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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Nov 21, 2024 10:01:42 GMT
Like most folk posting on here I really do think Stoke will win tomorrow but just a word of caution.
We played QPR at Loftus Road at a similar stage last season, their 8th home game, bottom of the table, with a record of drawn two and losing five.
We lost 2-4, of course we did!
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Post by lordb on Nov 21, 2024 10:16:21 GMT
It's the Championship Table suggests there is a gulf in quality between Sunderland and QPR There really isn't True enough, but there is a gulf in belief, and aside from the odd team with some genuine quality coming down, that's what the Championship is won and lost on. Turning a promising run into a really good one. Taking the pressure off yourself by winning the winnable games. We're in the habit of giving belief to teams that have none and if we're ever going to show our face consistently in the top half of the table that has to stop. That Ipswich team was a run of the mill championship team on paper, but when you watched them they hardly ever second guessed themselves. They didn't waste a split second. Everything was done with purpose. Can we get to a point where there's a belief in what we're doing? Over a season agree completely Just get frustrated when I see posts seeing QPR as easy with Sunderland as tough Probability is if Stoke play well we will normally win, as unusual for both sides to play well in a Championship match, against anyone Equally play badly we will probably lose against anyone although both sides playing badly is more likely than both playing well |
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Post by stokienorthants on Nov 21, 2024 10:17:25 GMT
Like most folk posting on here I really do think Stoke will win tomorrow but just a word of caution. We played QPR at Loftus Road at a similar stage last season, their 8th home game, bottom of the table, with a record of drawn two and losing five. We lost 2-4, of course we did! I guarantee we definitely won’t lose tomorrow! |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Nov 21, 2024 11:06:36 GMT
True enough, but there is a gulf in belief, and aside from the odd team with some genuine quality coming down, that's what the Championship is won and lost on. Turning a promising run into a really good one. Taking the pressure off yourself by winning the winnable games. We're in the habit of giving belief to teams that have none and if we're ever going to show our face consistently in the top half of the table that has to stop. That Ipswich team was a run of the mill championship team on paper, but when you watched them they hardly ever second guessed themselves. They didn't waste a split second. Everything was done with purpose. Can we get to a point where there's a belief in what we're doing? Over a season agree completely Just get frustrated when I see posts seeing QPR as easy with Sunderland as tough Probability is if Stoke play well we will normally win, as unusual for both sides to play well in a Championship match, against anyone Equally play badly we will probably lose against anyone although both sides playing badly is more likely than both playing well There's no easy games in the Championship if your attitude and approach is wrong. No unwinnable game if it's on the money. There's no excuse for the difference in effort and intensity we've seen against some of the lesser lights compared to the teams up at the top over the last few years. My main hope for the rest of the season is that we concentrate on doing what we want to do, make changes based on form and fitness and how we are looking to hurt the opposition, and not making changes to personnel and formation based on what we think the opposition want to do to us. Of course there will be the odd exception to that but by and large stick to what we're trying to do. I really think thats the only way to get belief and consistency in the championship over a season. That starts with QPR, come back from an international break and impose yourself on the game. Chalk off another on the long list of things that start with "you just know Stoke are going to......." |
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 21, 2024 11:11:12 GMT
As much as I think we are on the right path, the current team does not convince me it's the type that will go on a sustained good run of results.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 21, 2024 11:21:51 GMT
Like most folk posting on here I really do think Stoke will win tomorrow but just a word of caution. We played QPR at Loftus Road at a similar stage last season, their 8th home game, bottom of the table, with a record of drawn two and losing five. We lost 2-4, of course we did! Yes and we were 2-1 up with 11 minutes to go as well if I remember rightly but with 10 men. Ironically this time last year we were about to come back after a 5 game unbeaten run before the international break and then 4 games later Alex Neil was sacked after 4 straight defeats which included the QPR game. I was also there for the 4-2 defeat just before the Pandemic when we were 2 up only for Eze to put on a super show for their comeback |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Nov 21, 2024 11:27:57 GMT
