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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 13, 2024 9:41:11 GMT
If Carlsberg did Premier League’s how would yours be made up?
Obviously the riffraff clubs eg Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton etc would be put in their proper places and replaced by the bigger, more glamorous and traditional football clubs.
Anyway in my world the elite league would compromise…..
Arsenal
Aston Villa
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Chelsea
Everton
Leeds United
Liverpool
Manchester United
Manchester City
Newcastle United
Nottingham Forest
Preston North End
Tottenham Hotspur
STOKE CITY
Sunderland
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
West Ham United
Wolverhampton Wanderers
All ‘proper’ football clubs, with the likes of Leicester City, Fulham, Portsmouth, WBA, Burnley etc all vying for a place at the top table
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Post by ersaurebot 1, 000, 000 views on Nov 13, 2024 9:52:28 GMT
I’d be happier if the sacked the glory hunting teams to Europe and let the proper fans have their day in the sun but in a miserable sod
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Post by leicspotter on Nov 13, 2024 10:32:18 GMT
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Post by walrus on Nov 13, 2024 11:40:51 GMT
I don’t really agree with the concept. The teams that deserve to be there are the ones that play well enough to get there and stay there.
It’s like when fans dismiss other clubs as “tinpot”. To you they may be tinpot. To their fans that club means the world.
You could even make the argument that fans of clubs like Brentford and Bournemouth who have spent the majority of their football-watching lives slogging around the lower leagues are the most “proper” fans of all.
That being said, I do think there are too many London and south coast teams in the Prem these days. But the onus is on the likes of Stoke, the Sheffield clubs, Leeds, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, West Brom, Blackburn etc. to play well enough to replace them.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Nov 13, 2024 11:58:35 GMT
I'd go old school and do it according to who were founder member clubs and who arrived shortly after. Effectively the first 20 teams in the top division.
Accrington Stanley
Arsenal
Aston Villa
Barnsley
Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers
Bradford City
Bristol City
Burnley
Chelsea
Derby County
Everton
Notts County
Preston North End
Stoke City
Sunderland
Sheffield Wednesday
Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 13, 2024 12:07:26 GMT
I don’t really agree with the concept. The teams that deserve to be there are the ones that play well enough to get there and stay there. It’s like when fans dismiss other clubs as “tinpot”. To you they may be tinpot. To their fans that club means the world. You could even make the argument that fans of clubs like Brentford and Bournemouth who have spent the majority of their football-watching lives slogging around the lower leagues are the most “proper” fans of all. That being said, I do think there are too many London and south coast teams in the Prem these days. But the onus is on the likes of Stoke, the Sheffield clubs, Leeds, Sunderland, Middlesbrough, West Brom, Blackburn etc. to play well enough to replace them. Understand what you’re saying but remember this is a fantasy question. Obviously fans of the ‘smaller’ clubs are just as committed as those of ‘bigger’ clubs maybe even more so than the tourist clubs of ManU Fulham etc but tbh give me a packed Ewood over a packed Vitality any day. |
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 13, 2024 12:23:56 GMT
If Carlsberg did Premier League’s how would yours be made up? Obviously the riffraff clubs eg Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton etc would be put in their proper places and replaced by the bigger, more glamorous and traditional football clubs. Anyway in my world the elite league would compromise….. Arsenal Aston Villa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Chelsea Everton Leeds United Liverpool Manchester United Manchester City Newcastle United Nottingham Forest Preston North End Tottenham Hotspur STOKE CITY Sunderland Sheffield United Sheffield Wednesday West Ham United Wolverhampton Wanderers All ‘proper’ football clubs, with the likes of Leicester City, Fulham, Portsmouth, WBA, Burnley etc all vying for a place at the top table So Preston - who were last in the top division in 1961 and more proper than other clubs? |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 13, 2024 12:34:14 GMT
