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Post by apb1 on Nov 12, 2024 9:49:40 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2024 10:17:43 GMT
Especially given all the hard work his predecessor did slashing the wage bill, bringing youngsters through, getting rid of Rowett/Jones expensive duds MoN got it wrong at the end for sure but absolutely criminal to replace him with AN , appalling job that he did |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Nov 12, 2024 10:22:49 GMT
We'd have been better off persevering with MON in hindsight.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 12, 2024 10:58:57 GMT
We'd have been better off persevering with MON in hindsight. Wonderful thing though hindsight isn't it? |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 12, 2024 11:10:38 GMT
We'd have been better off persevering with MON in hindsight. We would. Although in reality we probably would have continued bobbing around in mid table, just probably slightly higher up the table and for less money because we wouldn't have had to pay O'Neill off and pay to poach Alex Neil. I don't think sacking O'Neill was necessarily a bad decision, I think it was the timing and choice of replacement that was the problem. He'd gone stale and needed replacing in May at the end of the previous season. We'd have had a bigger choice of managers, probably had to pay less and they'd have had a whole summer to recruit and shape the team. It's a mistake we keep making like with Schumacher this season. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the decision, it's clear that Walters didn't have faith in him and he should have shown the courage of his convictions in May not September. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 12, 2024 11:12:48 GMT
We'd have been better off persevering with MON in hindsight. Wonderful thing though hindsight isn't it? I said it at the time, especially in light of who was given the job. If it had been someone else appointed I may have thought differently of course…. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 12, 2024 11:19:04 GMT
Wonderful thing though hindsight isn't it? I said it at the time, especially in light of who was given the job. If it had been someone else appointed I may have thought differently of course…. I know, I was being flippant. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 12, 2024 11:22:09 GMT
I said it at the time, especially in light of who was given the job. If it had been someone else appointed I may have thought differently of course…. I know, I was being flippant. Please use the flippant emoji next time mate…..😂 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 12, 2024 12:59:20 GMT
Isn’t the issue the owners being shit and not imposing the same constraints?
MoN was rightly sacked.
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2024 13:04:49 GMT
Isn’t the issue the owners being shit and not imposing the same constraints? MoN was rightly sacked. yes but he was replaced with someone who did a worse job was trying to emphasise, as the link in the op demonstrates , what a shit job AN did blame the owner for appointing him, that's fair, but AN should not get off scott free, he was wank, that's his fault. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Nov 12, 2024 13:45:11 GMT
It's speculation of course, but I think we would've finished top half if O'Neill was given the budget Neil had, then who knows after that. I don't agree he went stale - probably knackered from that operation, which he recovered from.
O'Neill worked under such budgetary constraints compared to our other Championship managers, I doubt he would've been anywhere near as wasteful.
Balanced out, his permanent signings were probably much better than any other recent manager, and they came on the cheap.
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Post by Ron on Nov 12, 2024 14:11:27 GMT
We played the best football since relegation under MON - in one calendar year we were excellent - back end of one season/ start of the next. There was a spell when we were in fine form. But for some reason it faded. Always felt that victory being snatched from us at forest that day- when they went on to go up- was a turning point for him.
That said , in hindsight I’d have kept him. He did however h e a poor window signing many useless and unecessary players ( aiden flint anyone?!) that contributed to his demise.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 12, 2024 14:18:28 GMT
Isn’t the issue the owners being shit and not imposing the same constraints? MoN was rightly sacked. yes but he was replaced with someone who did a worse job was trying to emphasise, as the link in the op demonstrates , what a shit job AN did blame the owner for appointing him, that's fair, but AN should not get off scott free, he was wank, that's his fault. Because they were left with an awfully balanced squad that MoN had left. He made a right pigs ear of assembling a new squad. Neil was shite as was MoN. |
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 12, 2024 14:26:33 GMT
Isn’t the issue the owners being shit and not imposing the same constraints? MoN was rightly sacked. As ever, he was sacked at the wrong time. Either sack them early or give them time. Don't let them assemble a squad to play how they want to play. That way you end up with an odds and sods squad. See every appointment we've made since Hughes left. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Nov 12, 2024 15:08:52 GMT
We played the best football since relegation under MON - in one calendar year we were excellent - back end of one season/ start of the next. There was a spell when we were in fine form. But for some reason it faded. Always felt that victory being snatched from us at forest that day- when they went on to go up- was a turning point for him. That said , in hindsight I’d have kept him. He did however h e a poor window signing many useless and unecessary players ( aiden flint anyone?!) that contributed to his demise. Flint was an emergency signing on a short contract due to Souttar's injury. Campbell's injury was also a big setback under O'Neill - weren't we 3 points off the top at the time? |
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