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Post by Spiderman on Dec 14, 2008 20:24:57 GMT
Come on then Huddy just what have I dished out? Back up what you spout with at least something. Tell you what I'll save you the bother, I have never either abused nor swore at anyone on this board. So I can categorically state that you are indeed a liar. you have called me a prik via personal message, so fuck off no-mates ;D ;D Another liar
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Post by RICH68 on Dec 14, 2008 20:26:11 GMT
now now children.behave yourselves or i`ll bang your heads together
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Post by turd on Dec 14, 2008 20:29:19 GMT
you have called me a prik via personal message, so fuck off no-mates ;D ;D Another liar go find some friends
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Post by Spiderman on Dec 14, 2008 20:32:44 GMT
Surely you should be complaining about Fulham as the team that embody everything bad about the Premiership? Mediocre team with no history, no support, foreign owners and cheats like Johnson and Pantsil. Well TBH mystical no I shouldn’t be complaining about Fulham, I haven’t been a ST holder at Fulham for 18 years, I don’t sponsor player at Fulham, I don’t buy Fulham merchandise, I don’t wear a Fulham replica shirt. Stoke are my team and I have a right as a paying customer to voice my opinions when the team plays rubbish, particularly when IMHO it’s all down the choices the manager is making.
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Dec 14, 2008 20:36:14 GMT
Spiderman - Maybe some of the signings we made have not yet pulled up trees, but this is a 38 game season and these players that were according to you a waste of money are doing a good job of keeping us alive & kicking in this league, we are not rock bottom are we?
We were wrote off at the beginning of the season as relegation favourites, yet we are still punching above our weight.
Yes, I think that a few of the signings were panic buys, this was forced upon us because we had such a small squad, we obviously tried for better quality players like the pennants and ledleys and Zigic etc but we were unfortunate to not be an attractive enough club at the time. IMO Ledley would have come, but Cardiff did'nt want to sell him to Stoke.
We did manage to land Kitson though, and that signing IMO will come good for us when we get the wingers with the same quality of above, TP would of bought Kitson in with the intention of bringing in quality out wide too to provide him with decent crosses etc. Its known fact that before Kitson signed he was given a list of targets that TP was looking to get at the club, Kitson was impressed with these and signed, but unfortunatly we did'nt manage to get them in. Kitson IMO will be money well spent from January onwards when we get him the tools for his job. And i beleive his goals will take the pressure off Fuller and help us stay up.
I also think that Olifinjana will turn out to be a decent player for us too, Soares is still young but has lots of potential.
I must admit Amdy Faye has yet to win me over, but we have also signed Sorenson & Abd Faye who paired with Shawcross is a brilliant pairing.
All and all the point I am making is when we strengthen next season we will add the extra quality required, we will then have the bargaining tool of better wages and survivng our first season. then your so called 'missfits' will still make bloody good squad players, and the likes of the pericards, creswells, pughs will see the door.
This club is growing, why are you so downbeat? Do you just love to hate TP?
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Post by Spiderman on Dec 14, 2008 20:44:33 GMT
Tony, they’re only a waste of money because Pulis refuses to play them but instead plays the woeful Cresswell, poor Whelan, poor Pugh, unfit and obviously injured Delap and the out of his depth Wilkinson. While we have over £8.5m worth of the managers signings sitting on the bench or not even being picked for the squad.
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Dec 14, 2008 20:53:49 GMT
i know what you mean, but surely over the course of a season its a squad effort, not just a best 11 effort? Dropping players sometimes gives them the incentive to really 'work aard' and when they next get their chance they'll bust a gut to keep hold of their place?
If players know they are first on the team sheet, they can become careless, changing it every now and then keeps them all on their toes as 'their' position is not guaranteed.
TP may also be playing the likes of Pugh & Cressy the opportunity to prove their worth before January, that alone should be motivation for them to have a good game.
TP could also be putting them in the shop window for January as we prepare for letting a few go and bringing in better players?
Tonge though is a bit of a mystery, he must of been a panic buy to make up the numbers when we failed for Ledley.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 14, 2008 20:55:39 GMT
Sipderman is a WUM of the worst kind. Dishes it out but clearly can't take it back. Come on then Huddy just what have I dished out? Back up what you spout with at least something. Tell you what I'll save you the bother, I have never either abused nor swore at anyone on this board. So I can categorically state that you are indeed a liar. You're a WUM buddy, you take great pleasure in posting on this board with the sole intention of getting a rise out of others. That's the truth son, I'm no liar.
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Post by Spiderman on Dec 14, 2008 20:59:07 GMT
I’m sorry Tony I just don’t share your optimism, too many if buts and maybes. Against teams like Fulham and Hull he should be fielding the strongest and best team to give us the best opportunity to get all 3 points.
