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Post by vestanpance on Nov 28, 2008 11:47:38 GMT
I do think we're overdoing the Phil Brown stuff to be honest.
He's the first manager since we have been in the League to give a genuine appraisal of our side, yet still he's pilloried (for having an excessive tan)
I don't get the hatred, i think Hull have done great from the start and he deserves a great deal of plaudits for going away and having a go at sides. Aside from the absurd hue of his skin, he's doing a great job and fair play to him.
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Post by whitehurst on Nov 28, 2008 11:47:58 GMT
I'm sure that's what I said dexter.
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Post by dexter97 on Nov 28, 2008 11:50:25 GMT
I don't know Dexter,I was trying to make sense of it,maybe it was Palace when you drew Palace beat us 2-1 actually! There was a period towards the back end of the season when it did look like we'd bottled it (Blackpool and Palace at home, Sheff Weds away), but then we beat Coventry, Bristol and Colchester in the last few games, so our tails were well up by that time.
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Post by petemac on Nov 28, 2008 11:50:18 GMT
Well I'm sure if he had been more respectful last season when he made those comments after us beating Colchester then this hatred would not be around. He did it on purpose and mean't a dig at Stoke, no sugar coating please.
That alone has given me enough to go on.
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Post by whitehurst on Nov 28, 2008 11:56:16 GMT
Yes and funnily enough ours went down,lost at Sheffield and Ipswich,we only regained our confidence in the play offs,so if it was mind games,they were shit!
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Post by northstokie on Nov 28, 2008 12:34:13 GMT
He really is a tool - the man has no class whatsoever...
His remarks after the colchester game and his smugness so far this season is reason enough to create instense dislike but then to belittle one of our strengths saying he is better but doesn't have to prove it cos we're better is nothing short of pathetic - funny how he nebver mentioned it when he was on MOTD with TP and they were all studying it isn't it?
Twat
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Post by Davef on Nov 28, 2008 12:38:43 GMT
So let me get this right...
The manager of the team with the best record of scoring from corners (you know them, when the ball comes over and one of your big players heads it into the net), has a player who can throw the ball farther than Rory Delap (who throws the ball over for one of our big players to head it into the net) and he doesn't use it?
As Albert Steptoe would say: "Cobblers!"
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Post by knowles on Nov 28, 2008 12:48:21 GMT
Brown is a wise man- he decided not to bid more than £2.5 million for Kitson.
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Post by rumpleforeskin on Nov 28, 2008 12:51:34 GMT
So let me get this right... The manager of the team with the best record of scoring from corners (you know them, when the ball comes over and one of your big players heads it into the net), has a player who can throw the ball farther than Rory Delap (who throws the ball over for one of our big players to head it into the net) and he doesn't use it? As Albert Steptoe would say: "Cobblers!" Maybe it's because the guy who can throw a long ball is also responsible for heading goals from corners, he can't be in two places at once now can he ?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 28, 2008 12:56:35 GMT
So let me get this right... The manager of the team with the best record of scoring from corners (you know them, when the ball comes over and one of your big players heads it into the net), has a player who can throw the ball farther than Rory Delap (who throws the ball over for one of our big players to head it into the net) and he doesn't use it? As Albert Steptoe would say: "Cobblers!" Maybe it's because the guy who can throw a long ball is also responsible for heading goals from corners, he can't be in two places at once now can he ? So what you're saying is, that it's better to have your best header in the box and not throw it long than have other players who can head a ball (presumably) and let him take it? Sounds like bullshit to me.
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Post by whitehurst on Nov 28, 2008 13:36:35 GMT
He really is a tool - the man has no class whatsoever... His remarks after the colchester game and his smugness so far this season is reason enough to create instense dislike but then to belittle one of our strengths saying he is better but doesn't have to prove it cos we're better is nothing short of pathetic - funny how he nebver mentioned it when he was on MOTD with TP and they were all studying it isn't it? Twat I hope "Twat" was your signature. Can't see what you mean when you say "belittle",he did say it might be bad tactics on his part not to use it.He also didn't say he was better.Smugness is your opinion,I personally don't see it.Your post is a work of fiction.
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Post by suttontiger on Nov 28, 2008 13:39:56 GMT
He really is a tool - the man has no class whatsoever... His remarks after the colchester game and his smugness so far this season is reason enough to create instense dislike but then to belittle one of our strengths saying he is better but doesn't have to prove it cos we're better is nothing short of pathetic - funny how he nebver mentioned it when he was on MOTD with TP and they were all studying it isn't it? Twat Read that back to yourself, you sound ridiculous
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Post by vestanpance on Nov 28, 2008 13:44:08 GMT
Hull-ites,
Aside from my personal opinion that the Brown nonsense has gone a bit far, given your propensity to score from set-piece play (specifically corners), it is, you have to admit, fucking stupid to claim to have a long throw "expert" and then not utilise it, wouldn't you say?
