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Post by AlanHansen on Nov 17, 2008 23:20:38 GMT
I much pefer the noise we generate at the Brit than the lower levels of noise coming from a packed Old Trafford. Having said that it's not going to make good TV viewing on Boxing Day is it if nearly 25,000 people are singing Wanker all the time. The reporter makes a good point when he says we need to do it with a bit of wit and humour. To start with, the much louder "he's only here for the money" seemed to wind their fans up much more anyway.
The next time we go to Man U and ask for a "Shawcross" on loan the answer is likely to be "no" isn't it, and us the fans could be the reason why.
Time to take stock?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 17, 2008 23:24:09 GMT
I much pefer the noise we generate at the Brit than the lower levels of noise coming from a packed Old Trafford. Having said that it's not going to make good TV viewing on Boxing Day is it if nearly 25,000 people are singing Wanker all the time. The reporter makes a good point when he says we need to do it with a bit of wit and humour. To start with, the much louder "he's only here for the money" seemed to wind their fans up much more anyway. The next time we go to Man U and ask for a "Shawcross" on loan the answer is likely to be "no" isn't it, and us the fans could be the reason why. Time to take stock? You don't honestly believe that singing "wanker" to Ronaldo would in some way go against us signing a player do you?  Football's business, if Fergie decided not to sell to clubs who gave his players shit they'd have a squad of about 500 by now. |
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Post by parttimelurker on Nov 17, 2008 23:38:35 GMT
I think that there's only one non-Stoke Premier League footballer that I wouldn't happily call a wanker and that's Carlo Nash.
Oh, and Riggott too! ;D
I don't care what we call the rest.
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Post by AlanHansen on Nov 17, 2008 23:40:54 GMT
Yes, there is giving a player some stick and there is 25,000 fans singing wanker to him for 90 minutes (especially at our noise levels and on TV on Boxing Day). It's not going to go by unnoticed is it.
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Post by parttimelurker on Nov 17, 2008 23:47:17 GMT
Yes, there is giving a player some stick and there is 25,000 fans singing wanker to him for 90 minutes (especially at our noise levels and on TV on Boxing Day). It's not going to go by unnoticed is it. Good, I didn't know that I went to games to please Sky viewers. Maybe we should just sing some carols instead!! ;D |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2008 23:48:32 GMT
Fookin hell fire I can't wait until the 26th of December! What will this prick think of us then? ;D
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Post by parttimelurker on Nov 17, 2008 23:53:39 GMT
Fookin hell fire I can't wait until the 26th of December! What will this prick think of us then? ;D I think he'll come to understand that we don't like him very much and that he is indeed a wanker! ;D |
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 18, 2008 0:05:49 GMT
Excellent Jamo
Heres my effort
Your report Man U v Stoke today
Your report conveyed more than a little bitterness towards Stoke and its supporters whilst at the same time not accepting the same bile that we directed at Ronaldo
There are several contributory factors to this atmosphere which appear to have escaped your attention;
1 Stoke’s fans are largely drawn from a working class base and will therefore tend to deal rather more in expletives than the average middle class United fan/reporter
2 Ronaldo is deservedly hated by most English football fans (now even including his own). His obvious skills do not cover up his glaringly obvious faults as a man. It is his qualities as a man that are being judged by opposition fans
3 Outside Eastlands, Stoke fans probably despise United more than any other club. Twenty three years outside the top flight has encouraged a rich vein of glory hunters in our territory
You describe all Stoke fans as witless which is a rather sweeping statement
Your final comments describing our club indirectly as squalid is to completely ignore the respective backgrounds of the combatants. In demeaning us you demean yourself and your newspaper
And if you think that the atmosphere was vile today then make sure that you are in Stoke for the return when our fans won’t be outnumbered 25/1. Even I am apprehensive!
Come December you really will have a story to upset your fair minded United readership
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2008 0:10:30 GMT
TWM-an eloquent and most excellent letter squire!
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Post by AlanHansen on Nov 18, 2008 0:12:43 GMT
Liverpool obviosuly dislike the Shit more than most, even us.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 18, 2008 0:14:11 GMT
Paul,
It will be white hot on Boxing Day that is a certainty, I sincerely hope that Mr. Weaver is at the Brit to witness it first hand.
I love us pissing off these media sycophants.
If he thinks we were getting to Ronaldo on Saturday, well he ain't seen nothing yet!
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Nov 18, 2008 0:21:10 GMT
Jamo I wasn't joking - even I am shaking at the prospect! lol  |
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Nov 18, 2008 7:10:48 GMT
Wel-done to those who have written so eloquently to Mr. Weaver, demonstrating quite the opposite of "witless".
I'm considering e-mailing to journalist who wrote the report in The Observer to thank him for his balanced report.
