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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Nov 29, 2008 19:57:17 GMT
We play a similar kind of football. However, what stoke dont do is use underhand tactics. It was plainly obvious today that Hull are a cynical, underhanded and cheating football club. How many time was mama shoved in the back? How many times did their players go down when the heat was on, only to jump back up when their team won possession back or the game was stopped? The incident with Windarse blocking rory summed them up. Brown never stopped talking about how he didnt fear the throw in weapon, yet he made a deliberate attempt, that was against the rules, to try and stop the weapin being as devastating as we all know it can be. If Brown didnt order windarse to do that, then he deserves to be fined for a total lack of professionalism. The way in which their players demanded the towels used for Rory for every throw in they had, summed up by the behaviour of McShame at the end by rubbing his face all over it and then tossing the towel down as if to say "Fuck you". I wouldnt mind, but he is wank.
So there you have it folks. Hull used underhanded and cynical tactics and stoke, quite simply, do not. I prefer our honest, hardworking approach thanks.
SGS
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Nov 29, 2008 20:03:59 GMT
We play a similar kind of football. However, what stoke dont do is use underhand tactics. It was plainly obvious today that Hull are a cynical, underhanded and cheating football club. How many time was mama shoved in the back? How many times did their players go down when the heat was on, only to jump back up when their team won possession back or the game was stopped? The incident with Windarse blocking rory summed them up. Brown never stopped talking about how he didnt fear the throw in weapon, yet he made a deliberate attempt, that was against the rules, to try and stop the weapin being as devastating as we all know it can be. If Brown didnt order windarse to do that, then he deserves to be fined for a total lack of professionalism. The way in which their players demanded the towels used for Rory for every throw in they had, summed up by the behaviour of McShame at the end by rubbing his face all over it and then tossing the towel down as if to say "Fuck you". I wouldnt mind, but he is wank. So there you have it folks. Hull used underhanded and cynical tactics and stoke, quite simply, do not. I prefer our honest, hardworking approach thanks. SGS Here here. The players involved should feel ashamed of themselves. They earn a fortune and behave like two year olds. I thought the FA were all about demonstrating sportmanship and good conduct, portraying a good image of the game to youngsters playing at grass roots level. I would suggest what we saw from Windass et al was the exact opposite of that. |
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Post by growler on Nov 29, 2008 20:37:26 GMT
Pace
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Post by MrMagic on Nov 29, 2008 20:39:41 GMT
They also played TWO STRIKERS up front in an away game.
The sheer audacity of it.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 29, 2008 20:41:09 GMT
Did they?
Could have sworn that King plyed a lonely furrow up front until the late introduction of Cousin.
The main difference is that when they break, Hull do break in numbers whereas we seem to commit no more than 2 to 3 men forward.
We miss Liam badly and need a fully fit Lawrence back ASAP.
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Post by MrMagic on Nov 29, 2008 20:43:54 GMT
Yeh - I should have been specific about the total number of minutes that they tried this rediculous tactical approach.
A thousand apologies
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Post by macmozzer on Nov 29, 2008 20:44:54 GMT
totally agree ,they do like to play with a rigged deck of cards..........cheats to be honest!!!
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Post by whitehurst on Nov 29, 2008 21:02:24 GMT
Special tactics for a special team,that's all,not helped by a very poor official.We don't play like that usually,but tbh,we do change our tactics for most games which is good from our point of view.Never seen Windass do that before,never seen us put men on the posts for a pen before.Different tactics for different teams,thats all.PS We'll both be safe come May.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Nov 29, 2008 21:07:44 GMT
Special tactics for a special team,that's all,not helped by a very poor official.We don't play like that usually,but tbh,we do change our tactics for most games which is good from our point of view.Never seen Windass do that before,never seen us put men on the posts for a pen before.Different tactics for different teams,thats all.PS We'll both be safe come May. Well I think your talking bollox. You were the same at the Brit last season. You have done well and are where you are on merit. However, it does appear that you favour large chunks of gamesmanship to help you along the way. By the way, that was a great example set by Windarse and McShame to any young kids out there. Pair of pricks. SGS |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 29, 2008 21:13:19 GMT
SGS...It is all part and parcel of the game though isn't it. It isn't pretty to watch, just as our approach isn't pretty at times, but that is football.
