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Post by daverichards on Nov 30, 2008 10:31:20 GMT
I don't like it, I don't like it in opposition players who go looking for fouls, and I don't like it when our own players do it .
was it a penalty , well there was contact, did he look for it, yep, and he he admitted it in the MOTD interview , and his "Hurdle" of the goalkeeper , well he left his leg hanging there looking for contact a little too long in my opinion .
We'd have gone ape shit if a player had done that against us, calling him a diving cheat .
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Post by turd on Nov 30, 2008 10:32:43 GMT
if players do it against us then why can't we do it against them?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 30, 2008 10:34:14 GMT
Not sure I agree Dave, I think sometimes we are a bit too "nice" about these things and I often think we should be a little bit more "professional" as pretty much every other team are (look at Hull for example.)
On more than one occassion yesterday they should have had players booked but because we didn't roll around the ref left it alone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 10:35:09 GMT
Fair enough turd, but it makes people on here who cry about Ronaldo cheating look like steaming hypocrites.
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Post by glouscesterstokie on Nov 30, 2008 10:34:09 GMT
yes he made a meal out of it but it was a penatly it wasent like it was a dive:s
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Nov 30, 2008 10:36:17 GMT
Simple really
Dont go down, dont get the penalty, lose 1-0
Twice this season Rory could have gone down and got penalties, but being the honest pro he is, we ended up with nowt
Cant condone cheating, but everyone else does it so whats good for the goose . . . .
RVD - see your point of course, so I probably am a steaming hypocrite - but Ronaldos just a twat full stop
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Nov 30, 2008 10:36:18 GMT
Illegitimatedave, What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander why should we not look for fouls?
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Post by sheikh al dubai bin stokie on Nov 30, 2008 10:36:48 GMT
on the other hand, ricardo got a boot to the face (or chest/neck) yesterday and stayed on his feet... any other premiership "star" would have hit the deck like a sack-o-spuds and made a right meal of it... trying to get the other player booked/sent off... Ricci just shruged it off...
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Post by turd on Nov 30, 2008 10:37:59 GMT
Fair enough turd, but it makes people on here who cry about Ronaldo cheating look like steaming hypocrites. the difference is ronaldo dives when he hasn't been touched and fuller went down when he was.its clever like alan shearer said on MOTD |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 10:39:04 GMT
What's the difference? It's still cheating isn't it?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 30, 2008 10:40:41 GMT
Fair enough turd, but it makes people on here who cry about Ronaldo cheating look like steaming hypocrites. I'm shocked that anyone could ever compare what Ric did yesterday with Ronaldo's theatrics. It was a penalty and he did get caught, we should also remember that Ric was in full flow at the time he was clipped. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 10:42:00 GMT
Jamo, I agree. I didn't think it was a penalty at the time, but having seen the replay, think it probably just about was.
However, Fuller did admit in his interview that he made sure he went down as soon as there was contact, and it is hugely hypocritical for folk on here to look for ways of justifying Fuller diving (if they can do it why can't we etc.) while abusing Ronaldo for diving.
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Post by turd on Nov 30, 2008 10:43:57 GMT
What's the difference? It's still cheating isn't it? no. keeper hit fullers leg, fuller went down, penalty. nobody touches ronaldo and he goes down like he's bin hit on the head by a hard dog shit. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 10:44:53 GMT
So it's not cheating to go make sure you go down the second you feel any contact?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 30, 2008 10:48:44 GMT
Surely there is a difference though between making sure the ref knows and diving when there is absolutely zero contact?
We are a very honest team (sometimes too honest) so I don't think we should get too concerned over getting a decision we we deserved.
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Post by turd on Nov 30, 2008 10:49:13 GMT
you could put it like that or you could put it like , the keeper came running out, hit fullers leg and he went down.the keeper would have put off fullers run so it was a foul.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 10:50:33 GMT
If that had been King through on goal yesterday and not Fuller, and he'd made those comments in the interview, would there have been this reaction on here?