Stoke
Vale
Wolves
Derby
Forest
Notts County
West Brom
Birmingham
Man Utd
Man City
Blackburn
Bolton
Wigan
Everton
Liverpool
Sheff Utd
Sheff Wed
Villa
Leicester
Coventry
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Post by dexter97 on Nov 13, 2024 12:34:44 GMT
If Carlsberg did Premier League’s how would yours be made up? Obviously the riffraff clubs eg Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton etc would be put in their proper places and replaced by the bigger, more glamorous and traditional football clubs. Anyway in my world the elite league would compromise….. Arsenal Aston Villa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Chelsea Everton Leeds United Liverpool Manchester United Manchester City Newcastle United Nottingham Forest Preston North End Tottenham Hotspur STOKE CITY Sunderland Sheffield United Sheffield Wednesday West Ham United Wolverhampton Wanderers All ‘proper’ football clubs, with the likes of Leicester City, Fulham, Portsmouth, WBA, Burnley etc all vying for a place at the top table Tricky one. Doesn’t seem right without the Baggies or Derby, but who do you remove? Preston? Sheffield Utd? Most would say we don’t really deserve a place in the top 20. Top 30, perhaps. For as much as you can’t argue with the Arse being one of the first names on the list, though, what I wouldn’t give to see them drop out. If Carlsberg did PLs, they’d be in the Southern Counties. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Nov 13, 2024 12:38:51 GMT
Aston Villa
Birmingham
Blackburn Rovers
Cardiff
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Derby
Everton
Leeds
Leicester
Middlesbrough
Newcastle
Notts Forest
Sheffield United
Sheffield Wednesday
Southampton
Stoke City
Sunderland
West Ham
Wolves
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 13, 2024 12:55:47 GMT
If Carlsberg did Premier League’s how would yours be made up? Obviously the riffraff clubs eg Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton etc would be put in their proper places and replaced by the bigger, more glamorous and traditional football clubs. Anyway in my world the elite league would compromise….. Arsenal Aston Villa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Chelsea Everton Leeds United Liverpool Manchester United Manchester City Newcastle United Nottingham Forest Preston North End Tottenham Hotspur STOKE CITY Sunderland Sheffield United Sheffield Wednesday West Ham United Wolverhampton Wanderers All ‘proper’ football clubs, with the likes of Leicester City, Fulham, Portsmouth, WBA, Burnley etc all vying for a place at the top table Tricky one. Doesn’t seem right without the Baggies or Derby, but who do you remove? Preston? Sheffield Utd? Most would say we don’t really deserve a place in the top 20. Top 30, perhaps. For as much as you can’t argue with the Arse being one of the first names on the list, though, what I wouldn’t give to see them drop out. If Carlsberg did PLs, they’d be in the Southern Counties. I know we’re leaning into the history here but Preston have been bumbling around in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th divisions with average crowds of about 10k since the Beatles were starting out in Hamburg. Not sure they have a claim to being a “historic” top-flight club when they haven’t been in it for 65 years |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 13, 2024 13:23:44 GMT
If Carlsberg did Premier League’s how would yours be made up? Obviously the riffraff clubs eg Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton etc would be put in their proper places and replaced by the bigger, more glamorous and traditional football clubs. Anyway in my world the elite league would compromise….. Arsenal Aston Villa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Chelsea Everton Leeds United Liverpool Manchester United Manchester City Newcastle United Nottingham Forest Preston North End Tottenham Hotspur STOKE CITY Sunderland Sheffield United Sheffield Wednesday West Ham United Wolverhampton Wanderers All ‘proper’ football clubs, with the likes of Leicester City, Fulham, Portsmouth, WBA, Burnley etc all vying for a place at the top table So Preston - who were last in the top division in 1961 and more proper than other clubs? Yes that’s about the long and short of it, honest debate and opinions. I dare say it would be possible to make a case for about 40 clubs to be in the top flight. |
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Post by Veritas on Nov 13, 2024 13:27:08 GMT
