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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 17:41:43 GMT
Stoke were the better team all game, Hull had one real chance and scored it and credit to them for that. They played well but we were the better team and on the balance should have nicked a win. A draw was fair though. Geovanni was wank and I'm just thawing out now. The ref was shit too, he gave Hull everything but the peno was spot on. The foul Zayette did on Fuller was a booking-but nowt! HIs linesmen were wank too!
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Post by canaladict on Nov 29, 2008 17:46:07 GMT
I think Tango Man did a fair bit of reffing,
He was certainly influencing the refs decisions near the touch line.
Orange Wanker!
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Post by RICH68 on Nov 29, 2008 17:47:11 GMT
Yeah and the fifth official Phil `mahogany man` Brown got every decision he wanted every time he waved his arms at the ref
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Post by serpico on Nov 29, 2008 17:49:02 GMT
Le Tiss was a great player, his punditry/calling on games is woeful, and he clearly doesn't like Stoke.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 17:52:11 GMT
What got me is that he said Hull deserved to win it on the balance of play. They played neat football but created very little and we had a 2/3 good chanced that once again we bloody squandered!
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Post by Irish Stokie on Nov 29, 2008 18:01:24 GMT
Ye he is wank at calling the games. We were by far the better side with the better chances but as per usual wont get the plaudits and i assume the papers will have us down s the killers of the beautiful game or some shite along those lines
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Post by fca47 on Nov 29, 2008 18:13:17 GMT
I think much the better side is bigging it a bit. We had better situations but didn't make the most of them. But like you say they only had two shots the whole game. We seemed to lack any sense of urgency. I feared the worst, they had had one shot and score but we had about three situations where we should have done better. But I am relieved we managed to get the point.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 29, 2008 18:58:09 GMT
What got me is that he said Hull deserved to win it on the balance of play. They played neat football but created very little and we had a 2/3 good chanced that once again we bloody squandered! He actually said it was a fair result, but Hull maybe edged it due to the football they played. He also said Stoke were the more likely to go down out of the two teams because they lack quality in midfield and the way we play - like that or not it is absolutely spot on in my opinion. It's an opinion mate, get over it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2008 19:00:25 GMT
I thought both teams were poor, don't know how he can say they edged it when they had one shot all game and we missed about four gilt-edged chances.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 19:00:47 GMT
Well I think he was wrong, Hull played better football but f**k all with it. We had the chances but just didn't convert them-that's how I judge on who should have edged it. Just because they passed it nice doesn't mean they edged it! I thought his analysis was poor.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 29, 2008 19:06:18 GMT
Well I think he was wrong, Hull played better football but f**k all with it. We had the chances but just didn't convert them-that's how I judge on who should have edged it. Just because they passed it nice doesn't mean they edged it! I thought his analysis was poor. That's fair enough - probably on a knife edge. Watch it on telly and you think Hull deserved it, watch it live with all the emotion and you see it the other way. As for the penalty - watch the video - it's dodgy and I would have been a little annoyed if this was against Stoke. A defo 'homer' penalty. Shit spot kick from Ricardo as well but it went in and that's all that matters.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 19:12:32 GMT
No I won't I didn't think Hul were anything special, they played well but didn't create f**k all. They had one shot and scored. Mcshance and Zayette were terrible and we didn't exploit them enough. I thought we deserved edge it just. Hull did nowt bar the goal to make me think they deserved to win it. Our main problem today was ourselves and how we fail to convert chances.
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Post by growler on Nov 29, 2008 20:42:52 GMT
Gleghorn's view on Radio Stoke was very similar to Le Tiss. You must be very easily pleased Bayern, we have a decent goalkeeper, central defenders (Faye and Shawcross, not Cort), and a good striker in Fuller but we are woefully let down in midfield and on the flanks. The lack of creativity and pace is obvious.
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Post by white wall boy on Nov 29, 2008 20:49:04 GMT
I think a point each is a fair result, a good battle in midfield with two very strong defensive set ups. We lacked that creativity and though Hell passed it around alittle more than use neither side stood out as deserving all three points. On a different day either side could have shaded it but today neither were really at the races up front
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 20:49:53 GMT
Growler-I agree we lack those things but we still created the chances to win the game and we did more than Hull. That's my point, Hull played well but saying they deserved to win is propostrous imo. If anyone did, we did but a draw was fair, that's what I'm saying.
As for today I enjoyed it still because we are creating chances, we just aren't converting them which is a worry. I love blood and thunder games like today and last week. I get as much enjoyment out of them as I do when we play really well, but that's just how I like my football. For me watching two committed teams going hell for leather is great and I thought we got that today.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2008 21:26:35 GMT
As poor as we were, what basis on planet earth and the crab nebula beyond is there for saying Hull deserved to win, given they had one serious shot on goal in the entire game?