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 30, 2008 10:51:01 GMT
I don't like it, I don't like it in opposition players who go looking for fouls, and I don't like it when our own players do it . was it a penalty , well there was contact, did he look for it, yep, and he he admitted it in the MOTD interview , and his "Hurdle" of the goalkeeper , well he left his leg hanging there looking for contact a little too long in my opinion . We'd have gone ape shit if a player had done that against us, calling him a diving cheat . The HONOUR in football went out at about the same time as money came into it! Greed will devour itself in the end. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 30, 2008 10:52:54 GMT
But the fact is, it was a penalty so perhaps we shouldn't get too carried away with it.
I'm sure swanland would have been fuming if Hull had not been awarded a pen if the same had happened in our box.
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Post by daverichards on Nov 30, 2008 10:55:27 GMT
Jamo , I'm not fuming , there was clearly contact , so there can be no arguments it was a penalty, but on that and at least one other occasion fuller looked for the foul . Something I'm just not keen on at all
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 30, 2008 10:56:00 GMT
I don't like it, I don't like it in opposition players who go looking for fouls, and I don't like it when our own players do it . was it a penalty , well there was contact, did he look for it, yep, and he he admitted it in the MOTD interview , and his "Hurdle" of the goalkeeper , well he left his leg hanging there looking for contact a little too long in my opinion . We'd have gone ape shit if a player had done that against us, calling him a diving cheat . I'll tell you what annoyed me, Myhill getting booked!?!?! ....and I suppose it could have been worse! I can accept Fuller "buying" a pen because that happens in football and I would not want our players to be any different as it would put the club at a severe disadvantage. But I think it grossly unfair that Myhill who was the "victim" gets booked for his troubles................not fair! |
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 30, 2008 10:57:04 GMT
I thought it was a penalty. Fuller was on a run and the keeper made contact with his leg. What more constitutes a penalty? I wonder what the reaction would have been if the ref had not given it. I'm pretty sure the Hull fans would have been laughing their balls off and us Stokies would have been fuming for weeks.
OS.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 30, 2008 11:00:45 GMT
Swanland...you're beginning to sound like one of the whingeing Stokies that you were on about earlier. "Booo...he's behind you!" ;D
OS.
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Post by PolPotter on Nov 30, 2008 11:03:56 GMT
Keeper missed ball but made contact with Fuller. Fuller fell and penalty was awarded. Nothing wrong with that, unless you're a Hull supporter.
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Nov 30, 2008 11:06:45 GMT
For me Ric doesn't normally look for fouls in the way some do (ala Ronaldo / Gerrard) but he certainly made the most of that yesterday. Was it a penalty? Well ive seen the replay about 6 times now and to be honest I don't think its a penalty. Ric knew he was going to ground before he even knocked the ball past the keeper. Very clever and is a trick alot of forwards use where they delibrately leave the trailing leg in looking for minimal contact so as to give the ref an excuse to award the pen. If it had been given against us id have been absolutely fuming but hey ho other teams do it week in week out and we certainly need all the decisions we can get this year so good luck to Ricci for the theatrics. 8 out of 10  |
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 30, 2008 11:12:44 GMT
Ric did what 99% of players would do in that position. He got to the ball first and as soon as he felt a bit of contact he went down
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 30, 2008 11:18:08 GMT
I'd like to know what else he could have done. Try to jump over the keeper's arm and land on his arse and lose a good goalscoring opportunity or simply stop and say..."I can't be bothered"?
OS.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 30, 2008 11:19:57 GMT
I'd like to know what else he could have done. Try to jump over the keeper's arm and land on his arse and lose a good goalscoring opportunity or simply stop and say..."I can't be bothered"? OS. Exactly OS |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 30, 2008 11:23:48 GMT
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 30, 2008 11:23:27 GMT
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