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Post by Spiderman on Dec 14, 2008 21:08:16 GMT
As I have already said Huddy you’re a liar. This board is all about debate and that’s why I post, just because I don’t share the same opinions as you makes mine no less relevant. What I posted to start this thread is what I truly believe. I’m sorry if you don’t like it and it doesn’t fit into the rose tinted specs bracket and fall into line with the Pulis got us to the prem so he can do no wrong category but it would be a poor message board if we all spouted the same things and dared never to offer even the slightest hint of criticism.
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Post by turd on Dec 14, 2008 21:11:25 GMT
2 posts in a row? trying to retrieve your own thread spiderboy?? everyone is bored of you. go get some mates. ;D
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 14, 2008 21:16:22 GMT
As I have already said Huddy you’re a liar. This board is all about debate and that’s why I post, just because I don’t share the same opinions as you makes mine no less relevant. What I posted to start this thread is what I truly believe. I’m sorry if you don’t like it and it doesn’t fit into the rose tinted specs bracket and fall into line with the Pulis got us to the prem so he can do no wrong category but it would be a poor message board if we all spouted the same things and dared never to offer even the slightest hint of criticism. I've tried to debate with you and all you can do is call me a liar. With due respect, you are the disingenuous one as you allege "it's all about debate", yet all you post is negativity. I don't read any "debate" in any of your posts.
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Post by potters 22 on Dec 14, 2008 21:21:17 GMT
Spiderman is of course the dickhead bringbackmuggleton.
Ignore this attention seeking prik and he will crawl away just like he's done before!!
Anything king tony does he slaggs the bloke off! FACT!
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Post by jarhead on Dec 14, 2008 21:30:22 GMT
Well said Spiderman.
The duluded on here can't have one critical word said against Tony Dulis when lately what he is dishing up especially at home is FUCKIN WANK,BORING CROCK OF SHIT SO CALLED FOOTBALL...!
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Post by Spiderman on Dec 14, 2008 21:32:24 GMT
Huddy I call you a liar because you accuse me of dishing it out but not being able to take it back, something that you could not possibly substantiate, or to put it another way a lie. I take almost everything anyone throws at me without handing out abuse or swearing at them, in fact the majority of the time I just ignore the personal insults. I do take offence though at being publicly labelled with the sort of bile that turd was posting about me.
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 14, 2008 21:36:14 GMT
The unacceptable bile's been removed but ffs does this have to get so personal, it's more like gladiatorial combat than a footy MB.
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Post by Admin on Dec 14, 2008 21:43:17 GMT
We suggest that some of you read the Rules and Guidelines thread again carefully.
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Post by Spiderman on Dec 14, 2008 21:45:23 GMT
The unacceptable bile's been removed but ffs does this have to get so personal, it's more like gladiatorial combat than a footy MB. So Sal what are your opinions about yesterday’s match team selection tactics and omission of any creative player in the starting 11 coupled with the managers reluctance to play almost £9m of talent that he signed whilst continuing to give his vote of confidence to players that were at best mediocre in the championship last year? Did you enjoy the match and did you think it was a good spectacle?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 14, 2008 21:49:27 GMT
Huddy I call you a liar because you accuse me of dishing it out but not being able to take it back, something that you could not possibly substantiate, or to put it another way a lie. I take almost everything anyone throws at me without handing out abuse or swearing at them, in fact the majority of the time I just ignore the personal insults. I do take offence though at being publicly labelled with the sort of bile that turd was posting about me. I'm merely referring to some of your replies with the smilies posted. Rest assured I would never swear at you on a public messageboard. I'm more than happy to debate with you, for example, Cresswell isn't prem quality, you're right there. But when I posted that despite the quality TP wanted refusing to come to us, we are still 14th by December, you failed to reply to that. It's you that wants debate, I'm happy to have one. Maybe you could start by finding some positives rather than the constant negatives you continually post.
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Dec 14, 2008 21:51:58 GMT
I never knew Dodgy Bri posted on here
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Post by slangking on Dec 14, 2008 21:52:22 GMT
Admin seem to be quite happy to allow this wind-up merchant to constantly take the piss out of Stoke fans on this messageboard. In the past such posters as BBM and Hudsongod were banned for life and have not been missed, why are admin letting him get away with it? This isn't about stifling debate, the likes of jarhead and Pugsley are Pulis haters but I can accept that they are fans fair enough, this mug NEVER gives the impression of being a fan. Why do we have to endure a clear wind up merchant? On any other board he would have been fuct off months ago.
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 14, 2008 21:52:31 GMT
Pretty crap as a spectacle, I was disappointed with Whelan who deserved to start after his displays v Rotherham and Newcastle, but we managed not to lose against a useful side and at least some of that's down to Pulis pragmatism. Can't find the link to my post yesterday about 2 points v Hull and Fulham being 4 dangerous points lost (not that we've got a God-given right to beat either of them but we could and should have gone at both a lot harder) but you get the general idea.