I'm not saying there is some skewed opinions being spouted, but that statement is absolute fucking shite lads, you must see that?
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Nov 28, 2008 13:45:56 GMT
I sensed a touch of arrogance about him. Confidence is one thing losing touch with reality is another. On the other hand, TP comes across as a bit too humble and over-respectful at times (unless he's talking about WBA ). I made the point last week that Brown always has the air of someone who has his eye on bigger fish than Hull (no disrespect) to manage and perhaps this is what comes across in his interviews.
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Post by whitehurst on Nov 28, 2008 13:50:07 GMT
Hull-ites, Aside from my personal opinion that the Brown nonsense has gone a bit far, given your propensity to score from set-piece play (specifically corners), it is, you have to admit, fucking stupid to claim to have a long throw "expert" and then not utilise it, wouldn't you say? I'm not saying there is some skewed opinions being spouted, but that statement is absolute fucking shite lads, you must see that? PB himself said you might say it's bad tactics on his part not to use it.Secondly it's not the arrowlike throw of Delap,it's more loopy if you like,not the same threat and thirdly,the man who scores from our set pieces more than anyone else is the man with the throw.Shame he can't run faster than the ball eh,now that would be impressive.
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Post by suttontiger on Nov 28, 2008 13:58:09 GMT
Hull-ites, Aside from my personal opinion that the Brown nonsense has gone a bit far, given your propensity to score from set-piece play (specifically corners), it is, you have to admit, fucking stupid to claim to have a long throw "expert" and then not utilise it, wouldn't you say? I'm not saying there is some skewed opinions being spouted, but that statement is absolute fucking shite lads, you must see that? Was it not just a tongue-in-cheek comment? As someone else mentioned, its not just about how far its thrown, but how its delivered. Maybe Turner doesn't have the same technique as Delap? Some of you take things so seriously, Brown was bound to get asked about Delap's throw, he wasn't being disrespectful. I think whatever comments he makes, someone on here will invent a conspiracy theory. Phil Brown has a sense of humor, some of you should take lessons from him
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Post by vestanpance on Nov 28, 2008 14:03:09 GMT
Boys,
I didn't think it was disrespectful, i just thought it was a bit stupid. If Tony Pulis said "we could play better than Man United if we wanted to, we just can't be bothered", you'd probably thinkg the same thing.
All the best anyway, sincerely. I hope we are both in the league come August & i believe brown, despite his occassional lapses into verbal diaorrea, is a top top manager.
Bar the times we cross swords, i wish you nothing but well. Safe trip down....
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 28, 2008 15:03:07 GMT
Hull-ites, Aside from my personal opinion that the Brown nonsense has gone a bit far, given your propensity to score from set-piece play (specifically corners), it is, you have to admit, fucking stupid to claim to have a long throw "expert" and then not utilise it, wouldn't you say? I'm not saying there is some skewed opinions being spouted, but that statement is absolute fucking shite lads, you must see that? Was it not just a tongue-in-cheek comment? As someone else mentioned, its not just about how far its thrown, but how its delivered. Maybe Turner doesn't have the same technique as Delap? Some of you take things so seriously, Brown was bound to get asked about Delap's throw, he wasn't being disrespectful. I think whatever comments he makes, someone on here will invent a conspiracy theory. Phil Brown has a sense of humor, some of you should take lessons from him "Stoke were winning at Colchester and thought they had one foot in the Prem and when we scored i could see the smiles being wiped off the faces of the Stoke fans it was music to my ears". Perhaps thats why so many don't like your Phil.
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 28, 2008 15:06:33 GMT
He really is a tool - the man has no class whatsoever... His remarks after the colchester game and his smugness so far this season is reason enough to create instense dislike but then to belittle one of our strengths saying he is better but doesn't have to prove it cos we're better is nothing short of pathetic - funny how he nebver mentioned it when he was on MOTD with TP and they were all studying it isn't it? Twat Read that back to yourself, you sound ridiculous This thread reminds me of the Ferguson v Keegan (non) fight where Ferguson threw a comment into the ring and watched from afar as Keegan blew a gasket! Nice! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 28, 2008 15:08:35 GMT
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 28, 2008 15:12:11 GMT
Hull-ites, Aside from my personal opinion that the Brown nonsense has gone a bit far, given your propensity to score from set-piece play (specifically corners), it is, you have to admit, fucking stupid to claim to have a long throw "expert" and then not utilise it, wouldn't you say? I'm not saying there is some skewed opinions being spouted, but that statement is absolute fucking shite lads, you must see that? Was it not just a tongue-in-cheek comment? As someone else mentioned, its not just about how far its thrown, but how its delivered. Maybe Turner doesn't have the same technique as Delap? Some of you take things so seriously, Brown was bound to get asked about Delap's throw, he wasn't being disrespectful. I think whatever comments he makes, someone on here will invent a conspiracy theory. Phil Brown has a sense of humor, some of you should take lessons from him "Was it not just a tongue-in-cheek comment?" Absolutely not he was deadly serious! (Come on Sutton we can keep this going for weeks!! ;D ;D ;D)
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Post by northstokie on Nov 28, 2008 15:19:52 GMT
Love the way you spend all your time on here - see you all tomorrow, or will you be sat in your armchair?