I'd go old school and do it according to who were founder member clubs and who arrived shortly after. Effectively the first 20 teams in the top division. Accrington Stanley Arsenal Aston Villa Barnsley Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Bradford City Bristol City Burnley Chelsea Derby County Everton Notts County Preston North End Stoke City Sunderland Sheffield Wednesday Tottenham Hotspur West Bromwich Albion Wolverhampton Wanderers Sorry to be pedantic but the Accrington FC who were a founder member of the Football League were not the same club as Accrington Stanley. |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 13, 2024 13:47:12 GMT
On number of seasons in the top flight we actually sneak in. Forest and Leeds miss out, notably
No. Club Seasons
1 EVERTON 122
2 ASTON VILLA 111
3 LIVERPOOL 110
4 ARSENAL 108
5 MANCHESTER UNITED 100
6 MANCHESTER CITY 96
7 NEWCASTLE UNITED 93
8 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 90
9 CHELSEA 90
10 SUNDERLAND 86
11 WEST BROMWICH ALBION 81
12 BOLTON WANDERERS 73
13 BLACKBURN ROVERS 72
14 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 70
15 WEST HAM UNITED 67
16 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 66
17 DERBY COUNTY 65
18 SHEFFIELD UNITED 63
19 STOKE CITY 62
20 MIDDLESBROUGH 61
21 BURNLEY 60
22 NOTTINGHAM FOREST 59
23 BIRMINGHAM CITY 57
24 LEICESTER CITY 56
25 LEEDS UNITED 53
26 SOUTHAMPTON 47
27 PRESTON NORTH END 46
28 COVENTRY CITY 34
29 PORTSMOUTH 33
30 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN 32
31 FULHAM 30
32 NOTTS COUNTY 30
33 BLACKPOOL 28
34 IPSWICH TOWN 27
35 NORWICH CITY 27
35 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 26
37 CRYSTAL PALACE 25
38 QUEENS PARK RANGERS 23
39 BURY 22
40 LUTON TOWN 17
41 CARDIFF CITY 17
42 WATFORD 14
43 WIMBLEDON 14
44 BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION 12
45 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 12
46 BRADFORD CITY 12
47 GRIMSBY TOWN 12
48 BRENTFORD 9
49 BRISTOL CITY 9
50 SWANSEA CITY 9
51 AFC BOURNEMOUTH 8
52 WIGAN ATHLETIC 8
53 ACCRINGTON (Th' Owd Reds) 5
54 HULL CITY 5
55 BRADFORD PARK AVENUE 3
56 OXFORD UNITED 3
57 READING 3
58 DARWEN 2
59 MILLWALL 2
60 GLOSSOP 1
61 CARLISLE UNITED 1
62 SWINDON TOWN 1
63 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 1
64 LEYTON ORIENT 1
65 BARNSLEY 1
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 13, 2024 13:52:04 GMT
On number of seasons in the top flight we actually sneak in. Forest and Leeds miss out, notably No. Club Seasons
1 EVERTON 122
2 ASTON VILLA 111
3 LIVERPOOL 110
4 ARSENAL 108
5 MANCHESTER UNITED 100
6 MANCHESTER CITY 96
7 NEWCASTLE UNITED 93
8 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 90
9 CHELSEA 90
10 SUNDERLAND 86
11 WEST BROMWICH ALBION 81
12 BOLTON WANDERERS 73
13 BLACKBURN ROVERS 72
14 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 70
15 WEST HAM UNITED 67
16 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 66
17 DERBY COUNTY 65
18 SHEFFIELD UNITED 63
19 STOKE CITY 62
20 MIDDLESBROUGH 6121 BURNLEY 60 22 NOTTINGHAM FOREST 59 23 BIRMINGHAM CITY 57 24 LEICESTER CITY 56 25 LEEDS UNITED 53 26 SOUTHAMPTON 47 27 PRESTON NORTH END 46 28 COVENTRY CITY 34 29 PORTSMOUTH 33 30 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN 32 31 FULHAM 30 32 NOTTS COUNTY 30 33 BLACKPOOL 28 34 IPSWICH TOWN 27 35 NORWICH CITY 27 35 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 26 37 CRYSTAL PALACE 25 38 QUEENS PARK RANGERS 23 39 BURY 22 40 LUTON TOWN 17 41 CARDIFF CITY 17 42 WATFORD 14 43 WIMBLEDON 14 44 BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION 12 45 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 12 46 BRADFORD CITY 12 47 GRIMSBY TOWN 12 48 BRENTFORD 9 49 BRISTOL CITY 9 50 SWANSEA CITY 9 51 AFC BOURNEMOUTH 8 52 WIGAN ATHLETIC 8 53 ACCRINGTON (Th' Owd Reds) 5 54 HULL CITY 5 55 BRADFORD PARK AVENUE 3 56 OXFORD UNITED 3 57 READING 3 58 DARWEN 2 59 MILLWALL 2 60 GLOSSOP 1 61 CARLISLE UNITED 1 62 SWINDON TOWN 1 63 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 1 64 LEYTON ORIENT 1 65 BARNSLEY 1 Interesting that PL, embarrassing to have spent so long in the top flight and have won only one proper trophy. |
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Post by SydenhamStokie on Nov 13, 2024 14:02:43 GMT
There was a letter in 'When Saturday Comes' a few years ago in which the writer said that they have always regarded Watford as a big club because Watford were riding high in the 1980s when they first became interested in football and by the same token they didn't regard Manchester City as a big club as they were in the doldrums at the same time.
