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Post by turd on Nov 30, 2008 9:59:51 GMT
in january. i say, a left winger and a pacey striker.
camara from wigan (the one who we nearly brought) and ledley.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Nov 30, 2008 10:36:54 GMT
I'd go for minimum two, probably three. Aaron Lennon as a wide player, Marlon King would do me as a striker and some one with a bit of real flair in centre mid, where we are really lacking IMO. We have lots of midfield break up players but no general. I'd like to see Whelan given a chance first but failing that, I'd settle for Lampard (I can dream can't I?)
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Post by daverichards on Nov 30, 2008 11:09:42 GMT
sorry but what has LEDLEY done to deserve this price tag, this mythical status as the answer to our prayers on the left wing .
as king and fuller dont get on I wouldn't bring him to the club .
I'd go back in for Zigic if the price was right .
What we need is a South American , every Prem club has one ;D
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Post by premierpotters08 on Nov 30, 2008 11:14:52 GMT
a pacey striker camara,zigic centre mid with some sort of mind and can pass left winger pacey can put a cross in and sorry the price is to high dor ledley is imo.
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Post by dadofsam on Nov 30, 2008 11:27:06 GMT
Pulis has had many opportunities to bring in the sort of players everyone seems agree we need and has either failed to or chosen not to. Why will January be any different
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Post by monkeycat on Nov 30, 2008 11:27:04 GMT
We won't be signing Ledley. A new winger will be either Pennant or Haynes. Surman, will also be targeted as he can cover a couple of positions.
Strikers, TP will target Camara (not sure Wigan will want to part with him now) Harewood, and possibly a lad from the lower leagues.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 30, 2008 12:12:22 GMT
I dont think we can change too much this season but we need better quality, certainly from wide areas and dead balls, would like a better central midfielder but dont think we will as TP is happy with strong holding players.
I expect another striker possibly a player like harewood. At leat one wide player , i think he will go back for Pennant but i think Ledley may go to a bigger club.
I would also like to see us have the option of a full back who can get forward and put in decent crosses on either flank
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Post by th05 on Nov 30, 2008 12:16:41 GMT
I agree that we need a striker and left winger, but I'm not so sure that Ledley is worth this rumoured 6 million.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 30, 2008 14:10:05 GMT
Good post Johnny:
Agreed. Pulis will always play a holding player (Diao being his preferred no.1 a the mo), so with a fully fit and on form Lenny and of course a place for Rory needed, then that's going to leave just one first choice place in midfield open.
Yep we do need cover up front but I don't think we should be spending big in this area until other positions have been addressed. Much as Pennant would certainly be an improvement on what we already have, there are many reasons why I wouldn't be ecstatic by his arrival.
Whether Ledley is worth the price tag or not, I don't think he is ideally what we need. We are desperate for width and pace. He really isn't that quick at all, and he has made it no secret that he believes his best position is in the middle of the park.
I couldn't agree with you more chap. With Griff and Higgy having had such excellent seasons so far, not many people are likely to consider that at least one of these positions needs serious attention.
Our shocking lack of pace (over the entire pitch) has been one our biggest handicaps in the campaign so far, as well as making an orthodox left winger a priority it is essential that we get some pace down the right flank. I assume that Lenny will be first choice for the right midfield position, so ultimately it is going to be the right back position that is going to have to be addressed.
As it seemed that apparently there was in the region of 10 mil available to Tone in his pursuit of both Pennant and Ledley during the last transfer window then I would think it's safe to assume that a similar amount is going to be available to him in January.
With the above in mind, I think we should be looking for a quality left winger and an outstanding right back both with genuine pace.
Stephen Hunt (Reading) Kyle Naughton (Sheff Utd)
We wouldn't get much change out of 10 mil for the pair, but the addition of these two players alone, would make a massive difference to the team as a whole.
Naughton------Faye-----Higgy-------Griff
Lenny-------Diao----------Delap------Hunt
--------------Fuller--------Kitson-----------
For the first time we would have real pace on both flanks, with Kitson receiving 'proper' service, we would also have the dream centre back partnership of Faye and Higgy, and Rory playing in his best position as a box to box central midfielder.
Apologies for the long answer.
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Post by Stay up again for - hoodyjr on Nov 30, 2008 14:14:01 GMT
zaki ?
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Post by GlynDerby on Nov 30, 2008 17:08:59 GMT
I know we've had a look at another Cardiff player as well, Could be in for a double signing although im sure cardiff will try to block it......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 30, 2008 17:11:40 GMT
I know we've had a look at another Cardiff player as well, Could be in for a double signing although im sure cardiff will try to block it...... Spill the beans Glynn
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 17:13:06 GMT
Rather than Ledley, Michael Kightly of Wolves seems a much better player.