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Post by mcf on Nov 18, 2008 7:43:06 GMT
Brilliant
Didn't I warn you how disgraceful shouting 'wanker' was?
Funny how some Stoke fans get upset when a journalist draws the line in the sand somewhere different to their own. ;D
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Post by offthewall on Nov 18, 2008 8:26:16 GMT
The sooner they and the other 'top' teams f**k off to their euro league the better. There the southern journo's can all watch the beautiful game with no tackling, no english players, no working class fans, no signing, no swearing and no soul. 'w**kers'  |
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Post by ColonelMustard on Nov 18, 2008 9:18:35 GMT
odds on ronaldo rested boxing day
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Post by milfman1 on Nov 18, 2008 13:26:11 GMT
keep thinkin that meself colonel. fergie will know that if winker doesnt play it will take a lot of the passion out of the stoke support. looks rooney will have to get it instead then:-)
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Post by surreystokie on Nov 18, 2008 13:43:38 GMT
Wish I hadn't been away since Sunday and was furious when I read it. Maybe I'll have time to respond today, though with Berlin tomorrow, maybe not, so thanks to those of you who have slung a desreved response at Weaver.
Why does CR's football talent preclude that his excesses, arrogance and cheating should be admonished? Ah, I'm wasting my time on here. I feel a Guardian letter coming on ..........
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Nov 18, 2008 13:43:48 GMT
Ironically, I looked at the Gruaniad site today and they were advertising a book called "Why Modern Football is Rubbish" or something similar.
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Post by surreystokie on Nov 18, 2008 13:50:57 GMT
stokemark, did you e-mail to Nick Weaver@guardian.co.uk? Thanks.
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Post by surreystokie on Nov 18, 2008 13:53:26 GMT
Oops! I meant Paul Weaver. See what he has done to me |
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Post by Titan Uranus on Nov 18, 2008 13:53:42 GMT
racing certainty
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Post by stokemark on Nov 18, 2008 14:12:53 GMT
Surrey - Yes - Thats the email I used
Cheers
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Post by stokebill on Nov 18, 2008 14:17:51 GMT
Don't forget the dot, paul.weaver@guardian.co.uk and do keep us informed, surreystokie.  |
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Nov 18, 2008 14:24:44 GMT
2 Ronaldo is deservedly hated by most English football fans (now even including his own). His obvious skills do not cover up his glaringly obvious faults as a man. It is his qualities as a man that are being judged by opposition fans Have I missed something? |
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 18, 2008 14:35:00 GMT
how terrible we should really come up with some witty and non-boorish chants like the united fans near me were singing (I was sat in with the home fans) didn't hear the first bit but it was obviously for Vidic as the second half of it was "he comes from serbia he'll fookin murder you"
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Post by mozzer68 on Nov 18, 2008 15:07:41 GMT
I would quite happily chant "wanker" for 90 minutes on boxing day & spew out any other vile and abusive chant too.
I love the fact that teams don't relish the thought of coming to Stoke & if the hostile atmosphere is highlighted by way of live games on sky then all the better i say.
The big 4 pretty boys of this league can go and do one along with the cock sucking press who fuel their ego's.
The Brit is OUR Home and it's down to us to make it uncomfortable for those who visit
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Post by jnb14 on Nov 18, 2008 15:37:25 GMT
Well my e-mail didn't get a reply as it was undeliverable  But it wasn't the decription of the chanting that bothered me (remember how Lee Hendrie wound up the opposing fans?) it was Weaver's tacit agreement with Wenger that our players deliberately injure their opponents. I'm not daft enough to believe our players are angels, but surely that went beyond fair comment and opinion  Can anyone e-mail this thread to the Grauniad? |
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Post by stalbansstokie on Nov 18, 2008 16:50:53 GMT
I read this when I was enjoying a nice relaxing couple of days away. I was absolutely furious. It was the whole tone of the report - the suporters are awful, the manager and footballers are awful, the premier league will be a better place when Stoke are relegated. He then finished with words to the effect - then we can forget all about Stoke again. The only one who got any praise was Danny who said what a great player Ronaldo was. What planet does this reporter live on? It also contrasts with the reaction of Man U fans themselves. As we were making our way back to the car, a Man U fan came up and shook hands with my son who was in his Stoke shirt. He said our fans had been brilliant.
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Post by surreystokie on Nov 18, 2008 19:10:54 GMT
stokebill and jnb14, mine seems to have been delivered, despite my putting the, before guardian, in the address. Felt sure it would be returned.
Whether or not he'll respond, who knows? But, like others of you, I've tried. We all have our own styles and content, likes and dislikes, but it's the effort that matters.
For sure, I'l be looking out for PW (media desks behind me) on Boxing Day!
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