Like most folk posting on here I really do think Stoke will win tomorrow but just a word of caution. We played QPR at Loftus Road at a similar stage last season, their 8th home game, bottom of the table, with a record of drawn two and losing five. We lost 2-4, of course we did! Yes and we were 2-1 up with 11 minutes to go as well if I remember rightly but with 10 men. Ironically this time last year we were about to come back after a 5 game unbeaten run before the international break and then 4 games later Alex Neil was sacked after 4 straight defeats which included the QPR game. I was also there for the 4-2 defeat just before the Pandemic when we were 2 up only for Eze to put on a super show for their comeback That one last year was weird, Alex Neil was largely overly cautious but for some reason in that game, a goal up and down to ten, he chose to go bat shit crazy and seemed to go all out attack. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 21, 2024 11:32:36 GMT
I want to semi-agree with the realism on it still being a tough game (and people may well say this about our squad) but I looked at their team for the last game they played and didn't have a clue who most of the names were. If there's any time to break a hoodoo and kick on with the season, it's this weekend. It's a tight, awkward place to go, but one we need to show what we're about if we want to actually get going.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 21, 2024 11:47:23 GMT
Over a season agree completely Just get frustrated when I see posts seeing QPR as easy with Sunderland as tough Probability is if Stoke play well we will normally win, as unusual for both sides to play well in a Championship match, against anyone Equally play badly we will probably lose against anyone although both sides playing badly is more likely than both playing well There's no easy games in the Championship if your attitude and approach is wrong. No unwinnable game if it's on the money. There's no excuse for the difference in effort and intensity we've seen against some of the lesser lights compared to the teams up at the top over the last few years. My main hope for the rest of the season is that we concentrate on doing what we want to do, make changes based on form and fitness and how we are looking to hurt the opposition, and not making changes to personnel and formation based on what we think the opposition want to do to us. Of course there will be the odd exception to that but by and large stick to what we're trying to do. I really think thats the only way to get belief and consistency in the championship over a season. That starts with QPR, come back from an international break and impose yourself on the game. Chalk off another on the long list of things that start with "you just know Stoke are going to......." Exactly. Since we got relegated both players and fans have been infected by the "we'll piss this tinpot league" bug and we've lost against teams we were capable of beating because we hadn't got the right mindset - every win is hard work and you have to put in the graft. Pelach seems to be instilling that. And taking the opposition seriously isn't being "little old Stoke" it's going into the game with the right mentality to win it. |
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Nov 21, 2024 12:02:43 GMT
Need to get the win here to prove that we’re finally turning the shitshow and false hope and false dawns around.
I’m happy with the direction we seem to be heading right now but usually a game like this sees us all back to earth with a bump. They will be smarting from getting hammered at home last game but that should mean if we get the first goal their confidence will evaporate rather than the SCFC charity bus arriving and letting them have an easy 3 pts to get themselves back on track!!
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Nov 21, 2024 13:26:39 GMT
This is the type of game we'd lose in years gone by, it's just what we do.
I'd love a win (obviously) but I'd take a decent performance and a point tomorrow.
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Post by humbersidepotter on Nov 21, 2024 14:14:50 GMT
Got a feeling we'll get a good performance here! Comfortable win hopefully. It's time to push on, get some momentum moving into the next window to hopefully attract better players
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Post by apb1 on Nov 21, 2024 14:37:05 GMT
I would pick:
Johansson
Wilmot
Phillips/Rose (if Phillips injured)
Gibson
Stevens/Bocat (if Stevens needs more time for his 'niggle')
Sidibe
Seko
Moran
Bae (only been to East Mediterranean and not played loads during break)
Cannon
Million
SUBS:
Bonham
Junior
Rose/Dixon if Rose has to play
Bocat/?? if Bocat has to play
Thompson
?? bit light on midfielders will be chance for youth e.g. Will Smith perhaps?
Koumas
Tezgel
Vidigal
Energy, not too aggressive with that ref in mind. And patience/resilience as they will throw everything at us from start.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Nov 21, 2024 16:41:38 GMT
With how this league is this season who knows what will happen?
But it's QPR....an away end which in my eyes is diabolical, an away day in which my abiding memory of being a teen Stoke fan is being chased around parts of W1 postcode area, and the fact that even my Missus who has only attended half a dozen or so Stoke games (so far) detests QPR as an ex employee of hers supported them & was a complete fuck wit
Please Stoke City....do it for the trauma!
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Post by chell_rosey on Nov 21, 2024 17:36:35 GMT
They will score 1 and we shall score 4.