That is probably true for most of us. Derby didn't get back to Division One until about 1969 so I sort of see them as a lower division club, which is a bit illogical given their two league titles in the 1970s.
Crystal Palace, my local club, are not big for the same reason (without checking I think they were promoted with Derby).
I also see Burnley as bigger than Blackburn because they were more successful at the beginning of the 1960s when I first took an interest in football. In reality they are probably on a par with each other in terms of their history.
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 13, 2024 14:13:20 GMT
Interesting that PL, embarrassing to have spent so long in the top flight and have won only one proper trophy. It is a bit. Boro can rival us with only one, but they've been to a few more finals, including a UEFA final. In the 20-40 group there are some others with only one (Saints, Charlton, Notts Co). In the top 40 I can only see Fulham and Palace with no major trophies at all. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 13, 2024 14:24:53 GMT
Arsenal should not be allowed,for been a absolute Cunt of a club.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Nov 13, 2024 14:34:46 GMT
Arsenal
Aston Villa
Birmingham
Blackpool
Brighton
Bristol City
Chelsea
Everton
Leeds
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Newcastle
Nottm Forest
Sheff Wed
Stoke
Sunderland
Tottenham
West Brom
Wolves
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Post by femark on Nov 13, 2024 15:07:53 GMT
Arsenal Aston Villa Blackburn Rovers Bolton Wanderers Chelsea Crystal Palace Everton Fulham Leeds United Leicester City Liverpool Manchester City Manchester United Middlesbrough Newcastle United Southampton Stoke City Sunderland Tottenham Hotspur West Ham United Basically the teams with the most appearances in the Premier League, with us replacing West Brom  |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 13, 2024 18:29:24 GMT
On number of seasons in the top flight we actually sneak in. Forest and Leeds miss out, notably No. Club Seasons
1 EVERTON 122
2 ASTON VILLA 111
3 LIVERPOOL 110
4 ARSENAL 108
5 MANCHESTER UNITED 100
6 MANCHESTER CITY 96
7 NEWCASTLE UNITED 93
8 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 90
9 CHELSEA 90
10 SUNDERLAND 86
11 WEST BROMWICH ALBION 81
12 BOLTON WANDERERS 73
13 BLACKBURN ROVERS 72
14 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 70
15 WEST HAM UNITED 67
16 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 66
17 DERBY COUNTY 65
18 SHEFFIELD UNITED 63
19 STOKE CITY 62
20 MIDDLESBROUGH 6121 BURNLEY 60 22 NOTTINGHAM FOREST 59 23 BIRMINGHAM CITY 57 24 LEICESTER CITY 56 25 LEEDS UNITED 53 26 SOUTHAMPTON 47 27 PRESTON NORTH END 46 28 COVENTRY CITY 34 29 PORTSMOUTH 33 30 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN 32 31 FULHAM 30 32 NOTTS COUNTY 30 33 BLACKPOOL 28 34 IPSWICH TOWN 27 35 NORWICH CITY 27 35 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 26 37 CRYSTAL PALACE 25 38 QUEENS PARK RANGERS 23 39 BURY 22 40 LUTON TOWN 17 41 CARDIFF CITY 17 42 WATFORD 14 43 WIMBLEDON 14 44 BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION 12 45 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 12 46 BRADFORD CITY 12 47 GRIMSBY TOWN 12 48 BRENTFORD 9 49 BRISTOL CITY 9 50 SWANSEA CITY 9 51 AFC BOURNEMOUTH 8 52 WIGAN ATHLETIC 8 53 ACCRINGTON (Th' Owd Reds) 5 54 HULL CITY 5 55 BRADFORD PARK AVENUE 3 56 OXFORD UNITED 3 57 READING 3 58 DARWEN 2 59 MILLWALL 2 60 GLOSSOP 1 61 CARLISLE UNITED 1 62 SWINDON TOWN 1 63 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 1 64 LEYTON ORIENT 1 65 BARNSLEY 1 Wheres the plucky vale 🤭🤭🤔🤔🤣😂🤣😂 |
