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Post by stokie32 on Nov 30, 2008 9:18:40 GMT
if phil brown wants to moan about the pen ,he wants to take a look at there goal,did anyone see how far forward they took the free kick must have been a good 10-15 yards forward from where griff brought marney down ,griff clipped him in there half and he continued to roll forward ,watch it on the box see what u think . personally i dont think there free kick would have reached the our penalty box if it was taken in the right place. CHEATING BASTARDS  |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 30, 2008 9:32:05 GMT
if phil brown wants to moan about the pen ,he wants to take a look at there goal,did anyone see how far forward they took the free kick must have been a good 10-15 yards forward from where griff brought marney down ,griff clipped him in there half and he continued to roll forward ,watch it on the box see what u think . personally i dont think there free kick would have reached the our penalty box if it was taken in the right place. CHEATING BASTARDS Don't you think you are being a bit sanctimonious about all this? Stoke players are whiter than white are they? Every manager will contest referees penalty decisions and lets face it Fuller admitted he deliberately went down (not that I wouldn't want a City player to go down in the same circumstances). As for cheating, well I really don't think the towell stuff is legal or even in the spirit of the game. If I were you I would worry about being labelled a load of "Wengers"! Just move on! |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2008 9:34:30 GMT
If they moved the ball forward big deal. They took their chance like everyone does. More pressing is that we didn't deal with the ball forward. Although it was a fine finish by King.
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Post by Davef on Nov 30, 2008 9:36:45 GMT
It's up to the referee to make sure that free kicks are taken from the position of the foul.
He made of point of making sure Rory was in the exact position the ball had gone out before he took his throws, yet didn't have a problem allowing Hull to take their free kick 10-15 yards further forward from where it should've been.
Had the free kick been taken in it's proper position, then it's highly debatable as to whether Hull would've scored.
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Post by walrus on Nov 30, 2008 9:40:03 GMT
They did nick a few yards but everyone does it. King took the chance very well when it fell to him. I thought he was their best player onn the day.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2008 9:40:10 GMT
Had the free kick been taken in it's proper position, then it's highly debatable as to whether Hull would've scored.
And if we'd defended it properly its debatable whether they would have scored.
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 30, 2008 9:44:28 GMT
Had the free kick been taken in it's proper position, then it's highly debatable as to whether Hull would've scored. And if we'd defended it properly its debatable whether they would have scored. ..........and if my Aunty had had a cock she would have been my Uncle! |
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 30, 2008 9:45:38 GMT
stokie32....thou protesteth too much. They didn't do what any other team wouldn't have done, egged a few yards. Personally, I came away satisfied with a point although I thought we deserved to win it on chances created. But, their keeper brought off two fabulous saves plus we weren't clinical enough with our other chances. Do as Swanland says...move on or we will become a bunch of moaners. I thought Tango Man was the perfect Panto Villain yesterday. He had done his homework and gave us back what we have been giving other teams. An eye for an eye, a towel for a towel. He even came out for a bow at the end of the performance by clapping us in The Boothen. How can anyone dislike a man who has a sense of humour...despite his dastardlyness?  The Windass act was a bit naughty though.  OS. |
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Post by stokebill on Nov 30, 2008 9:52:33 GMT
I just wish Turner hadn't been allowed to comfortably head the ball to a team mate in space. He must have levered Cort off balance as the ball came in as Leon didn't even make it off the floor. Poor piece of defending, sad to say.
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 30, 2008 10:06:29 GMT
Can't see that those few yards make any difference. What does make a difference is the poor defending in the box. Cort let himself down big time allowing Turner a free header to get ball across the box - Cort never moved?! That said, Hull are without doubt systematic cheats as witnessed yesterday. Not only Windass but every single free kick Stoke had the Hull players glance over their shoulder and move forward. Likewise their behavior before the penalty Meanwhile their sanctimonious manager attempted to referee the game non stop - should have been sent to the stands Yes he claps our fans at the end then slags us off as soon as he gets out of sight. Hulls sneaky tactics are organised and there is only one person responsible - that smarmy two faced creep Brown I did wonder why he is so loathed - now we know |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 30, 2008 10:11:32 GMT
TWM has it right, the reason they scored is because we defended the free-kick very poorly.
Cort is a liability I'm afraid and shouldn't be playing at this level.
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Post by AlliG on Nov 30, 2008 10:51:33 GMT
The position of the free kick was irrelevant. Most defenders can knock the ball into the opposition penalty area from 20 yards either side of the half way line.
The problem was with the big pussy cat at centre half.
I had hoped that a few weeks on the bench and the presence and example of Abdy Faye might have taught him to stand up for himself a bit.
Unfortunately for most of the game Marlon King pushed him exactly where he wanted him.
