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Post by collo68 on Nov 26, 2024 22:28:34 GMT
Not happy at all, it was crap, but he needs more time. He also needs a few more players available and a transfer window. The problem being, that he will recruit players in January to play his across-the-pitch & back-to-the-goalkeeper, 'football', i.e. negative stuff. The problem we had tonight is that they pressed with 5 players and because Cannon can’t hold the ball up we haven’t got an out ball and the quality isn’t great up to him either so they wanted us to lump it forward where they just win it. When we did beat the press we didn’t have enough quality to pick the next pass and thought Manhoof had a poor game and so did Moran |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 26, 2024 22:42:14 GMT
Million can’t beat his man down the line, he’s getting sussed now
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Post by spoton on Nov 26, 2024 22:43:18 GMT
Coukd have really done with a win tonight given we have Burnley at the weekend Still weve lost this fixture the last 2 seasons so small progress I guess Progress? That's probably the last word I'd use after that display. Woeful yes, progression no. Totally agree |
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Post by spoton on Nov 26, 2024 22:51:49 GMT
Will I ever learn? All you get on this thread is abuse for a team they are supposed to support. It didn't make pleasant viewing and several players had a poor game. Our passing at times was atrocious but do you know? We didn't lose so onto the next game. Get behind the team and manager! Seriously? We were awful yet again. Same clueless performance we’re seeing week in week out. All fingers SHOULD be pointing at our out of his depth coach. Same problems week in week out and coach having no clue how to change it. Just got the end is nigh feeling already. Totally agree a coach completely out of his depth, who to me looks at players on the training field sets them up to play his own style but forgets we are playing another championship team on match day which tackle and close you down |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 26, 2024 22:54:08 GMT
Coukd have really done with a win tonight given we have Burnley at the weekend Still weve lost this fixture the last 2 seasons so small progress I guess Progress? That's probably the last word I'd use after that display. Woeful yes, progression no. Hope you enjoyed your break from the board mate welcome back 😂 |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 26, 2024 22:55:12 GMT
Seriously? We were awful yet again. Same clueless performance we’re seeing week in week out. All fingers SHOULD be pointing at our out of his depth coach. Same problems week in week out and coach having no clue how to change it. Just got the end is nigh feeling already. Totally agree a coach completely out of his depth, who to me looks at players on the training field sets them up to play his own style but forgets we are playing another championship team on match day which tackle and close you down Such an over reaction…. |
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Post by biddulphchav on Nov 26, 2024 23:03:05 GMT
Even when we are turning poor (and even shit) performances, we are not losing. Definitely heading in the right direction.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 26, 2024 23:10:11 GMT
You would have to go a long way to find a worse game of football than what was on display tonight.
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 26, 2024 23:10:15 GMT
The boos were pathetic but you could tell after 5 minutes that we just weren’t at it. Thankfully they are dreadful so we got a point.
Need to be much more up for it on Saturday but no need to overreact to this.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 26, 2024 23:20:29 GMT
Who said NP was a Pep mk2?
Going by Man City's last 6 games,they were right.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 26, 2024 23:22:27 GMT
That was absolutely terrible. Again we were outfought and outthought against a very mediocre mid table Championship team.
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 26, 2024 23:23:40 GMT
That was absolutely terrible. Again we were outfought and outthought against a very mediocre mid table Championship team. Outfought maybe, definitely not outthought they were absolutely dreadful |
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Post by greenhoff on Nov 26, 2024 23:31:18 GMT
That was absolutely terrible. Again we were outfought and outthought against a very mediocre mid table Championship team. Outfought maybe, definitely not outthought they were absolutely dreadful Yet they were the team that created more and looked to win it |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 26, 2024 23:41:55 GMT
Outfought maybe, definitely not outthought they were absolutely dreadful Yet they were the team that created more and looked to win it Did they? It was a terrible game all around |
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Post by greenhoff on Nov 26, 2024 23:45:00 GMT
Yet they were the team that created more and looked to win it Did they? They did. Missed an absolute sitter at the end of the first half. Had the only shot of note in the second and pinned us back with a series of corners. The only positive is we gained a point |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 26, 2024 23:47:07 GMT
They did. Missed an absolute sitter at the end of the first half. Had the only shot of note in the second and pinned us back with a series of corners. The only positive is we gained a point I agree but we also missed a sitter in the first half through Burger We were terrible but so were they |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 26, 2024 23:50:14 GMT
That was absolutely terrible. Again we were outfought and outthought against a very mediocre mid table Championship team. We were neither. Certainly not good enough to break them down but that’s about it….. |
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Post by mcw on Nov 26, 2024 23:58:35 GMT
The problem being, that he will recruit players in January to play his across-the-pitch & back-to-the-goalkeeper, 'football', i.e. negative stuff. The problem we had tonight is that they pressed with 5 players and because Cannon can’t hold the ball up we haven’t got an out ball and the quality isn’t great up to him either so they wanted us to lump it forward where they just win it. When we did beat the press we didn’t have enough quality to pick the next pass and thought Manhoof had a poor game and so did Moran Spot on, they had a box of 5 players narrow pressed high up to cut out our attempts to pass into midfield. Worked a treat as we either ponderously passed around the back drawing pressure or lumped long and presented the ball straight back to them. When we did break that press we managed maybe one decent pass and then lost the ball through Million/Bae in the main having zero composure or football intelligence in relation to releasing the ball at the right time and overplaying. Was bloody turgid stuff to watch, but Preston were a very good team defensively. |