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Post by lordb on Nov 13, 2024 18:37:32 GMT
On number of seasons in the top flight we actually sneak in. Forest and Leeds miss out, notably No. Club Seasons
1 EVERTON 122
2 ASTON VILLA 111
3 LIVERPOOL 110
4 ARSENAL 108
5 MANCHESTER UNITED 100
6 MANCHESTER CITY 96
7 NEWCASTLE UNITED 93
8 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 90
9 CHELSEA 90
10 SUNDERLAND 86
11 WEST BROMWICH ALBION 81
12 BOLTON WANDERERS 73
13 BLACKBURN ROVERS 72
14 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 70
15 WEST HAM UNITED 67
16 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 66
17 DERBY COUNTY 65
18 SHEFFIELD UNITED 63
19 STOKE CITY 62
20 MIDDLESBROUGH 6121 BURNLEY 60 22 NOTTINGHAM FOREST 59 23 BIRMINGHAM CITY 57 24 LEICESTER CITY 56 25 LEEDS UNITED 53 26 SOUTHAMPTON 47 27 PRESTON NORTH END 46 28 COVENTRY CITY 34 29 PORTSMOUTH 33 30 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN 32 31 FULHAM 30 32 NOTTS COUNTY 30 33 BLACKPOOL 28 34 IPSWICH TOWN 27 35 NORWICH CITY 27 35 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 26 37 CRYSTAL PALACE 25 38 QUEENS PARK RANGERS 23 39 BURY 22 40 LUTON TOWN 17 41 CARDIFF CITY 17 42 WATFORD 14 43 WIMBLEDON 14 44 BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION 12 45 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 12 46 BRADFORD CITY 12 47 GRIMSBY TOWN 12 48 BRENTFORD 9 49 BRISTOL CITY 9 50 SWANSEA CITY 9 51 AFC BOURNEMOUTH 8 52 WIGAN ATHLETIC 8 53 ACCRINGTON (Th' Owd Reds) 5 54 HULL CITY 5 55 BRADFORD PARK AVENUE 3 56 OXFORD UNITED 3 57 READING 3 58 DARWEN 2 59 MILLWALL 2 60 GLOSSOP 1 61 CARLISLE UNITED 1 62 SWINDON TOWN 1 63 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 1 64 LEYTON ORIENT 1 65 BARNSLEY 1 Thought we had more than that? |
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Post by bertiestan on Nov 13, 2024 19:13:08 GMT
What a great thread👍🏻
Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest
Everton
Sheffield Wednesday
Stoke City
Leeds United
Chelsea
Manchester United
Coventry City
Liverpool
Southampton
Arsenal
Sunderland
Manchester City
Portsmouth
Sheffield United
Newcastle United
Tottenham Hotspur
Charlton Athletic
Blackburn Rovers
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Post by callas12 on Nov 13, 2024 19:46:51 GMT
On number of seasons in the top flight we actually sneak in. Forest and Leeds miss out, notably No. Club Seasons
1 EVERTON 122
2 ASTON VILLA 111
3 LIVERPOOL 110
4 ARSENAL 108
5 MANCHESTER UNITED 100
6 MANCHESTER CITY 96
7 NEWCASTLE UNITED 93
8 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 90
9 CHELSEA 90
10 SUNDERLAND 86
11 WEST BROMWICH ALBION 81
12 BOLTON WANDERERS 73
13 BLACKBURN ROVERS 72
14 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 70
