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Post by stokiematt on Dec 27, 2007 21:39:34 GMT
ill be honest your a cunt  |
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Post by fuggers on Dec 27, 2007 21:40:02 GMT
You're
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Post by stokiematt on Dec 27, 2007 21:43:47 GMT
im not in a english lesson
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Post by KevinWhimper on Dec 27, 2007 21:46:35 GMT
There's been a really positive atmosphere on the board today after a great result yesterday. And then you turn up. Can't you do us all a favour dave and ban this childish man he is the only stoke "fan" in the world who actually enjoys stoke losing |
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Post by fuggers on Dec 27, 2007 21:46:41 GMT
I'm not in an English lesson.
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Post by fuggers on Dec 27, 2007 21:47:18 GMT
I enjoy Stoke losing?
Are you for real?
I'm classed as a Rimmer by the PHW!
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Post by fuggers on Dec 27, 2007 21:53:47 GMT
Do you guys react like this because the truth hurts?
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Post by PolPotter on Dec 27, 2007 21:54:56 GMT
If the Barnsley players had not wasted time towards the end, we may have not been given the chance to score the equaliser, this is why we can gloat.
I think most supporters at the end would have admitted if they thought the situation was unfair, but then the Barnsley players tried to be clever and it served them right.
I read a post on the 606 Board where a Barnsley supporter was blaming this time wasting on them dropping two points.
I'm not complaining!
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Post by fuggers on Dec 27, 2007 21:57:59 GMT
MrPolPotter,
I agree with you entirely, my vice is with those fans who berate the Barnsley fans for being annoyed, but would have reacted in the same way if the boot was on the other foot.
It's the same with those fans who hate it when the opposition time waste, but have no trouble with our players doing it. Or fans who see a two footed lunge by one of our players as acceptable, but by an opposition player as terrible.
I'm just calling for a bit of balance when it comes to reviewing the games I guess!
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Post by stokecityscott on Dec 27, 2007 22:00:53 GMT
Do we get balanced views of the opposition fans?
Thought not
Next
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Post by fuggers on Dec 27, 2007 22:02:50 GMT
So we should behave in the same manner then lawt?
That's hardly the way to live your life is it?
If opposition fans are too dense to see the game for what it really was then let them, but surely the supposed intellectual few of us can give honest views.
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Post by PolPotter on Dec 27, 2007 22:08:14 GMT
Fuggers, You've got more chance platting foreskin than finding a balance. Good luck though!
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Post by fuggers on Dec 27, 2007 22:08:57 GMT
You could platt foreskin if you sliced it into lots of thin strands.
So my quest will continue!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2007 22:13:17 GMT
I hate timewasting in any format as it usually comes back to bite your bollocks, Gillingham playoffs for instance.  |
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 27, 2007 22:15:01 GMT
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Post by Admin on Dec 28, 2007 9:16:34 GMT
If the 98th minute equaliser had happened the other way around, we'd all be going fucking mental about the referee playing those extra 4 minutes as well. Some of you are so biased! Actually Fuggers, your post proves you weren't there and that's why you're off target with this post. It's also why even the Barnsley fans aren't making too much of a meal about the 98th minute thing. The game had not actually reached its four minutes of stoppage time when Fuller was fouled on the edge of the area. The referee awarded the free-kick and the guilty player (Foster) then proceeded to take not less than 2-3 minutes to leave the pitch. That then has taken us to around about 6-7 minutes of stoppage time. The referee is not now going to blow the whistle because we have a free-kick right on the edge of the area. So, still no problem with time. From that free-kick, the ball is swung in and Barnsley give away a penalty. Now the referee CAN'T blow for time because the rules don't allow it. He HAS to allow time for the kick to be taken. The next two minutes were spent with Barnsley players protesting and doing all they could to drag the situation out and put even more pressure on Lawrence (no problem with that - we'd probably do the same). That then had taken the game up to 98 minutes by the time Lawrence finally stepped up and made it 3-3. However, there was never an occasion where the home fans could have been pointing at their watches and wondering where the hell all the extra time had come from. If they had not fouled Fuller on the edge of the area then that phase of football would almost certainly have been the last of the game. Thus the whole premise of your argument is false. And, like I said earlier, that's why it's not been a major issue with all but the thickest Barnsley fans. |
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Post by thats entertainment on Dec 28, 2007 9:28:26 GMT
It's just the tough shit principle that football revolves around...you win some, you lose some. However, I'm sure I would have been rage ridden if they had been given the pen...just gald yet further inept refereeing has actually helped us instead of hindered!