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 27, 2024 7:10:48 GMT
Can someone explain the Wilmot for Junior substitution??. Please I am baffled as to the reasoning behind it🤔 Wilmot is better in the air and they were getting a few dead balls into our box |
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Post by moon on Nov 27, 2024 7:28:26 GMT
I can't stand this low risk possession based football! We don't have the players for it. Manhoef and Junho have not been the same players since Pelach came in. Hopefully Pelach has some players in mind to try and make it work because at the moment we look worse than we did under Schumacher. Junho hasn’t come close to how he was playing at the end of last season, but that’s nothing to do with Pelach, it was the same under Schumacher this season. There have been a few glimpses of what he can do though in that QPR game, he’ll come good with time. Manhoef isn’t looking good at the moment, and Burger has been off it all season. I don’t think we look worse than we did under Schumacher though, not even close. I think Pelach will sort this out, perhaps Schumacher would’ve done as well with time but we’ll never know. We’ll finish mid table or just above and it’ll be acceptable given the circumstances, I just hope we give NP more time than his predecessors got as we need some stability. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 27, 2024 7:31:05 GMT
That was absolutely terrible. Again we were outfought and outthought against a very mediocre mid table Championship team. Not sure we were outfought. We defended our box very well. It’s certainly a high risk strategy, but we got good blocks in and they hardly created anything. |
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Post by Goonie on Nov 27, 2024 8:05:36 GMT
Positives?
Clean sheet
Extend unbeaten run
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 27, 2024 8:06:08 GMT
That was absolutely terrible. Again we were outfought and outthought against a very mediocre mid table Championship team. Not sure we were outfought. We defended our box very well. It’s certainly a high risk strategy, but we got good blocks in and they hardly created anything. Not sure about that. They missed an absolute sitter and the end of the first half and Vik pulled off an excellent save in the second |
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Post by mamathestriker on Nov 27, 2024 8:07:40 GMT
Not sure we were outfought. We defended our box very well. It’s certainly a high risk strategy, but we got good blocks in and they hardly created anything. Not sure about that. They missed an absolute sitter and the end of the first half and Vik pulled off an excellent save in the second Yeh they had the two best chances...last season we'd have conceded both! A point ended up being a positive considering our awful record against them |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 27, 2024 8:08:00 GMT
Not sure we were outfought. We defended our box very well. It’s certainly a high risk strategy, but we got good blocks in and they hardly created anything. Not sure about that. They missed an absolute sitter and the end of the first half and Vik pulled off an excellent save in the second Always tough to go an entire game without conceding a chance. |
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 27, 2024 8:12:57 GMT
Not sure about that. They missed an absolute sitter and the end of the first half and Vik pulled off an excellent save in the second Always tough to go an entire game without conceding a chance. True but imagine what it would be without Vik in goal |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 27, 2024 8:36:38 GMT
That was absolutely terrible. Again we were outfought and outthought against a very mediocre mid table Championship team. Not sure we were outfought. We defended our box very well. It’s certainly a high risk strategy, but we got good blocks in and they hardly created anything. Yes they out thought us by completely stopping any gameplan WE had with ease. We barely got into their penalty area all game. Both wingers did nothing all game, we were so easy to stop. |
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Post by stokeypenn89 on Nov 27, 2024 8:51:34 GMT
I can't stand this low risk possession based football! We don't have the players for it. Manhoef and Junho have not been the same players since Pelach came in. Hopefully Pelach has some players in mind to try and make it work because at the moment we look worse than we did under Schumacher. Junho hasn’t come close to how he was playing at the end of last season, but that’s nothing to do with Pelach, it was the same under Schumacher this season. There have been a few glimpses of what he can do though in that QPR game, he’ll come good with time. Manhoef isn’t looking good at the moment, and Burger has been off it all season. I don’t think we look worse than we did under Schumacher though, not even close. I think Pelach will sort this out, perhaps Schumacher would’ve done as well with time but we’ll never know. We’ll finish mid table or just above and it’ll be acceptable given the circumstances, I just hope we give NP more time than his predecessors got as we need some stability. Yes, I agree he needs time and hopefully it improves after Jan when we bring a few more players in. |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Nov 27, 2024 9:15:02 GMT
The main thing for me was when Burger went off we lost something. He's the one for me that can pick that pass through the lines to put Cannon in. Moran also looked like he hadn't fully recovered. I think in general most people can see progress and accept its a young side. Plus we were crap for years so the next step up would be average for a time?
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 27, 2024 9:32:27 GMT
You would have to go a long way to find a worse game of football than what was on display tonight. Mainly because of Preston's time wasting and slowing the game down. I would love to know how long the ball was actually in play, I suspect less than 45 minutes. At one stage one of their players had the ball stuffed up the back of his shirt so that the game couldn't restart quickly after their player pretended to be hurt and they all were protecting. It was at their throw as well! What a horrible team they were and how glad I am that Heckingbotham didn't get the job here. |
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