15 WEST HAM UNITED 67
16 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 66
17 DERBY COUNTY 65
18 SHEFFIELD UNITED 63
19 STOKE CITY 62
20 MIDDLESBROUGH 6121 BURNLEY 60 22 NOTTINGHAM FOREST 59 23 BIRMINGHAM CITY 57 24 LEICESTER CITY 56 25 LEEDS UNITED 53 26 SOUTHAMPTON 47 27 PRESTON NORTH END 46 28 COVENTRY CITY 34 29 PORTSMOUTH 33 30 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN 32 31 FULHAM 30 32 NOTTS COUNTY 30 33 BLACKPOOL 28 34 IPSWICH TOWN 27 35 NORWICH CITY 27 35 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 26 37 CRYSTAL PALACE 25 38 QUEENS PARK RANGERS 23 39 BURY 22 40 LUTON TOWN 17 41 CARDIFF CITY 17 42 WATFORD 14 43 WIMBLEDON 14 44 BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION 12 45 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 12 46 BRADFORD CITY 12 47 GRIMSBY TOWN 12 48 BRENTFORD 9 49 BRISTOL CITY 9 50 SWANSEA CITY 9 51 AFC BOURNEMOUTH 8 52 WIGAN ATHLETIC 8 53 ACCRINGTON (Th' Owd Reds) 5 54 HULL CITY 5 55 BRADFORD PARK AVENUE 3 56 OXFORD UNITED 3 57 READING 3 58 DARWEN 2 59 MILLWALL 2 60 GLOSSOP 1 61 CARLISLE UNITED 1 62 SWINDON TOWN 1 63 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 1 64 LEYTON ORIENT 1 65 BARNSLEY 1 We'd potentially be fast approaching the Top 10 had Peter Coates realised what all the fuss was about in 2017 and halted our catastrophic decline! Interesting to see Sheff United have nudged us down a place and just gone above us now.. Burnley & Forest breathing down our necks 🫣😬 |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 13, 2024 20:03:23 GMT
On number of seasons in the top flight we actually sneak in. Forest and Leeds miss out, notably No. Club Seasons
1 EVERTON 122
2 ASTON VILLA 111
3 LIVERPOOL 110
4 ARSENAL 108
5 MANCHESTER UNITED 100
6 MANCHESTER CITY 96
7 NEWCASTLE UNITED 93
8 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 90
9 CHELSEA 90
10 SUNDERLAND 86
11 WEST BROMWICH ALBION 81
12 BOLTON WANDERERS 73
13 BLACKBURN ROVERS 72
14 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 70
15 WEST HAM UNITED 67
16 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 66
17 DERBY COUNTY 65
18 SHEFFIELD UNITED 63
19 STOKE CITY 62
20 MIDDLESBROUGH 6121 BURNLEY 60 22 NOTTINGHAM FOREST 59 23 BIRMINGHAM CITY 57 24 LEICESTER CITY 56 25 LEEDS UNITED 53 26 SOUTHAMPTON 47 27 PRESTON NORTH END 46 28 COVENTRY CITY 34 29 PORTSMOUTH 33 30 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN 32 31 FULHAM 30 32 NOTTS COUNTY 30 33 BLACKPOOL 28 34 IPSWICH TOWN 27 35 NORWICH CITY 27 35 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 26 37 CRYSTAL PALACE 25 38 QUEENS PARK RANGERS 23 39 BURY 22 40 LUTON TOWN 17 41 CARDIFF CITY 17 42 WATFORD 14 43 WIMBLEDON 14 44 BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION 12 45 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 12 46 BRADFORD CITY 12 47 GRIMSBY TOWN 12 48 BRENTFORD 9 49 BRISTOL CITY 9 50 SWANSEA CITY 9 51 AFC BOURNEMOUTH 8 52 WIGAN ATHLETIC 8 53 ACCRINGTON (Th' Owd Reds) 5 54 HULL CITY 5 55 BRADFORD PARK AVENUE 3 56 OXFORD UNITED 3 57 READING 3 58 DARWEN 2 59 MILLWALL 2 60 GLOSSOP 1 61 CARLISLE UNITED 1 62 SWINDON TOWN 1 63 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 1 64 LEYTON ORIENT 1 65 BARNSLEY 1 That is as good a yardstick as any Would imagine Forest will catch us soon unless we get our shit together |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 13, 2024 20:05:08 GMT
