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Post by frasiertruffles on Nov 19, 2008 12:32:38 GMT
I think i agree with Momo. Its a shame because i always thought danny would come good.
Good luck to him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2008 12:34:49 GMT
I would have thought we would hold off on a major clear-out until the summer (when we will know which division we are playing in next time). I guess Pugh might be let go in Jan (if we can get back the £500k we paid) and Pericant (if anyone wants him), but I reckon Cresser, Whelan (unless a really good offer comes in), Wilko & Dicko will hang around until July (at least). (Tone, sell his beloved Richard ... come on!) ah
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 19, 2008 12:34:48 GMT
He hasn't gone anywhere yet. Ronaldo spent all summer declaring his love for Real but hes still at Man Ure. Just because a player wants to go doesn't mean he will go. Although in this case I hope he does for his own career and will wish him luck if he moves on
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 19, 2008 12:36:47 GMT
Davies can take the position of Wilko (young defender who can play anywhere across the back) when fit
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Post by knowles on Nov 19, 2008 12:45:51 GMT
The thing with Vince is that at the moment, if we were to get rid of him, it would leave us extremely light in the striking department. Yes, I know you will say that he doesn't offer anything anyway but his performances for the reserves have been impressive (not that he continued that form against Rotherham).
On Saturday he will be our third choice striker (assuming Cressy is to be considered a winger). That is rather frightening and goes to highlight the need to purchase another forward in January.
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Post by kevkj on Nov 19, 2008 12:46:48 GMT
I thought that Pugh and Whelan bought the best out of Kitson the other night. They linked up well with him and plenty of balls to feet, which he needs, IMHO. Obviously, it was against lower division opposition and I'm not necessarily saying that they would do it at Prem level although, as northantash states, he's never let us down and not really had a chance to see. More to the point, I suppose. Who in the midfield for Saturday will be playing the balls into Kitson's feet? Spot on Bogus. Kitson,whelan and Soares would all be in my team for Baggies
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 19, 2008 12:48:33 GMT
Well yes Knowlesy but were talking here about in January. So we'd buy a striker, probably inevitable anyway, then get rid of Vince.
I've always tried to defend Vince but it just appears his head isn't up for a fight so he's never going to get a chance
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Post by knowles on Nov 19, 2008 12:52:37 GMT
Yes, every interview Vince gives and every time I've spoken to him he "want's a new contract". What about the past two years of shit he has given us?! You need to put in the work over a longer period than just a few months before sitting down at a table with a pen and paper.
I really do fear about Davies. After the Arsenal reserve match he could barely walk- he looked so unfit it wasn't funny. He has now had this 'minor' operation but that was about six weeks ago and we have absolutely no idea of when he will come back.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 19, 2008 12:53:45 GMT
Graham Shaw is also a solicitor.. is that for Beswicks too?
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Post by boothenpaddock86 on Nov 19, 2008 13:17:41 GMT
from what i saw of pugh last season he looked a decent player,good ball control,good vision and distribution. i dont buy that hes not premiership class, as hes never been given the chance to prove him self ,imo he should be given a chance as others of similar stature have had theirs
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Post by knowles on Nov 19, 2008 13:20:33 GMT
Graham Shaw is also a solicitor.. is that for Beswicks too? No it's not, although he is based in Hanley (not sure who for but I do have his mobile number ;D)
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Post by RAF on Nov 19, 2008 13:32:08 GMT
It would be no loss if Pugh went. Cheers Danny, enjoy the Championship and thanks for your effort. Now time to offload Periwinkle, Buxton et al aswell.
H
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 19, 2008 13:47:37 GMT
I'm amazed and disappointed, that bearing in mind how well he played in the centre midfield position against premier league opposition last season, that he hasn't been given a chance this. Couldn't be any worse than Amdy Faye.
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Post by truckerged on Nov 19, 2008 15:46:04 GMT
at the end of the day this was allways going to happen, tp brings in better players so naturaly that pushes squad players further down the list. at 26 i can sympathise but its not an uncommon problem in football it happens at all prem clubs. take hoefkins for example at wba do you think he is happy on the bench?
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Post by stokecity4eva on Nov 19, 2008 18:54:49 GMT
is amdy faye on loan? or was it he only signed on a 12 month deal? cause if im honest id like to see him leave in the summer ahead of pugh as i dont rate him at all i much prefer whelan in the middle than amdy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2008 18:58:30 GMT
I don't quite get the Amdy Faye bashing on here. Yes, he's had a couple of mediocre games, but the superb games he had against Villa and Arsenal clearly show there's a decent player in there. As a squad player he's fine.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Nov 19, 2008 19:09:47 GMT
agree, it's bloody scary !!
TP's first priority in January is a quality back-up striker to Fuller, no doubt about it (and then a wide left-footed player)
Pericard must be moved on, one way or another.
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Post by th05 on Nov 19, 2008 19:18:17 GMT
That's fair enough. He doesn't see himself as a squad player and he wants to play. I think there will be several Championship clubs who would be interested in taking him on come January. I don't think Whelan will be too far behind either. Agreed, but I think we should keep hold of Whelan, next choice midfielder behind the current starters.
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 19, 2008 21:21:32 GMT
After such a superb performance against Newcastle why wasn't he given another opportunity in that position?
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Post by simpson on Nov 19, 2008 22:09:34 GMT
I dont belive releasing thorley , grocott or jimmy phillips will benefit either party. We dont pay them thousands of punds and they sureley need 2 seasons worth of loans as shotton as to gain experience and to develop as players and also to get use to mens football.These lads are 18 ! Why release them when weve spent so much time developing them to this stage !
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