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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 20, 2008 8:36:18 GMT
I notice, ex Stokie, Vass was not in the Hungary squad last night. A year back he was pretty much a regular fixture in the side. Anyone know if his absence was down to injury, loss of form or any other reason?
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 20, 2008 8:45:47 GMT
He wasn't playing because Tony Pulis broke his spirit.
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 20, 2008 10:01:51 GMT
he just aint good enough to get in.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 20, 2008 12:36:07 GMT
He is in and out of the Brescia team at the minute. And Hungary have a new manager that may not want to play him so I wouldn't write him off yet!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 20, 2008 12:40:16 GMT
I just knew bayern would come up with some good info. Did Brescia get promoted last summer? I know I should know the answer but I am ashamed to say that I don't.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 20, 2008 12:49:38 GMT
No they didn't, I don't know how well they're doing this season but I'll check.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 20, 2008 12:52:01 GMT
I'd have thought he would have been world player of the year by now, I always thought Norbert Zsivoczky was the better bet.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 20, 2008 12:52:08 GMT
They're mid-table but only 5 points off the top. They narrowly missed out on the play-offs last season.
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Post by RAF on Nov 20, 2008 12:55:42 GMT
No he was pipped into third place by Vincent Periwinkle (2nd) and Paul Williams (1st) H
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Post by rawli on Nov 20, 2008 13:02:07 GMT
Lakeland, can we have an update on Anthony Pulis, the midfielder we kept rather than Vass, as well please, you pompous get.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 20, 2008 13:05:24 GMT
No he was pipped into third place by Vincent Periwinkle (2nd) and Paul Williams (1st) H It was that promising youngster with a devastating (ly bad) range of passing, Dave Brammer, who kept him out of the first team picture for the most part wasn't it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 13:10:38 GMT
Lakeland, can we have an update on Anthony Pulis, the midfielder we kept rather than Vass, as well please, you pompous get. Looking like we were right not to hang on to either of them.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 20, 2008 13:12:00 GMT
rawli - what are you on about? If you think I didn't rate Vass you couldn't be wider of the mark. I watched him in a couple of games for the Academy and watched the video of his debut for Hungary and (like Bayern above) was very impressed. I also met him a couple of times and had a chat - the last time was after he made his one appearance on the bench for the first team. I was gutted when he chose to leave. If he has lost his Hungary place then I am surprised. If he had stayed I hope he would have been getting a few starts by now. I thought he had a great future - so I think it is too early to say we did well to allow him to go. Certainly he was/is ten times the player little Ant is.
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Post by rawli on Nov 20, 2008 13:14:04 GMT
Whoops - thought you were having one of your usual digs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 13:14:59 GMT
Whoops - thought you were having one of your usual digs. Interesting "apology"
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 20, 2008 13:16:33 GMT
rawli - I've read my first post again and it doesn't read like a dig to me. Bayern and I had quite a bit of correspondence at the time about how good we thought Vass was. If he had stayed we'd probably have volunteered to be secretary and treasurer of his fan club. ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 20, 2008 13:17:46 GMT
Indeed! ;D
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Post by simpson on Nov 20, 2008 15:47:05 GMT
how much did we get for vass?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 20, 2008 18:19:52 GMT
For young players who move between countries without an agreed transfer fee there is a UEFA formula used to decide on the compensation. I don't know what it is but I do remember reading that it wasn't very much. £200k ish or something of that order.
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Post by stokecity4eva on Nov 20, 2008 18:40:13 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 20, 2008 19:00:08 GMT
I think the official site may be ever so slightly out of date on the subject of Vass's compo.
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Post by stokecity4eva on Nov 20, 2008 19:06:49 GMT
thats what i was thinking but it has pattos compo on. they might just not want us to know how much they received due to it being such a lowamount
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Post by padders01 on Nov 20, 2008 19:27:10 GMT
Where is mongo? Mongo stated that this guy would be a international regular for Hungary, oh dear oh dear, wrong again
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 20, 2008 19:35:28 GMT
Padders, I am sure Vass will become a regular in Italy and on the international front. I had the pleasure of living with both Norbert and Vassy, and Norbert was the better player. In fact he was the most skillful player I have ever seen. Vass had the simplicity effect tho. Everything he did was simple and effective. Remember Adam Fekete, lived with him too. Great lad but unfortunately my wife is a better footballer! Norbert still plays for Ferencvaros and is doing very well!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 20, 2008 19:57:17 GMT
Vass has played 4 times for Hungary in this campaign so I think that evaluation is tad unfair Padders! And at the age of 20 has 11 caps!
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Post by padders01 on Nov 20, 2008 20:06:10 GMT
not a go at Vass, more at mongo
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 20, 2008 20:07:26 GMT
I have found out the reason he didn't play last night. They have 2 better players currently in that position apparently.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 20, 2008 20:27:10 GMT
Why did Norbert leave and go back to Hungary?
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 20, 2008 21:06:12 GMT
Because his attitude was all wrong!! He wouldnt try. When Stoke signed him, nothing was too much for Stoke. They paid for everything for him and his parents. They even signed Adam Fekete to help him settle in. (Used him really) Stoke really thought they had unearthed an amazing Gem and thought he was going to be a world beater. Unfortunately women were more important to him!
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Post by tazi on Nov 20, 2008 21:58:35 GMT
Lakeland, can we have an update on Anthony Pulis, the midfielder we kept rather than Vass, as well please, you pompous get. Anthony Pulis is house hunting and was looking at a house that has a shared drive at a cost of £315,000 but one without a shared drive was around £350,000. This was a little too much due to Anthony having to take a wage drop due to joining Southampton but his dad had offered to help him out. Useless info but at least it's the truth and you did ask.
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