The only thing winding me up about today was the label that we are an "overly physical" team. I just don't buy this one. For me, we are not physical enough in our approach and in terms of physical battles, they won pretty much all of them today.
We are far too nice by my reckoning and need to get a bit nastier from here on in.
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Post by whitehurst on Nov 29, 2008 21:15:06 GMT
Special tactics for a special team,that's all,not helped by a very poor official.We don't play like that usually,but tbh,we do change our tactics for most games which is good from our point of view.Never seen Windass do that before,never seen us put men on the posts for a pen before.Different tactics for different teams,thats all.PS We'll both be safe come May. Well I think your talking bollox. You were the same at the Brit last season. You have done well and are where you are on merit. However, it does appear that you favour large chunks of gamesmanship to help you along the way. By the way, that was a great example set by Windarse and McShame to any young kids out there. Pair of pricks. SGS As I said,special tactics for a special team,did you read what I wrote?I'm sure you'll find plenty of other examples of what not to show young players every week,all Arsenal games,Ronaldo,Guthrie on Fgan etc etc.If that's how you would set up your team,making sure all your players are angels then you won't get far. |
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Post by trebor63 on Nov 29, 2008 21:17:55 GMT
Special tactics for a special team,that's all,not helped by a very poor official.We don't play like that usually,but tbh,we do change our tactics for most games which is good from our point of view.Never seen Windass do that before,never seen us put men on the posts for a pen before.Different tactics for different teams,thats all.PS We'll both be safe come May. One or two Hull fans (probably the johnny come lately types) have been claiming Hull play wonderful free flowing football and frankly they don't! I've watched Hull twice on telly this season and once in the flesh and they are a decent hard working well organised outfit. They were very cynical (cheating?) today and used the long ball to good effect but certainly no football purists as some of the less intelligent pundits and fans would have us believe. I can see why they do well away and not so well at home cos they rely on quick breaks rather than forcing their game on the opposition as we do at home (but not away) I think neither of us are safe yet and both teams have a long hard fight on their hands BUT its a fight BOTH teams can win. We could (should) learn off each other at how to play away (inour case) or at home (in theirs) |
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 29, 2008 21:19:54 GMT
We play a similar kind of football. However, what stoke dont do is use underhand tactics. It was plainly obvious today that Hull are a cynical, underhanded and cheating football club. How many time was mama shoved in the back? How many times did their players go down when the heat was on, only to jump back up when their team won possession back or the game was stopped? The incident with Windarse blocking rory summed them up. Brown never stopped talking about how he didnt fear the throw in weapon, yet he made a deliberate attempt, that was against the rules, to try and stop the weapin being as devastating as we all know it can be. If Brown didnt order windarse to do that, then he deserves to be fined for a total lack of professionalism. The way in which their players demanded the towels used for Rory for every throw in they had, summed up by the behaviour of McShame at the end by rubbing his face all over it and then tossing the towel down as if to say "Fuck you". I wouldnt mind, but he is wank. So there you have it folks. Hull used underhanded and cynical tactics and stoke, quite simply, do not. I prefer our honest, hardworking approach thanks. SGS WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! HULL TRIED TO STOP US PLAYING OUR FOOTBALL AND IT'D NOT FAIR!!! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! WA! YOU SOUND JUST LIKE WENGER! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2008 21:21:26 GMT
Yeh - I should have been specific about the total number of minutes that they tried this rediculous tactical approach. A thousand apologies Well yeah, you should, considering it puts a different spin on your statement. I guess "They also played TWO STRIKERS up front in an away game. The sheer audacity of it. (for about ten minutes)" doesn't quite have the same ring to it? |
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Post by whitehurst on Nov 29, 2008 21:23:49 GMT
