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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2008 19:05:06 GMT
I know Tony's got his plan - battle for 40 points with his two banks of four BUT to me, Hull were there for the beating today
yep they're a decent side - well organized but more and more teams have now totally sussed our long throw tactic and to be brutally honest, our midfield looked sooo slow today, it was painful to watch. As for forward movement and passing - non existent for an hour
NOT GOOD ENOUGH TONE -WE NOW NEED TO SEE MORE FOOTBALL IN THE OPPOSITIONS HALF
I'll be much happier when the Likes of Tonge - probably the best fit footballer we presently have at the club and Glenn Whelan (who Trappatonio seems to think is OK) - actually get to start !
After today I feel for sure we are now playing games with even better players than we put in our first eleven - warming the bench
Salif Djao MoM - dont make me laugh !
Again -today the game turned when a ball player actually came on for us
Two or three times now this has happened - its obvious surely ?
Why dont we start like that ??????????????????
my feelings after the game
as for Hull - did Giovanni play ? and as for Barmby and Windass 10/10 for gamesmanship lads !
and oh! - 3 players stood on the goal line immediately before a penalty is actually more than 'stretching' the rules Phil !
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 19:09:19 GMT
I thought Diao played well! Made the tackles, passed the ball and played his role well until he got announced MOM. Whelan deserves a chance in place of Faye I think, we need to see something a bit more from the middle of the park and Faye scares the shit out of me whenever he has the ball.
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Post by mistersausage on Nov 29, 2008 19:14:15 GMT
Whelan and Tonge should start.Faye and Diao seem to do nothing and where they get his MOM from is beyond me.
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Post by lurcherman on Nov 29, 2008 19:16:44 GMT
We need a really energetic midfielder, one who is up supporting when we are attacking and back defending when needed.
One who can pick a pass and can chip in with a few goals.
May cost a bit, but these players do tend to gel the side into a team.
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Post by mermaidsal on Nov 29, 2008 19:18:21 GMT
Whelan should definitely have started today, no question.
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on Nov 29, 2008 19:34:55 GMT
sorry sal but ill question it.
i think people have forgotten how much we missed diao at times last season and how much we'd miss him if he wasn't there this season. his positional sense is exceptional IMO - no other player in our squad reads the game like he does, his tackling is sharp and his passing is concise, if uncomplicated.
saying that i do think we need a creative force in the middle - amdy is valued away from home, particularly at the bigger clubs where we risk losing out in midfield completely but a poor mans diao IMO playing next to diao, at home? a bit over cautious tp
ive tried to like oli, against villa he was immense - and i thought him and diao would be our central midfield for the rest of the season. but since then his ball retention has been woeful, he looks blinkered on the ball and doesnt move enough of it for someone who was bought as a box-to-box midfielder.
whelen was great last season - he can clearly pick a pass and find space but he also has a habit of looking lost when chasing the game, he's a little lightweight and tends to want to move out wide when what we need is for him to control the middle
on the other hand im starting to really like tonge. he seemed a bit blinkered earlier on in the season but was brilliant against the baggies when he came on and again today. excellant range of passing and a decent shot too. showed more of a willingness to get stuck in against the baggies and i hope that continues. whether he can sustain that over 90mins and run the show is yet to be seen, but im encouraged.
but for me theres only one player on the books who we know can run the game with his passing and crossing, will track back and defend and is a strong influence and voice in the midfield. his shakey start doesnt change the fact that we're still missing liam. whether its him or tonge who ends up running the show in the middle doesnt really matter TBH but sooner or later one of them will take it on and we'll see through the second half of the season with a bit more of a cutting edge.
i fucking hope so anyway, not sure i can take many more games like today or last week at home.
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 29, 2008 19:50:57 GMT
Diao wasn't great today, but on the whole he's been pretty good this season. What he needs is someone alongside him who can get up-and-down and make the odd thing happen in the other half of the field. Sadly, we haven't got that person at the club.  |
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Post by whelan_6 on Nov 29, 2008 19:55:05 GMT
imo whelan isnt the answer,although i agree he should be given a chance to prove himself,he never set the world on fire last season.
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Post by jbstokie on Nov 29, 2008 20:20:07 GMT
If they were good enough they'd be playing. Have faith
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 29, 2008 20:26:04 GMT
Diao wasn't great today, but on the whole he's been pretty good this season. What he needs is someone alongside him who can get up-and-down and make the odd thing happen in the other half of the field. Sadly, we haven't got that person at the club. True - but what did we splash out £3m (that's THREE MILLION ENGLISH POUNDS) on Olofinjana for? When you add up the £5.5m on Kitson, the £3m on Oli and the £2m on Sonko and Soares, it makes you a bit wary about what we might end up with in Jan. Does the inhibiting (but unquestionably effective) Pulis mould mean that we can never really utilise a creative central midfielder or a support striker whose main strengths are anything other than the nuts and bolts that Mama can provide? |
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