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Post by whitehurst on Nov 28, 2008 15:44:16 GMT
Was it not just a tongue-in-cheek comment? As someone else mentioned, its not just about how far its thrown, but how its delivered. Maybe Turner doesn't have the same technique as Delap? Some of you take things so seriously, Brown was bound to get asked about Delap's throw, he wasn't being disrespectful. I think whatever comments he makes, someone on here will invent a conspiracy theory. Phil Brown has a sense of humor, some of you should take lessons from him "Stoke were winning at Colchester and thought they had one foot in the Prem and when we scored i could see the smiles being wiped off the faces of the Stoke fans it was music to my ears". Perhaps thats why so many don't like your Phil. Ah yes that was funny as......well probably our faces when Ipswich scored on the last day.It was a great shot though,especially the curly haired lad in the Stoke top.But if that's all you've got after the hundreds of interviews he's done then he can't be all that bad. Looking forward to a reet scrap tomorrow,our bruisers v your bruisers,our set pieces v your set pieces,our bit of Geovanni quality v errr yours. ;D No,seriously this will be a real tough game and I'm kinda looking forward to it but the weather might be a bit grim,let's hope the game isn't.
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Post by swanlandtiger on Nov 28, 2008 16:21:40 GMT
Love the way you spend all your time on here - see you all tomorrow, or will you be sat in your armchair? I'll be at home watching on tinternet..........wouldn't want to catch anything.
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Post by GrandStokie on Nov 28, 2008 16:26:32 GMT
I sensed a touch of arrogance about him. Confidence is one thing losing touch with reality is another. On the other hand, TP comes across as a bit too humble and over-respectful at times (unless he's talking about WBA ). I made the point last week that Brown always has the air of someone who has his eye on bigger fish than Hull (no disrespect) to manage and perhaps this is what comes across in his interviews. I agree Pulis can come across that way and the Utd game was a prime example, but he isn't setting himself up for fall if it all goes tits up. I get the impression Phil Brown thinks Hull will remain in the top half of the table for the rest of the season which all seems a bit too comfortable for me and a bit over confident.
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Post by Soi Cowboy on Nov 28, 2008 16:38:40 GMT
Maybe if the chap could throw the ball really high into the air, run real fast into the box and get on the end of it himself. Just a thought
Personally don't see what the problem is with Hull- all this crap we got pre season, how all 3 will go down, WBA might stay up etc etc and us and Hull are now sticking it to the so called experts. Is great to see.
Look at the Roy Keanes etc shelling out 70 odd million and what he has- we both have teams who battle for 90 minutes and our fans are very proud of and rightly so
Good on us both- feels good being in the Prem so far
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Post by Strange Boy on Nov 28, 2008 17:21:30 GMT
I have no problem at all with PB. From things I've read he has always been positive about Stoke which is more than can be said for some people.
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Post by mistersausage on Nov 28, 2008 18:06:56 GMT
Interesting stat in there. You've lost 7 out of 7 when you have conceded first. Suggests maybe a few heads go down, but if you score first its the opposite. We tend to raise our game when we go behind. Lots of opposites in this game make it really hard to predict Well one thing we can predict is that your manager is a tango faced twat ;D
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Post by stokeoptimist on Nov 28, 2008 18:24:49 GMT
Would be nice if the media gave the Long throw hype a rest for a bit, why not mention the neat one two passing move for the goal against WBA or the 14 passes that lead up to the winning goal against Spurs, or even god forbid the goal of the month that Riccy scored against Villa.
Then again if it distracts teams from the fact that we can actually play flowing attacking football---Hype away.
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Post by truckerged on Nov 28, 2008 18:30:27 GMT
sick of drawing against these twats its time we sent them packing back up to that shit hole with their tails between their legs!1 and of course he has somebody who can outdo rory he also has a striker in reserve who iis gauranteed 25 premiership goals between now and end of season. methinks all that fake tan has addled his brain. and if that fat twat windbag plays tommorow i think i may vent my spleen!!
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