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Post by Northy on Nov 29, 2008 20:47:01 GMT
Sent to me by a Coaching manual I subscribe to: -
How you defend at the long throw-in
I’ve noticed more and more teams using the long throw as a tactic to attack the near post. If you practice the defensive tactics on this page your team will be ready when it happens, and they will know to use the positions you have taught them in a match situation.
How to defend the long throw
Wigan and Manchester City put fewer defenders in the penalty area to give the goalkeeper more room,
Liverpool simply don’t put the ball out in their own half - defending the long throw-in has become a major
talking point in England. Here’s the best way for junior teams to defend against it, says David Clarke
Throw-ins aimed at near post
In junior soccer you will normally see the long throw aimed at the near post - distance and direction being the main reason. Positioning starts with the goalkeeper who stays on his line at the near post.
Attackers must be marked
Each attacker must be marked goalside by a defender.
In this case, an attacker makes a short run, so the defender goes with him to challenge for the header and prevent the flick on. You need two “spare” defenders, one in the six yard box just ahead of the near goal post. The other midway between the thrower and the penalty area to block any pass back to the thrower. Both should be ready to clear the ball if it drops into these areas.
Loading up the six yard box
In the second diagram the attackers have loaded the front of the six yard box in the hope that one of them will get the nod down for the others to attack. Get your players to man mark again, but get another defender to move into the space in front of the attackers in case the throw lands short or for any defensive headers that come out that
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 20:53:31 GMT
In which case You drop it short but not to Griffin ;D
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Post by s8to on Nov 29, 2008 21:00:04 GMT
Last couple of matches they dont seem to have been as effective
They also seem to be goiing awry at times as well
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Nov 29, 2008 20:59:06 GMT
We nearly scored again from it again today via Mama but Myhill made a good reaction save.
SGS
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Post by Stay up again for - hoodyjr on Nov 30, 2008 0:10:49 GMT
torquey had a good long throw today n pisses me of lookin at the away fans doing the throw gesjures or howeva u spell it
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Post by tuum on Nov 30, 2008 5:50:01 GMT
I don't think it is capable of being 100% defended. There will be some sides who are more comfortable with it than others but it will still cause problems. Hull being an example. They have good solid defenders and their CB's looked strong in the air. For the most part they defended it pretty well but there were still one or two balls flicked on that, on another day, could have caused a lot more damage.
Last week against WBA the throws were not as consistent as previously. Against Hull Rory's throws were generally pretty accurate.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2008 9:01:42 GMT
We haven't scored off one for a while but they should still be used. They are still a threat and a ball in the box. It's our corners that need work not the throw ins.  |
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Post by daverichards on Nov 30, 2008 9:08:35 GMT
we need to start mixing them up, dropping a few short one in to a player who can cross
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2008 9:14:47 GMT
I disagree Dave. Chuck it in.
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Post by daverichards on Nov 30, 2008 9:16:35 GMT
you can disagree all you want joe, I dunna care .
we still need to use them, just not every single time, they work when teams aren't too clued up on them, if we mix it up, its going to upset the tactics they have planned for them, and then, when they start having to leave players elsewhere to cover the short throw, BAM we can hit em long again
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 30, 2008 9:18:45 GMT
The wet conditions reduce its length (there's one I've never used myself, but I shall certainly note it down for future reference  ) but it's still a pain in the flaps to defend against, and still infinitely more useful than Soares sponging a fanny-like cross into the face of the nearest opposition defender. We'll score off one again soon, no need to start fretting. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2008 9:18:51 GMT
But dropping a short one just delays it. There's still a ball in the box coming so why do it by a less productive method?
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 30, 2008 9:23:45 GMT
But dropping a short one just delays it. There's still a ball in the box coming so why do it by a less productive method? Absolutely. Rory can chuck it more accurately than any player can kick it, so there's no point fannying around and risking someone fucking it up. |
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Post by daverichards on Nov 30, 2008 9:25:40 GMT
well its just my opinion joe, but if you do it once or twice and that player whips in a dangerous cross, then they oppo will start marking him, one less body of their's in the box, whilst still leaving our danger men in the box, and the player who had come out for the short one, can get into a position for any rebound
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2008 9:30:41 GMT
Dave, we are genrally up against teams with higher technical quality than ours. One more process is one more thing that can go wrong.
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Post by doitforfrank on Nov 30, 2008 9:40:29 GMT
The weather is also affecting it quite badly. Anyone who plays golf, knows the atmospherics will stop how far the ball will travel in the air. So now instead of the ball always bombarding the 6 yard box, Rory is now only just reaching the edge of the 6 yard box.
Just my two-penneth worth
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Post by AlliG on Nov 30, 2008 11:14:35 GMT
They are like Maguire's near post corners to Big Bren.
You can be as well organised as you like and successfully clear 6 or 7 but all it takes is 1 to skid off the top of either the forwards or the defenders head or drop into the the space where Fuller operates for a goal to be scored.
On another day, against another keeper, Fuller's header will go in.
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 30, 2008 11:22:59 GMT
they havent been as effective the last couple of weeks but we still could have had 2 goals from them yesterday! fullers header similar to the goal against sunderland and mamas flick on in the 2nd half. both could easily have gone in
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 30, 2008 12:32:12 GMT
We try doing the short ones and they're crap. Absolutely pointless. We could do with one that loops way over the top to the far post again. Anyway, who says they were ineffective? We would/should have scored 2 from them yesterday, were it not for reaction saves from Myhill.
The reason that they've not looked as good in the last two games is that we've been playing against Championship-style defenders. Remember how little trouble it caused last year? Championship defenders are strong and can head a ball, while Premiership defenders are pacier and tackle well, but are crap in the air. Look at Sidibe rag-dolling John Terry as if he were Leon Cort as an example.
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Post by th05 on Nov 30, 2008 12:33:35 GMT
We nearly scored again from it again today via Mama but Myhill made a good reaction save. SGS Thought it was from Cort? |
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Post by Premier League Busta Rhymes on Nov 30, 2008 12:34:59 GMT
We could have had two yesterday from Cort & Fuller so its just a matter of time before someone else scores from it soon!
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Post by pretzel on Nov 30, 2008 13:04:36 GMT
I wonder how many goals Georgie Berry would have scored with Rory chucking em in to Big Bren's near post flick
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Post by stokeoptimist on Nov 30, 2008 13:07:09 GMT
"Thought it was from Cort? "
It was Fuller
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) but it's still a pain in the flaps to defend against, and still infinitely more useful than Soares sponging a fanny-like cross into the face of the nearest opposition defender.
