this season is plainly better than Kitson's. It's purely for tactical reasons. It was proved at Newcastle and when Fuller came on, he looked fantastic due to his diverse way of playing in contrast to Cresswell. I just think that Kitson would relish his chance and play as well as he did against Liverpool but hopefully with Beattie alongside, he could pinch a goal. Then, we could bring Fuller on for Kitson or beattie around 60mins if he ain't doing much then it'll give Man City's recently dodgy defence something to think about as he's a much different player than Kitson and Beattie. It was only a suggestion, don't take it personal lol
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Post by sage on Jan 29, 2009 0:37:54 GMT
If Cresswell starts on Saturday I will despair.
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Post by MrBigJobby on Jan 29, 2009 0:41:32 GMT
Rolfy my boy not taking it personally, it one of those you found phrases "Impact Sub" that drives me nuts, I just always think you play you best players.end of and Fuller id certainly that
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Post by Carrot on Jan 29, 2009 1:00:03 GMT
Rolfy my boy not taking it personally, it one of those you found phrases "Impact Sub" that drives me nuts, I just always think you play you best players.end of and Fuller id certainly that Fair play BigJob, obviously I do see your point as I am well aware that Fuller offers us so much upfront. I just think that the main reason for all this talk about Fuller being a so-called "impact sub" is mainly down to people trying to think of another alternative as let's face it, we haven't been on the best form of late and don't look like putting an end to this crap run of form. And...with Fuller coming on as a sub, you're virtually guaranteed a good performance against tired legs and something different whereas kitson would not make the same impact by coming on as a sub. Anyway, i think we both agree that Cresswell shouldn't get a look in anyways!! lol.
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Post by parttimelurker on Jan 29, 2009 1:11:50 GMT
Fuller is good for about 20 - 30 mins, if it's not going his way he sulks and does fuck all, he does look a better player coming off the bench. I think it pisses him off, fires him up and tiring defences find him harder to cope with.
I don't want to see Cresswell again unless we're running the clock down, his headless chickenry is useful for that.
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Post by trend....... on Jan 29, 2009 1:14:58 GMT
Fuller is good for about 20 - 30 mins, if it's not going his way he sulks and does fuck all, he does look a better player coming off the bench. I think it pisses him off, fires him up and tiring defences find him harder to cope with. I don't want to see Cresswell again unless we're running the clock down, his headless chickenry is useful for that. thats bollocks. we need him on the pitch at all times!!
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Post by parttimelurker on Jan 29, 2009 1:24:40 GMT
Fuller is good for about 20 - 30 mins, if it's not going his way he sulks and does fuck all, he does look a better player coming off the bench. I think it pisses him off, fires him up and tiring defences find him harder to cope with. I don't want to see Cresswell again unless we're running the clock down, his headless chickenry is useful for that. thats bollocks. we need him on the pitch at all times!! What, so he can mince round with a face like a smacked arse for 70 mins when it's not going his way?
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Post by trend....... on Jan 29, 2009 1:37:06 GMT
what if it does go his way? and he has a few chances at the start of the match? might aswel take that risk because he is one our best players and much more likely to score than fucking cresswelll. so why having him sitting on there bench where he is guaranteed to be doing fuck all when he can be on the pitch ready for a chance to come.
and tbh i dont think he 'minces around with a face like a smacked arse for 70 mins when it's not going his way'. he always comes alive when he gets the ball and hardly ever gives it away, unlike, again, fucking cresswell.
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Post by PMac on Jan 29, 2009 1:49:54 GMT
cresswell - 20k a week - lets not forget that eh? would you run around and work hard for that pay? no brainer really. ::)ffs
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Post by MrBigJobby on Jan 29, 2009 5:29:35 GMT
If Fuller is only good for 20-30 mins then he should be fucked off or only be paid a third of his wages FFS
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jan 29, 2009 6:47:04 GMT
Start with Kitson & Beattie.
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