Special tactics for a special team,that's all,not helped by a very poor official.We don't play like that usually,but tbh,we do change our tactics for most games which is good from our point of view.Never seen Windass do that before,never seen us put men on the posts for a pen before.Different tactics for different teams,thats all.PS We'll both be safe come May. One or two Hull fans (probably the johnny come lately types) have been claiming Hull play wonderful free flowing football and frankly they don't! I've watched Hull twice on telly this season and once in the flesh and they are a decent hard working well organised outfit. They were very cynical (cheating?) today and used the long ball to good effect but certainly no football purists as some of the less intelligent pundits and fans would have us believe. I can see why they do well away and not so well at home cos they rely on quick breaks rather than forcing their game on the opposition as we do at home (but not away) I think neither of us are safe yet and both teams have a long hard fight on their hands BUT its a fight BOTH teams can win. We could (should) learn off each other at how to play away (inour case) or at home (in theirs) Can't diagree.Still think we'll both be safe,you on your home form and us on our away form. |
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Post by macmozzer on Nov 29, 2008 21:24:00 GMT
tony puls would never ever ever ever let his team be so dishonest..........unlike tango man!!!!
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 29, 2008 21:29:08 GMT
Swanland,
it's not moaning chief, we're just fed up of how the media have portrayed you as some kind of saviour of the English game, whilst we are the spawn of satan. It kinds grates when you watch games and it's totally different to that.
Like us, you play with no attacking width.
Like us, you are solid and well-organised.
Unlike us, you play pretty little triangles once in a blue moon that get you nowhere
Unlike us, you don't have someone who can chuck the ball some distance
Unlike you, we don't tend to use gamesmanship as our main tactic
But the media don't want to see the above do they?
The biggest difference between Stoke and Hull, is that we know exactly who we are. You're fast becoming next year's West Brom, with your moral footballing high ground nonsense.
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Post by macmozzer on Nov 29, 2008 21:31:37 GMT
bunny, thats it ,totally,WE KNOW WHO WE ARE.................AMEN!!!!
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Post by MrMagic on Nov 29, 2008 21:48:36 GMT
Yeh - I should have been specific about the total number of minutes that they tried this rediculous tactical approach. A thousand apologies Well yeah, you should, considering it puts a different spin on your statement. I guess "They also played TWO STRIKERS up front in an away game. The sheer audacity of it. (for about ten minutes)" doesn't quite have the same ring to it? True - comments borne of frustration at our approach to todays game, and the selection of players that just don't help us to attack. Never mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2008 21:55:09 GMT
For all that though, we had far more chances than they did and missed four sitters. That ws the issue for me, as mediocre a performance as it was.
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 29, 2008 22:09:28 GMT
Swanland, it's not moaning chief, we're just fed up of how the media have portrayed you as some kind of saviour of the English game, whilst we are the spawn of satan. It kinds grates when you watch games and it's totally different to that. Like us, you play with no attacking width. Like us, you are solid and well-organised. Unlike us, you play pretty little triangles once in a blue moon that get you nowhere Unlike us, you don't have someone who can chuck the ball some distance Unlike you, we don't tend to use gamesmanship as our main tactic But the media don't want to see the above do they? The biggest difference between Stoke and Hull, is that we know exactly who we are. You're fast becoming next year's West Brom, with your moral footballing high ground nonsense. Stop fcuking rewriting history. I've said it before we are NOT responsible for how the press portray us. We know who and what we are! For fcuck sake we usually have 3 players in the side who were playing in the bottom division a few years ago. Plus we spent half what you did on the Summer. So instead of showing your jealousy, try showing some respect for what we have achieved. |
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Post by macmozzer on Nov 29, 2008 22:16:30 GMT
i've never had so much respect for a bunch of dickheads in all my life!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 22:15:22 GMT
Brown sets his teams up to cheat-that's the man for You and that's why I can't abide him.