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 29, 2008 21:34:08 GMT
Well I think he was wrong, Hull played better football but f**k all with it. We had the chances but just didn't convert them-that's how I judge on who should have edged it. Just because they passed it nice doesn't mean they edged it! I thought his analysis was poor. That's fair enough - probably on a knife edge. Watch it on telly and you think Hull deserved it, watch it live with all the emotion and you see it the other way. As for the penalty - watch the video - it's dodgy and I would have been a little annoyed if this was against Stoke. A defo 'homer' penalty. Shit spot kick from Ricardo as well but it went in and that's all that matters. Got to say I did cringe a bit as he went down. Delighted he got the penalty and that it somehow ended up in the goal, but it won't do us any favours when we criticise the likes of Ronaldo, Walcott and Heskey. I'd like to see it again from closer in to decide if the goalkeeper catches him or not. The referee can't have been that sure because surely he'd have booked Myhill?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 21:36:53 GMT
That's fair enough - probably on a knife edge. Watch it on telly and you think Hull deserved it, watch it live with all the emotion and you see it the other way. As for the penalty - watch the video - it's dodgy and I would have been a little annoyed if this was against Stoke. A defo 'homer' penalty. Shit spot kick from Ricardo as well but it went in and that's all that matters. Got to say I did cringe a bit as he went down. Delighted he got the penalty and that it somehow ended up in the goal, but it won't do us any favours when we criticise the likes of Ronaldo, Walcott and Heskey. I'd like to see it again from closer in to decide if the goalkeeper catches him or not. The referee can't have been that sure because surely he'd have booked Myhill? He did!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2008 21:39:01 GMT
I was in the west stand so perhaps didn't have the best view, but it looked a hugelydodgy penalty to me. Ricci went down very theatrically.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 29, 2008 21:38:14 GMT
That's fair enough - probably on a knife edge. Watch it on telly and you think Hull deserved it, watch it live with all the emotion and you see it the other way. As for the penalty - watch the video - it's dodgy and I would have been a little annoyed if this was against Stoke. A defo 'homer' penalty. Shit spot kick from Ricardo as well but it went in and that's all that matters. Got to say I did cringe a bit as he went down. Delighted he got the penalty and that it somehow ended up in the goal, but it won't do us any favours when we criticise the likes of Ronaldo, Walcott and Heskey. I'd like to see it again from closer in to decide if the goalkeeper catches him or not. The referee can't have been that sure because surely he'd have booked Myhill? I thought he did book Myhill, just before Fuller took the penalty? ???
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Post by bogus on Nov 29, 2008 21:47:50 GMT
From block 31 of the Seddon, which was a view directly behind the run Fuller made across the keeper, it did look like Myhill made contact.
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Post by canaladict on Nov 29, 2008 21:51:15 GMT
I watched it on the net, stone wall peno IMHO Ricki knocked the bal past Myhill and he took his back leg, Ok he may have left it in but hey how many times has it happened to us. It was stated by the comentator the keeper only stayed on because Ricki was going wide of the goal.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 21:52:40 GMT
From where I sit (block 28) I was up instantly as I saw a touch on Fuller by Myhill.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 29, 2008 21:53:55 GMT
Sorry, missed the booking. Just seen it myself on the BBC.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 23:11:52 GMT
Pugsley-just watched MOTD, it looked like we murdered them! I know we didn't but going off watching it off the tv I have no reason to change my mind!
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 29, 2008 23:16:33 GMT
The editor is a Stokie!!!!
Obviously Stoke had the chances, Hull had the possession. It's plain that pundits don't like the way we play. It's their opinion.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2008 23:19:32 GMT
It was 50/50 possession too!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2008 23:34:40 GMT
The editor is a Stokie!!!! Obviously Stoke had the chances, Hull had the possession. It's plain that pundits don't like the way we play. It's their opinion. Fuck the pundits. It's not Strictly Come Dancing. We had far more chances than they did, they had one real shot and scored. Fair play to them. I didn't think it was a pen at the time, having watched MOTD, I think the ref was right.
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Post by plug on Nov 30, 2008 2:03:05 GMT
What is it with Le Tossier?
Sounded delighted when Hull scored on Sky Sports. The twat.
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Post by Akinbadbuy on Nov 30, 2008 4:36:49 GMT
Didn't agree with him saying Hull deserved to win the game but I did agree with what he said about us lacking quality.
We are scraping results at the moment which some may say is the sign of a good team playing not that good and still getting a result, but if we take fuller out of the equation we pretty much have nothing. We could have easily got beat today and having looked at the penalty decision many times I honestly think we got lucky as it looked a total dive from Fuller. Our away performances have been woeful so our only hope of staying up is to have one hell of a home record. Be interesting to see who we sign in January. Just hope we can do it!!!
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