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Post by GlynDerby on Nov 30, 2008 17:15:52 GMT
I know we've had a look at another Cardiff player as well, Could be in for a double signing although im sure cardiff will try to block it...... Spill the beans Glynn At least one of you was paying attention ;D We've had a good look at wayne routledge....He's only on loan at Cardiff and we could be making an offer in Jan, I doubt very much that villa will let him be sold but a very good prospect for a loan, Hes only 23, very fast, good on both right a left wings....
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Post by GlynDerby on Nov 30, 2008 17:18:11 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 30, 2008 17:18:21 GMT
Routledge is exactly what we need I think. We need a speed merchant down the flank.
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Post by GlynDerby on Nov 30, 2008 17:19:58 GMT
He's been watched enough times now for me to think its a very serious prospect......He's only on a short term loan to Cardiff and it runs out in Jan, if he's happy enough to go there he'll jump at the chance of us....might just be what he needs to get his career back on track.
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Post by oatcakeeater on Nov 30, 2008 17:22:10 GMT
An attack minded centre mid player is a must and probably a wide player. Other than that I think we're not too bad, we could even lose a few players - Pericard, Buxton, Phillips.
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Post by march4 on Nov 30, 2008 17:28:01 GMT
More average Championship players?. Routlege will soon join Oli, Soares and Tonge in the Reserves. Ab Faye and Tommy Sorenson are our best two signings and look where they were playing last year - in the Premiership. We are better off looking at experienced Premiership players who might be more inclined to join us now because of our solid start to the season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 30, 2008 17:30:03 GMT
Where have You heaard about this then Glyn?
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Post by serpico on Nov 30, 2008 17:35:15 GMT
Pulis has had many opportunities to bring in the sort of players everyone seems agree we need and has either failed to or chosen not to. Why will January be any different Because he cannot possibly go out and buy players in the mold as the current ones, he did that in the summer, he has to be looking to add some pace out wide and some creativity in central midfield. That said, we are being linked with lee McCulloch again, who no doubt Pulis has ear marked for a wide position,... he's currently playing centre back for Rangers.... says it all really
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Post by hchpotter on Nov 30, 2008 17:37:05 GMT
I think you'll find Ab Faye and Sorro spent most of last season sat on their arse. Keegan didn't play Faye, and Sorro didn't get a look in under O'Neil. There are bargains to be had from the championship as well as prem reserves.
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Post by turd on Nov 30, 2008 17:39:52 GMT
keegan did play faye.
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Post by kingdeano on Nov 30, 2008 17:51:38 GMT
sorry but what has LEDLEY done to deserve this price tag, this mythical status as the answer to our prayers on the left wing . as king and fuller dont get on I wouldn't bring him to the club . I'd go back in for Zigic if the price was right . What we need is a South American , every Prem club has one ;D one minute your saying ledley doesnt deserve his price tag and what as he done, then the next you say we should sign zigic! what the bloody hell have you seen of zigic that makes you think he would be a good signing?? at least with ledley you get the chance of seeing him play whether it be on the championship, sky etc, he looks a decent player, id love know how you think zigic would be good! clutching at straws id say
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Post by GlynDerby on Nov 30, 2008 17:59:12 GMT
Where have You heaard about this then Glyn? Just heard a few bits a bobs when with the academy, was speaking to John Rudge a few weeks back as well and he mentioned his name
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Post by Carrot on Nov 30, 2008 18:06:29 GMT
Tbh, we definetly need at least one pacey striker with a proven goal-scoring record at this level, like a Camara, Bejani or a Harewood. Imo, even though it's an extremely long shot anyway, unlike many other people, I wouldn't be convinced that Zigic would be as good as people are making out tbh and for the price we could end up paying for him and his wages, it wouldn't be worth it imo . Also, a pacey winger that can get to the byline and whip a quality ball into the box would be welcome like a Pennant, Kightly (Wolves), Adam Johnson (Boro) or El Zhar (Liverpool). Ledley would be a big gamble imo and for the money Cardiff are suggesting, it would not be worth it at all tbh. I can see him being a flop imo. I've heard and seen different things of Routeledge but as he isn't gonna cost a bomb, he'd be worth a gamble imo. A creative centre mid would be decent as well although I think Whelan could do a job in that role tbh but failing that, a move for a decent Man City fringe player in Jan or loan an up and coming talent from Arsenal for example would be alright. But, we'll see what happens come January ;D
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Post by crimesy on Nov 30, 2008 18:08:27 GMT
a pacey left winger, a striker, a full back to challenge Higgy and Griff. Then maybe a loan or two?
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Post by lurcherman on Nov 30, 2008 18:20:14 GMT
Glyn, on that profile it says he's 6ft 11ins tall ;D Is that true? If so, he's certainly big enough
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Post by glouscesterstokie on Nov 30, 2008 18:25:56 GMT
striker and a winger
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Post by GlynDerby on Nov 30, 2008 18:33:05 GMT
Glyn, on that profile it says he's 6ft 11ins tall ;D Is that true? If so, he's certainly big enough ;D ;D maybe 5'11", unless he's been on the growth hormones ;D
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