Stoke, Boro and Birmingham the biggest under achievers in terms of trophies won compared to seasons at the top table
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 13, 2024 20:14:54 GMT
Stoke, Boro and Birmingham the biggest under achievers in terms of trophies won compared to seasons at the top table Brum have 2 League Cups which, in the context, I think has to go down as "much" better than us |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 13, 2024 20:28:06 GMT
On number of seasons in the top flight we actually sneak in. Forest and Leeds miss out, notably No. Club Seasons
1 EVERTON 122
2 ASTON VILLA 111
3 LIVERPOOL 110
4 ARSENAL 108
5 MANCHESTER UNITED 100
6 MANCHESTER CITY 96
7 NEWCASTLE UNITED 93
8 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 90
9 CHELSEA 90
10 SUNDERLAND 86
11 WEST BROMWICH ALBION 81
12 BOLTON WANDERERS 73
13 BLACKBURN ROVERS 72
14 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 70
15 WEST HAM UNITED 67
16 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 66
17 DERBY COUNTY 65
18 SHEFFIELD UNITED 63
19 STOKE CITY 62
20 MIDDLESBROUGH 6121 BURNLEY 60 22 NOTTINGHAM FOREST 59 23 BIRMINGHAM CITY 57 24 LEICESTER CITY 56 25 LEEDS UNITED 53 26 SOUTHAMPTON 47 27 PRESTON NORTH END 46 28 COVENTRY CITY 34 29 PORTSMOUTH 33 30 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN 32 31 FULHAM 30 32 NOTTS COUNTY 30 33 BLACKPOOL 28 34 IPSWICH TOWN 27 35 NORWICH CITY 27 35 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 26 37 CRYSTAL PALACE 25 38 QUEENS PARK RANGERS 23 39 BURY 22 40 LUTON TOWN 17 41 CARDIFF CITY 17 42 WATFORD 14 43 WIMBLEDON 14 44 BRIGHTON AND HOVE ALBION 12 45 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 12 46 BRADFORD CITY 12 47 GRIMSBY TOWN 12 48 BRENTFORD 9 49 BRISTOL CITY 9 50 SWANSEA CITY 9 51 AFC BOURNEMOUTH 8 52 WIGAN ATHLETIC 8 53 ACCRINGTON (Th' Owd Reds) 5 54 HULL CITY 5 55 BRADFORD PARK AVENUE 3 56 OXFORD UNITED 3 57 READING 3 58 DARWEN 2 59 MILLWALL 2 60 GLOSSOP 1 61 CARLISLE UNITED 1 62 SWINDON TOWN 1 63 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 1 64 LEYTON ORIENT 1 65 BARNSLEY 1 Let’s be honest most neutrals would probably say “swap Boro’ and Stoke for maybe Leeds and Forest” But as I’m biased I’ll say swap Boro’ and Sheff Utd for Forest and Leeds….. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 13, 2024 20:32:14 GMT
Stoke, Boro and Birmingham the biggest under achievers in terms of trophies won compared to seasons at the top table Brum have 2 League Cups which, in the context, I think has to go down as "much" better than us Its my biggest bugbear as a Stoke fan….one major trophy in 150 years plus ☹️ Id have sacrificed a few top level seasons for us snaring the FA cup in 2011 |
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Post by alsagerstokie on Nov 13, 2024 20:42:18 GMT
Arsenal
Aston Villa
Brentford
Burton
Chelsea
Coventry
Leeds
Liverpool
Newcastle
Norwich
Nottingham
Plymouth Argyle
Portsmouth
Oxford
Shrewsbury
Stoke
Swansea
Tottenham
Watford
West Ham
Done.
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