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Post by AlanHansen on Nov 23, 2008 12:17:32 GMT
We kept a clean sheet again yesterday but that was probably more to do with WBA not wanting to win the game.
For me Griff is the weak link in the defence, he's slow and his distribution has was again poor and he doesn't get down the line like Higgy does. Hopefully he will be replaced by Davies (If Daves is all he's cracked up to be).
If this does happen it leaves the little matter of who will be the next team captain, I suspect Griff would retain the club captain role?
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 23, 2008 12:18:37 GMT
Hanson, are you watching the same team as me? Griff has been superb!! Get a grip son! He wont be dropped!
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Post by mamasbitch on Nov 23, 2008 12:18:48 GMT
DISAGREE
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 23, 2008 12:20:48 GMT
I'll wait until I see Davies in action before I give Giff's place to him. But, if he does displace Griff then, as you said, I leave Griff as club captain. Higgy I think has now done enough to reclaim the team captaincy. It would have been wrong for him to get it when he first came back but he has served his time now and is assured of his place so he'd make the ideal captain.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 23, 2008 12:22:12 GMT
Fullersbitch, with me?
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Post by cymap on Nov 23, 2008 12:22:32 GMT
Bloody Hell Hanson, Griff was absolutely superb yesterday . Infact I would say apart from 1 mistake (trying to be a bit cocky) he was my MOM.
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Post by sheikh al dubai bin stokie on Nov 23, 2008 12:22:43 GMT
griff wasnt great yesterday, but taking the whole season into account, I think he's been excellent
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Nov 23, 2008 12:24:04 GMT
Griff played quality yesterday defensively.
he even had ronaldo in his pocket all game agenst manure...but if that means hes shit, then he must be sit, Nt many right backs will give ronaldo as little room and time than griff did
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 23, 2008 12:25:15 GMT
Griff wasnt great yesterday??? What? He was MOM apart from the one mistake? Do you people actually go to the game?
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Post by AlanHansen on Nov 23, 2008 12:26:05 GMT
It's all about opinions, as the thread so far suggests. Faye and Shawcross look solid in the middle, Higgy has been outstanding on the left (not his preferred position), so if Davies is to play then right back seems the most viable option.
Cort and Sonko are going to have to try and grab a place in the middle, as and when the chance presents itself and Dicko and Wilko will have to fight for the scraps.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 23, 2008 12:27:46 GMT
It is about opinion but what is Griff doing wrong? Absolutely nothing! Get a grip fella!
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Post by walrus on Nov 23, 2008 12:29:03 GMT
Griff has been good this season. Hes coped far better with the Premier League than I or anyone expected. There's no grounds at all to drop him. He did make that one mistake to give Teixeira the ball when he wasted the chance but we'll forgive him for that.
I'm not sure he's the best captain though. Higgy seems like the leader on the pitch to me.
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Post by th05 on Nov 23, 2008 12:29:15 GMT
No, Griffin has been brilliant.
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Post by bentrep01 on Nov 23, 2008 12:30:17 GMT
Did I miss something or has he not actually played for us yet? ???
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Post by Bick on Nov 23, 2008 12:30:22 GMT
Griff has been ace, but weak yesterday. HIGGY FOR CAP
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 23, 2008 12:31:16 GMT
Griff was weak yesterday? Honestly I laugh out loud when I hear comments like that!
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Post by mamasbitch on Nov 23, 2008 12:32:45 GMT
griff has bin immense since the bolton game
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Post by 16quidachuck on Nov 23, 2008 12:34:01 GMT
i for one wanted griff dropped and still feel any bad game he has i will get on his back but he has been consistantly good. only criticism is he isnt as good as higgy goin forward.
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Post by sheikh al dubai bin stokie on Nov 23, 2008 12:41:42 GMT
Griff wasnt great yesterday??? What? He was MOM apart from the one mistake? Do you people actually go to the game? bit difficult due to distance, but i watch every game, live, home and away with the benefit of skyplus type technology... look, its an opinion.. i think he's been in great form all season.. just yesterday i felt he was lacking a bit of vision |
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Post by leekstokietommo on Nov 23, 2008 13:18:10 GMT
To be honest the defence as coped very well this season,(apart from man ure) we kept adebayor,Bendtnar+ van persie quiet ,, Cisse and Kenwyne quiet, Heskey + Zaki quiet , Torres and Keane ,,so Davies must wait for his opportunity,,
The midfield look solid and with tonge and soares to come on or start at home we have got pace and width,with lenny still to come back,,,Mama playing out of his skin and fuller scoring, we just need adaquate cover up front,,, well im happy anyway,just my oppinion like
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Post by hutchstokie1 on Nov 23, 2008 13:23:37 GMT
Thought griffin was brill again just had that 1 moment of madness near the end of the game but thankfully the chance was blazed over, griffs form the last 6-8 as been greatly improved and deserves to be captain well done andy.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2008 13:26:41 GMT
Griff has been superb this season!
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Post by barndoorbanjo on Nov 23, 2008 13:26:56 GMT
Complete and utter b******s.
Griffin is a contender for player of the season so far.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 23, 2008 13:30:38 GMT
Another really good game bar one slip, otherwise defensively very sound. In an ideal world he would work the line a bit more but Davies won't do that anyway.
Griff and Higgy have been excellent at full-back and our back four is looking capable of keeping clean sheets against most of the teams outside the top four now.
Talking of Higgy, he has been absolutely top class since returning and I would hope all those who doubted him (and bizarrely wanted Dicko to start instead) will agree now as well.
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Post by mermaidsal on Nov 23, 2008 13:35:14 GMT
Nearer the start of the season I'd have agreed with Lakeland but Griff's form's been a revelation since, and the armband's doing him and the team spirit nothing but good - to change captain at this point in the season would be insane imho. And he was fine yesterday, Alan were we watching the same game??
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Post by serpico on Nov 23, 2008 13:36:54 GMT
Yeh, barring that one blip near to the end, which could really have been catastrophic, he was solid throughout, not done anything to deserve being dropped thats for sure.
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 23, 2008 13:37:13 GMT
imo Grffin has been one of Stoke's best and most consistent players all season
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Post by gordonmarshall on Nov 23, 2008 13:47:36 GMT
Griff fully deserves both to be in the team and also be captian,if we had to vote for player of the season so far Griff would get my vote.
And to be honest i really doubted he would be good enough this season,even more so after Bolton.But he along with the team have improved since that day.
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 23, 2008 14:51:08 GMT
Griff has been arguably our 2nd best defender this season (behind Ab Faye). The boo boys seem to be keeping his as there scape goat due to a few poor performances last season. Hes made no major mistakes to deserve the drop, so his spot in the team is safe
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Post by RICH68 on Nov 23, 2008 15:21:27 GMT
Agree Griff should be captain.A couple of years down the line I think Shawcross will more than fill the captains boots.Gets better with every game
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