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Post by sage on Jan 18, 2009 23:44:20 GMT
There's been a lot of recent talk about 'fire sales', FA judgements, administration, points deductions and various other calamities at Wet Sham, leaving me to naively hope that perhaps the relegation battle might be made slightly easier for the rest of us. However instead of falling down the table faster than you can press f5, they seem to be climbing depressingly quickly. Even if they were docked 10 points tonight for going into admin they'd only be 2 points behind us...so anyway, does anyone with a good grasp of the situation think there is any possibility they could
a) go into administration or
b) be punished further over the Tevez saga?
I'm no great fan of Wet Sham, and them encountering problems could only ease our own difficulties, so without wanting to wish ill on anyone, i'm intrigued by the possibility...
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Post by patobanton on Jan 18, 2009 23:46:25 GMT
not sure whats posible here but they are clocking up the points now so you would think they will be safe unless somethink happens. anyone know whats likely to happen?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 18, 2009 23:49:04 GMT
Easy answer - if it means West Ham going down at the expense of a Stoke City, Hull City then fuck all will happen.
FA & Premier League are spineless gimps who constantly dodge the controversial decisions.
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Post by sage on Jan 19, 2009 0:00:49 GMT
^^ This sadly seems the most likely result, though if they were to be forced into admin for financial reasons, that carries an automatic points penalty - i'm sure that must be the same in the Prem as in the lower leagues, barring barefaced hypocrisy.
Though thanks to fecking Man City throwing stupid money at them for average players, administration is looking far less likely...
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Post by evans1863 on Jan 19, 2009 0:23:04 GMT
Is administration a 9 point penalty in the Prem, as opposed to football league penalty of 10?
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Post by powchirper on Jan 19, 2009 0:30:35 GMT
FA-Brooking etc will see that Wet Spam remain bullet-proof, A bit like **** u, there are two rule books.
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Post by andystokey on Jan 19, 2009 0:32:45 GMT
No one at the FA would have the balls to retrospectively do anything after all this time. Not something that could have such a single damaging effect on one club of such high standing.
The knock on effect of managers/players/fans any tom dick and HARRY suing each other for loss of earnings would keep the circus going for years.
Absolutely nothing will happen.
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Post by daverichards on Jan 19, 2009 7:37:09 GMT
Doubt anything will happen through the FA over the tevez incident, however. Their owner has about 6 weeks to sell them, as he is facing a bankruptcy case in Iceland, if he fails to sell them in this time they will be considered part of his assets and effectivley go into administartion, and thus under Prem rules will face a 9 point deduction, and their TV money can be withheld to pay their footballing creditors www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/02/west-ham-gudmundsson |
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Post by fentonstokie on Jan 19, 2009 8:54:49 GMT
I'm sure i've seen somewhere there is a cut off for having points detucted for going into admin? 1st of jan? After that they get knocked of the following season. Not 100% though.
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Post by dexter97 on Jan 19, 2009 8:59:06 GMT
Given their current form, and the situation at the bottom of the table at the moment, they might be tempted to gamble on a nine-point penalty.
I don't think anything will come of the Tevez inquiry.
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Post by stokecity4eva on Jan 19, 2009 18:02:39 GMT
deadline for admin is march or something like that was brought in after leeds used it their advantage at the end of the 06 season.
if its true about brooking suposedly having a massive falling out with the fa then maybe the fa will want to make an example out of him and west ham.
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Post by starkiller on Jan 19, 2009 18:11:03 GMT
Lucky bastards recently. Including against us.
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 19, 2009 21:02:01 GMT
Need 3 teams to finish below us - by whatever means, so fingers crossed it all goes tits up for em. Forgot bout Trevor Brooking Chirper, can he pull strings that big??
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Post by starkiller on Jan 19, 2009 21:22:24 GMT
Need 3 teams to finish below us - by whatever means, so fingers crossed it all goes tits up for em. Forgot bout Trevor Brooking Chirper, can he pull strings that big?? Depends how far in the Masons he's got. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 19, 2009 21:36:07 GMT
Trev has annoyed everyone at the FA in the last couple of years. They don't like him anymore.
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Post by sammychung on Jan 19, 2009 21:54:24 GMT
Selling Bellamy for £14m will go some way toward keeping them out of admin!
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Post by eddy_under_fire'sviews on Jan 19, 2009 22:33:07 GMT
surely their debts have gotta be serious money? like, more money than they can make by selling players??
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Post by dexter97 on Jan 19, 2009 22:50:56 GMT
surely their debts have gotta be serious money? like, more money than they can make by selling players?? £50m, if you believe the paper-talk. |
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Post by bogus on Jan 19, 2009 22:55:16 GMT
My understanding is that it's far more than the West Ham debt that is worrying the owner. The holding company is apparently in serious trouble and the total debts far exceed those at West Ham alone. If the holding company goes under, West Ham go under with them.
But I may be wrong?
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Post by stokecity4eva on Jan 19, 2009 22:56:51 GMT
that 14 mill is nothing to their chairman hes in serious shite hundreds of millions of debt i heard
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Post by crimesy on Jan 19, 2009 23:28:04 GMT
wouldn't you just love a -15 point reduction.  |
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Post by dexter97 on Jan 20, 2009 8:48:09 GMT
Unfortunately, administration only costs 9 points in the PL.
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Jan 20, 2009 8:53:05 GMT
Now the last I heard it was the fact there was no definate points deduction for going into administration in the PL. The rule would be set when the firts team went into administration and each penalty would be given out dependant on the circumstances
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Post by dexter97 on Jan 20, 2009 8:55:35 GMT
That would be a sensible approach. Can't see that being the case at all!  |
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Post by daverichards on Jan 20, 2009 8:59:08 GMT
Now the last I heard it was the fact there was no definate points deduction for going into administration in the PL. The rule would be set when the firts team went into administration and each penalty would be given out dependant on the circumstances No it CLEARLY states in the FA Prem Rule book a 9 point deduction www.premierleague.com/staticFiles/f4/20/0,,12306~139508,00.pdf Page 108 |
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Jan 20, 2009 9:04:05 GMT
OK Dave I didn't say I was right just that I had heard something different. Thank you for CLEARING that up
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Post by mark71 on Jan 20, 2009 9:39:32 GMT
Even though Man Citeh gave them £14m for Bellamy by the time they've paid his contract up they would of received £10m. that still leaves a £30m+ debt
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Post by wrighter on Jan 20, 2009 14:16:53 GMT
1. Trevor Brooking
2. West Ham Utd
3. FA
get the link ? absolutely fook all will be done
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Post by Tuncay Stryder on Jan 20, 2009 15:03:19 GMT
What will happen to West Ham?
Deducted points hopefully ;D
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Post by dexter97 on Jan 20, 2009 15:51:31 GMT
Who knows what will happen as regards their financial situation, but as far as the Tevez affair goes, I'm sure the FA will find a way to fudge it.
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