For the goal he didn't even need to win the header, just make enough of a challenge to put the player off but a tiny little nudge left him rooted to the spot.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 30, 2008 10:54:01 GMT
The position of the free kick was irrelevant. Most defenders can knock the ball into the opposition penalty area from 20 yards either side of the half way line. The problem was with the big pussy cat at centre half. I had hoped that a few weeks on the bench and the presence and example of Abdy Faye might have taught him to stand up for himself a bit. Unfortunately for most of the game Marlon King pushed him exactly where he wanted him. For the goal he didn't even need to win the header, just make enough of a challenge to put the player off but a tiny little nudge left him rooted to the spot. Bang on mate, I wouldn't ever call a player while the game is happening but Cort cannot play at this level (I question his attributes at Championship standard also.) |
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Post by premierpotters08 on Nov 30, 2008 10:57:10 GMT
if fuller hadnt of done a bit of a dive he wouldnt of got the peanalty we all do abit of "cheating" its part of the game thesedays unfortunatly.
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Post by northstokie on Nov 30, 2008 11:01:35 GMT
Had the free kick been taken in it's proper position, then it's highly debatable as to whether Hull would've scored. And if we'd defended it properly its debatable whether they would have scored. ..........and if my Aunty had had a cock she would have been my Uncle! You keep coming out with that saying, something you're not telling us? Do you come from a transgender family? |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 30, 2008 11:03:20 GMT
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 30, 2008 11:06:49 GMT
This is getting quite funny. ;D
OS.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 30, 2008 11:08:18 GMT
I'm not quite sure what the issue with the towels was all about to be honest. They were there all through the game and at no point did anyone say the Hull players couldn't use them.
The inference is that it's a time-wasting ploy by us but if that is the case why would do it when we are trailing?
The only issue I could see was that Brown only decided to use them once we were in the ascendancy, now that is cynical.
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Post by stokie32 on Nov 30, 2008 11:10:34 GMT
fucking few yards u having a laugh watch it again half the length of the pitch well nearly
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Post by monkeycat on Nov 30, 2008 11:13:31 GMT
If Griffin had not given away a stupid free kick then we probably would not have conceded, so probably more his fault than the ref's.
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 30, 2008 11:14:14 GMT
you cant blame griff for giving away a free kick near the half way line! if he was giving away free kicks around the edge of the box and geovanni banged them into the net that fair enough. but there were 2 headers contested in our box which were more the cause of the goal than the free kick
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Post by tony harrison on Nov 30, 2008 12:16:38 GMT
if phil brown wants to moan about the pen ,he wants to take a look at there goal,did anyone see how far forward they took the free kick must have been a good 10-15 yards forward from where griff brought marney down ,griff clipped him in there half and he continued to roll forward ,watch it on the box see what u think . personally i dont think there free kick would have reached the our penalty box if it was taken in the right place. CHEATING BASTARDS Hasn't got a lot to do with where the free kick was taken from but more about poor defending. Cort did not challenge for the first header when he should have done. Diao (man of the match, my arse) didn't get to the second header. Good finish by King. Please come back soon Ryan Shawcross, apart from the Manure game he has been the best partner for Abdoulaye. He would have cleared the first header or at least challenged for it. Cort has cost us again. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 30, 2008 12:27:12 GMT
Surely if you're going on about cheating, it should be the actual free-kick decision? Awful dive, awful refereeing.
Crap defending in the box cost us, though. Leon Cort at the back and all of a sudden we're back to last season where we're losing headers in the six yards box and conceding goals off crosses. Bugger him off.
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Post by serpico on Nov 30, 2008 12:39:28 GMT
Even if it had been taken from the right place, they still would have lumped it into the box like they always do, didn't someone find a stat somewhere that showed they play more long balls than anyone else ? they've also scored from more set pieces than any other team.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 13:30:06 GMT
Even if it had been taken from the right place, they still would have lumped it into the box like they always do, didn't someone find a stat somewhere that showed they play more long balls than anyone else ? they've also scored from more set pieces than any other team. And the orange cunt' still has the cheek to have a pop at our tactics |
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Post by stokie32 on Nov 30, 2008 15:53:34 GMT
only trying get a point across boys and girls even chris kamara missed it on sunday supplement,he picked up on everything else ???
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 30, 2008 15:55:47 GMT
A towel is barely fucking cheating! Cunt!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 16:01:23 GMT
Didn't see nowt wrong with the hull goal except for the fact that Griff got a yellow card for the "foul" FFS ref - which game did you watch? As for the towels, they were there for rory to gain an advantage and fair do's to hull - they also gained an advantage by wasting time using them. I really am starting to detest that Barmby fella though  |
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Post by stokie32 on Nov 30, 2008 16:43:02 GMT
open yer eyes jokieuk and warch the tv highlights
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Post by tazi on Nov 30, 2008 16:50:17 GMT
if phil brown wants to moan about the pen ,he wants to take a look at there goal,did anyone see how far forward they took the free kick must have been a good 10-15 yards forward from where griff brought marney down ,griff clipped him in there half and he continued to roll forward ,watch it on the box see what u think . personally i dont think there free kick would have reached the our penalty box if it was taken in the right place. CHEATING BASTARDS It must have convieniently slipped that whining wanking mind of Brown, along with that of the challenge on Fuller after turning his man on the very edge of the box which went without a booking. Yet the moaning wanker moans about a Stoke player not getting booked for a challenge. Fuck off Brown as i can't fuckin stand ya, ya tosser. |
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The Windass act was a bit naughty though. 
