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Post by PotterLog on Nov 22, 2024 9:51:55 GMT
I am - or was - fairly VAR-sceptic but they're weak arguments for scrapping it to be honest. "It takes a long time".. yeah well that can improve. It already is with the semi-automated offsides which are much quicker. "It removes the spontaneity and passion of celebrations".. I mean does it really? I don't find that. Even if it does, frankly get over it, disallowed goals aren't a new thing. "It's just more subjectivity" Well ultimately the decisions are subjective, yes, but VAR provides far more information to make the decisions accurately. "You still get errors" You do, but fewer. I'm a reluctant advocate but VAR is absolutely not going anywhere, as shown by the fact that every other PL club immediately rejected Wolves' daft motion to get rid of it last season. It's here to stay and things are generally fairer for it - I don't like the toenail-width offsides but we're just not used to that law being implemented to that level of precision, I think we just have to get used to it. Keep improving the integration and processes, eventually we won't have to keep on thinking and talking about it (I look forward to that day) I reckon they rejected Wolves motion because they thought they'd be seen as old fashioned if they supported it So a fear of seeming a bit old-fashioned was enough for all 19 other clubs to vote against their own interests? Seems a little unlikely |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 22, 2024 9:54:17 GMT
It does for you, it doesn't for others. Sounds pretty ambiguous to me  What others? It's the same experience for all fans at matches with VAR Or are you referring to those watching whilst stoned? I’m just saying it’s subjective. I don’t find it ruins goal celebrations. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2024 10:57:37 GMT
I reckon they rejected Wolves motion because they thought they'd be seen as old fashioned if they supported it So a fear of seeming a bit old-fashioned was enough for all 19 other clubs to vote against their own interests? Seems a little unlikely Yes. That's what I reckon |
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Post by lordb on Nov 22, 2024 11:05:42 GMT
What others? It's the same experience for all fans at matches with VAR Or are you referring to those watching whilst stoned? I’m just saying it’s subjective. I don’t find it ruins goal celebrations. Can't get my head around that How can it not Do you continue to celebrate for the several minutes it often takes for them to make (often wrong) decision? Or do you celebrate then stop celebrating whilst you wait therefore having your celebration ruined? |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 22, 2024 12:42:52 GMT
I’m just saying it’s subjective. I don’t find it ruins goal celebrations. Can't get my head around that How can it not Do you continue to celebrate for the several minutes it often takes for them to make (often wrong) decision? Or do you celebrate then stop celebrating whilst you wait therefore having your celebration ruined? I just don’t think it’s that significant a thing. Celebrate, review, celebrate again. Or not. It only affects a few goals scored and you generally get a sense of whether there was anything wrong or not. Foden scored one in the euros that I didn’t celebrate at all while the rest of the room was jumping around because I knew it was going to get pulled back. None of it “ruins” anything for me. Either way it’s a pretty weak reason for not using the tech. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 22, 2024 13:07:31 GMT
Can't get my head around that How can it not Do you continue to celebrate for the several minutes it often takes for them to make (often wrong) decision? Or do you celebrate then stop celebrating whilst you wait therefore having your celebration ruined? I just don’t think it’s that significant a thing. Celebrate, review, celebrate again. Or not. It only affects a few goals scored and you generally get a sense of whether there was anything wrong or not. Foden scored one in the euros that I didn’t celebrate at all while the rest of the room was jumping around because I knew it was going to get pulled back. None of it “ruins” anything for me. Either way it’s a pretty weak reason for not using the tech. celebrating a goal is probably the most significant thing in football, ruining that experience is as solid a reason as there can be for getting rid of VAR |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2024 13:37:44 GMT
Can't get my head around that How can it not Do you continue to celebrate for the several minutes it often takes for them to make (often wrong) decision? Or do you celebrate then stop celebrating whilst you wait therefore having your celebration ruined? I just don’t think it’s that significant a thing. Celebrate, review, celebrate again. Or not. It only affects a few goals scored and you generally get a sense of whether there was anything wrong or not. Foden scored one in the euros that I didn’t celebrate at all while the rest of the room was jumping around because I knew it was going to get pulled back. None of it “ruins” anything for me. Either way it’s a pretty weak reason for not using the tech. I had the precise same experience with the Phil goal. I thought the jumpers around me were a bit daft. |
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