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Post by Davef on Dec 28, 2007 11:27:32 GMT
Barnsley also made a substitution as we were waiting to take the free-kick.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 28, 2007 11:32:51 GMT
I think it's fair to say we would have had a cry if we'd lost the lead three times and conceded after 5 o'clock. It would have been unjustified but we would have had a cry.
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Post by trebor63 on Dec 28, 2007 11:41:40 GMT
I don't think they can complain too much about the added time on the added time I bet the ball is play for less than twenty seconds of the original four minutes and most of them twenty seconds it was in the corner whilst two |Barnsley players shielded it!
However i agree if the boot had been on the other foot I would have been totally peed off, but thats footy! As for the penalty at the match I had no ides AT ALL why he gave it, I'm just glad he did!
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Post by canaladict on Dec 28, 2007 11:48:49 GMT
5 minutes of time allowed minimum
1 sending off and at least 1 substitution.
That can't be far off the 97th minute.
Anyway who gives a shite what they think, we have been shafted before and will be again.
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Dec 28, 2007 16:33:36 GMT
It was a minimum of 4 minutes added on.
The free kick which there player got sent off from was about the 93rd minute, he took at least 2 minutes to leave the field. They then made a sub, about another minute or so, and then they kicked the ball away when it was our penalty, and all that sorting out was about 1-2 minutes. So actually they have nothing to complain about.
They shouldn't time waste in future!
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Post by mcf on Dec 28, 2007 17:35:29 GMT
Davef
Are you honestly lecturing posters about negativity?
You must be having a laugh????
;D ;D ;D
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Post by fuggers on Dec 28, 2007 17:42:58 GMT
Indeed MCF,
Some of us have been positive from the outset of this season and been lambasted for it!
Smudge,
I don't give a fuck why the minutes were added on, i'm just saying that many of our fans would bitch like screaming whores if the events had been the other way around, that's all, as some have admitted.
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Post by lancer on Dec 28, 2007 20:06:59 GMT
The game lasts until the FINAL whistle. No point arguing with the clock, or the ref. Games are won or lost on the whistle, luckily we got a point from it. We could also lose games by the same whistle. Make hay while the sunshines!
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Post by Admin on Dec 28, 2007 21:26:09 GMT
Indeed MCF, Some of us have been positive from the outset of this season and been lambasted for it! Smudge, I don't give a fuck why the minutes were added on, i'm just saying that many of our fans would bitch like screaming whores if the events had been the other way around, that's all, as some have admitted. Well how do you even begin to reason with that standpoint? There was no time during the match when we were 'playing' over the time added on. The ball was in play for less than 5 seconds during thosee final four minutes because of the circumstances already explained. You're saying we'd be pissed off but few Barnsley fans are actually making that argument. I was at Reading some years ago when they made it 3-3 more than seven minutes into injury time. No Stoke fans were really moaning about the time because a player had been down seriously injured for about 7-8 minutes just before the final whistle. You're trying to make an argument out of nothing here. There is no case to answer... but feel free to keep flogging this dead horse if you're just too proud to admit that you're stone cold wrong!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2007 21:31:15 GMT
Everyone knows the risks in timewasting sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. If we get beat in the 97th minute I wouldn't be happy but if it was my team doing the arsing about then I would have to accept it. Barnsley were arsing about they got their just desserts.
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