I wasn't complaining about the footy part of the debate though, just the liar liar pants on fire stuff...
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Post by Spiderman on Dec 14, 2008 21:59:36 GMT
Huddy I find it hard to see many positives that can be had from the match yesterday even the welcome point should have been 3 and most people were looking at this match as one of the winnable home matches. I suppose the positives are that Fuller didn’t get sent off, the ref didn’t give a stone cold penalty against us and we only dropped 1 place in the league over the weekend. Yes things could be far worse (WBA style) but at the same time things could be far better and the points I made in my first post are all valid. I would never expect a Pulis side to play free flowing attacking football but he could at least have the bottle to see what the majority of others can see that Cresswell, Pugh, Amdy and even Whelan just aren’t good enough and at least give some of his multi million pound purchases a fair crack at the whip.
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Post by Spiderman on Dec 14, 2008 22:01:23 GMT
Admin seem to be quite happy to allow this wind-up merchant to constantly take the piss out of Stoke fans on this messageboard. In the past such posters as BBM and Hudsongod were banned for life and have not been missed, why are admin letting him get away with it? This isn't about stifling debate, the likes of jarhead and Pugsley are Pulis haters but I can accept that they are fans fair enough, this mug NEVER gives the impression of being a fan. Why do we have to endure a clear wind up merchant? On any other board he would have been fuct off months ago. HAHAHA is that your attempt at irony ;D ;D
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Post by turd on Dec 14, 2008 22:04:41 GMT
agree slangking,along with 5000 others.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 14, 2008 22:11:40 GMT
Huddy I find it hard to see many positives that can be had from the match yesterday even the welcome point should have been 3 and most people were looking at this match as one of the winnable home matches. I suppose the positives are that Fuller didn’t get sent off, the ref didn’t give a stone cold penalty against us and we only dropped 1 place in the league over the weekend. Yes things could be far worse (WBA style) but at the same time things could be far better and the points I made in my first post are all valid. I would never expect a Pulis side to play free flowing attacking football but he could at least have the bottle to see what the majority of others can see that Cresswell, Pugh, Amdy and even Whelan just aren’t good enough and at least give some of his multi million pound purchases a fair crack at the whip. I can only assume he has his reasons for not playing them, my take on it is that he is happier playing safe with what he knows rather than experiment. It's got us in a good position so far so I'm assuming he doesn't want to make too many changes. I will wait and see who comes in during January before I get overtly critical. I'm not ecstatic about our style of play either but staying up is more important to me than worrying about if our style is pretty or not.
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Post by nathan on Dec 14, 2008 22:12:44 GMT
I personally felt it represented the lack of ideas.
High balls to the 7ft bloke? Christ on a bike.
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Dec 14, 2008 22:14:26 GMT
Huddy I find it hard to see many positives that can be had from the match yesterday even the welcome point should have been 3 and most people were looking at this match as one of the winnable home matches. I suppose the positives are that Fuller didn’t get sent off, the ref didn’t give a stone cold penalty against us and we only dropped 1 place in the league over the weekend. Yes things could be far worse (WBA style) but at the same time things could be far better and the points I made in my first post are all valid. I would never expect a Pulis side to play free flowing attacking football but he could at least have the bottle to see what the majority of others can see that Cresswell, Pugh, Amdy and even Whelan just aren’t good enough and at least give some of his multi million pound purchases a fair crack at the whip. Differing opinions can cause conflict on any MB
I really can see what Spiderman is saying, and to a certain extent I can see what he is getting at
As a lifelong Stokie, I will respect and support what the manager does, as long as we are in a position that can justify his team selections etc
Three points away from eighth place, and at the present time out of the dreaded bottom three, and with a few injuries to contend with
I really can see both sides of the thread, and suggest that while debate is all well and good, the general concensus is that we are doing better than expected, and if TP keeps us up this season, then nobody can have any complaints at all
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Post by bertieb on Dec 14, 2008 22:27:35 GMT
Spidey,"The point being you have to create chances to score, if you don't score you don't win matches and goalless draws just won't be enough to keep us in this league." Actually goaless draws from now on in would probably keep us in this league ;D
RS
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Post by Stokecity_m on Dec 14, 2008 23:18:49 GMT
Spiderman, Spiderman, Does whatever a vale fan can Spins his crap, any were, Everything he's says is just lies. Look Out! Here comes the Spiderman.
Is he strong? Listen bud, He's got retard genes in his blood. Can post shit from a thread Take a look overhead Hey, there There goes the Spiderman.
In the chill of night At the scene of a crime Like a streak of shite He arrives just in time.
Spiderman, Spiderman Friendly message board Spiderman Wealth and fame He's ignored Bum love is his reward.
Look Out! Here comes the Spiderman.
Fuck off vale park please!
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