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Post by serpico on Nov 29, 2008 22:16:05 GMT
Swanland, it's not moaning chief, we're just fed up of how the media have portrayed you as some kind of saviour of the English game, whilst we are the spawn of satan. It kinds grates when you watch games and it's totally different to that. Like us, you play with no attacking width. Like us, you are solid and well-organised. Unlike us, you play pretty little triangles once in a blue moon that get you nowhere Unlike us, you don't have someone who can chuck the ball some distance Unlike you, we don't tend to use gamesmanship as our main tactic But the media don't want to see the above do they? The biggest difference between Stoke and Hull, is that we know exactly who we are. You're fast becoming next year's West Brom, with your moral footballing high ground nonsense. Stop fcuking rewriting history. I've said it before we are NOT responsible for how the press portray us. We know who and what we are! For fcuck sake we usually have 3 players in the side who were playing in the bottom division a few years ago. Plus we spent half what you did on the Summer. So instead of showing your jealousy, try showing some respect for what we have achieved. It's not just the press though is it, your manager goes around saying "stoke play a certain way", in the most patronising manner possible, it's as if Hull play some style of football which is somehow light years away from how we play ??? , yet after watching Hull today, and a couple of other occasions, I can safely say you play just as many long balls as us, and got your goal from a lump into the box today as well. How many goal have you scored from set pieces ??? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 22:17:58 GMT
i've never had so much respect for a bunch of dickheads in all my life!!! ;D too true! Big respect to Hull for what they've done but their antics today were c**tish to say the least! |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 29, 2008 22:41:05 GMT
We play a similar kind of football. However, what stoke dont do is use underhand tactics. It was plainly obvious today that Hull are a cynical, underhanded and cheating football club. How many time was mama shoved in the back? How many times did their players go down when the heat was on, only to jump back up when their team won possession back or the game was stopped? The incident with Windarse blocking rory summed them up. Brown never stopped talking about how he didnt fear the throw in weapon, yet he made a deliberate attempt, that was against the rules, to try and stop the weapin being as devastating as we all know it can be. If Brown didnt order windarse to do that, then he deserves to be fined for a total lack of professionalism. The way in which their players demanded the towels used for Rory for every throw in they had, summed up by the behaviour of McShame at the end by rubbing his face all over it and then tossing the towel down as if to say "Fuck you". I wouldnt mind, but he is wank. So there you have it folks. Hull used underhanded and cynical tactics and stoke, quite simply, do not. I prefer our honest, hardworking approach thanks. SGS What a load of old cock. You sound just like Wenger. If Stoke were doing the same you would be hailing Pulis as some kind of Managerial God for adapting to the top league and fighting fire with fire. Stop moaning like the cheese eating surrender monkey and get on with it. |
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Post by macmozzer on Nov 29, 2008 23:03:34 GMT
yeh but tony would'nt do that!!!!!!!thats the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by big bea on Nov 30, 2008 12:50:06 GMT
best form of defence against the throw in is attack it seems, they left 3 up everytime. which ment we had to leave more back. teams may watch that and consider using them tactics????
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Post by stokebill on Nov 30, 2008 13:07:41 GMT
Stoke may have spent more than Hull in the summer, but once King and Zayatte (and McShane?) become permanent transfers we'll be pretty even. We have no players on loan.
Actually Stoke have a relatively deep squad as a result of the summer spending, our first choice XI cost £8.5m. Admittedly our one splurge on Premier League quality hasn't paid off (Kitson obviously) but this recurring theme that we're big spenders and should be playing total football, is way wide of the mark.
The only aspect of Hull's gamesmanship I had a problem with was the Windass incident. Straight out of the Neil Warnock school of football that was. I'd be a bit embarrassed if a Stoke player had done that. Towelgate was funny though.
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Post by daverichards on Nov 30, 2008 13:10:18 GMT
Luck, hull are a very lucky team , their players and manager should all do the lottery, and then retire with their winnings
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