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Post by thornestein on Nov 21, 2024 17:42:02 GMT
Like most folk posting on here I really do think Stoke will win tomorrow but just a word of caution. We played QPR at Loftus Road at a similar stage last season, their 8th home game, bottom of the table, with a record of drawn two and losing five. We lost 2-4, of course we did! tomorrow ? |
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Post by banksy1art on Nov 21, 2024 19:03:15 GMT
A win would be massive
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Post by Ron on Nov 21, 2024 19:44:54 GMT
Got limp 0-2 defeat written all over it hasn’t it.
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Post by Gods on Nov 22, 2024 8:37:23 GMT
Is there a pre match video interview with Narcis available please?
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Post by dexter97 on Nov 22, 2024 10:55:38 GMT
With how this league is this season who knows what will happen? But it's QPR....an away end which in my eyes is diabolical, an away day in which my abiding memory of being a teen Stoke fan is being chased around parts of W1 postcode area, and the fact that even my Missus who has only attended half a dozen or so Stoke games (so far) detests QPR as an ex employee of hers supported them & was a complete fuck wit Please Stoke City....do it for the trauma! They pursued you for quite a distance if you ended-up in W1. Lucky you weren't shot by someone's butler.  My last trip to Loftus Road was the last day of the 2006-07 season when we had an outside chance of the playoffs. Dreadful match. It wasn't a particularly good day out, as I recall, but at least we weren't chased all the way to Fitzrovia. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Nov 22, 2024 10:55:40 GMT
A win here would feel really important. Type of game we usually come a cropper in and to come out with a win would feel great.
We usually struggle there, so I'd probably take a point.
But like I say, I hope we've got the belief to win, show us we can believe NP and players! Go on Stoke!
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Nov 22, 2024 11:18:29 GMT
It’s nice to actually look forward to a game.
So inevitably, QPR 6-0.
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Post by bertiestan on Nov 22, 2024 11:32:48 GMT
Got limp 0-2 defeat written all over it hasn’t it. That’s the spirit 🔴⚪️ |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Nov 22, 2024 12:12:44 GMT
Very much see this as a 50/50 match.
Despite their lowly position, they're at home and fully expect them to be bang up for it. This will be a game that they'll be expecting to pick up 3 points in, particularly after the break.
I think they'll come at us with a real high intensity from the off, which is what we tend to struggle with.
Conversely, few decent results for our lads - may be taking the foot off the gas a bit whether subconscious or not.
This one is a real key game, as it's the sort that top half teams win, and bottom half teams don't.
Heart says 2-0 Stoke. Head says 3-1 QPR.
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Post by kerouac on Nov 22, 2024 12:40:02 GMT
Like most folk posting on here I really do think Stoke will win tomorrow but just a word of caution. We played QPR at Loftus Road at a similar stage last season, their 8th home game, bottom of the table, with a record of drawn two and losing five. We lost 2-4, of course we did! That was a grim experience. |
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Post by kerouac on Nov 22, 2024 12:41:35 GMT
It’s nice to actually look forward to a game. So inevitably, QPR 6-0. I think that was the score decades ago on their artificial pitch if I remember rightly….i was there. |
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Post by delilahwhy on Nov 22, 2024 12:55:20 GMT
God
Junior Phillips Gibson Stevens
Seko Moran
Million Junho Koumas
Cannon
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Post by lordb on Nov 22, 2024 13:01:31 GMT
Very much see this as a 50/50 match. Despite their lowly position, they're at home and fully expect them to be bang up for it. This will be a game that they'll be expecting to pick up 3 points in, particularly after the break. I think they'll come at us with a real high intensity from the off, which is what we tend to struggle with. Conversely, few decent results for our lads - may be taking the foot off the gas a bit whether subconscious or not. This one is a real key game, as it's the sort that top half teams win, and bottom half teams don't. Heart says 2-0 Stoke. Head says 3-1 QPR. 'I think they'll come at us with a real high intensity from the off' why do you think that? They have an in jury crisis & are really struggling, would expect them to be super cautious to avoid conceding an early goal rather they came at us we have a better goal threat on the break TBH but can see it being cagey early on |
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Post by kerouac on Nov 22, 2024 13:49:10 GMT
God Junior Phillips Gibson Stevens Seko Moran Million Junho Koumas Cannon I like that team. |
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 22, 2024 13:57:09 GMT
Way too flaky for an away game.
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