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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 9, 2024 9:21:28 GMT
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Post by Gods on Nov 9, 2024 9:48:52 GMT
Daisy and her publisher know a gap in the Xmas book market when they see one!
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Post by dan55 on Nov 9, 2024 14:39:41 GMT
Needed it today. Awful decision.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 9, 2024 14:55:21 GMT
Needed it today. Awful decision. You win some and lose some. Our winner against Derby last week would probably have been disallowed for a foul on Phillips. But we might have won this one instead. Overall I still prefer the game without it and being able to properly celebrate goals without worrying that it might be taken away 5 minutes later after a lengthy VAR check. |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Nov 9, 2024 15:11:33 GMT
Needed it today. Awful decision. You win some and lose some. Our winner against Derby last week would probably have been disallowed for a foul on Phillips. But we might have won this one instead. Overall I still prefer the game without it and being able to properly celebrate goals without worrying that it might be taken away 5 minutes later after a lengthy VAR check. You mean where junior gets pushed into Philips by their player? Philips being a player who would have been sent off prior to that by VAR anyway for a shin high tackle on Junho. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 9, 2024 15:23:36 GMT
Needed it today. Awful decision. You win some and lose some. Our winner against Derby last week would probably have been disallowed for a foul on Phillips. But we might have won this one instead. Overall I still prefer the game without it and being able to properly celebrate goals without worrying that it might be taken away 5 minutes later after a lengthy VAR check. With VAR Phillips would have walked long before we scored our second!  |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 9, 2024 15:27:22 GMT
Needed it today. Awful decision. You win some and lose some. Our winner against Derby last week would probably have been disallowed for a foul on Phillips. But we might have won this one instead. Overall I still prefer the game without it and being able to properly celebrate goals without worrying that it might be taken away 5 minutes later after a lengthy VAR check. It’s very hard to look at a decision like that one today and argue that despite having the technology to fix it, we should continue allowing blatant errors in officiating to happen. Imagine if that had been in a playoff semifinal or something |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2024 23:27:55 GMT
How did it not give that penalty for the shirt pull against Liverpool?
Pointless fucking thing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2024 23:52:06 GMT
And then the Southampton goal that VAR disallowed, what the fuck 🤣🤦♂️
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Post by ElworthPotter on Nov 10, 2024 9:28:14 GMT
Needed it today. Awful decision. You win some and lose some. Our winner against Derby last week would probably have been disallowed for a foul on Phillips. But we might have won this one instead. Overall I still prefer the game without it and being able to properly celebrate goals without worrying that it might be taken away 5 minutes later after a lengthy VAR check. The 50/50s get evened out over the course of a season. That yesterday was not a 50/50. It was the most obvious penalty not given I’ve seen in a long long time and there’s no way that we’ll get one of those in our favour to even it out this season. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 10, 2024 10:39:02 GMT
No VAR for me thanks,unless it's only for penalties & goal line goals.
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Post by ravey123 on Nov 10, 2024 10:45:18 GMT
No VAR for me thanks,unless it's only for penalties & goal line goals. I think it should he like in tennis or cricket where each team gets 1 review. If the review is upheld then they keep the review but if a team uses their review frivolously ( like for nothing other than to time waste or break momentum in the last minute) then they lose their review for the following game. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2024 22:09:54 GMT
Looks like it disallowed a Barca goal for offside incorrectly just.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2024 22:12:31 GMT
Still don’t like it, never will unless they invent some way of doing it without stupid humans
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Post by PotteringThrough on Nov 10, 2024 23:33:08 GMT
I know Wolves have been shafted previously but those two decisions yesterday against Southampton were so poor.
There is no way if it was Man City or Liverpool that first one gets overturned and Wolves would be well aware of it.
A bigger team is getting either of those fouls blown for in real time, both of them were through the back and no touch on the ball - maybe soft but both fouls.
I genuinely think that there is some corruption involved to benefit the big boys - Wolves got those decisions yesterday as a bit of payback given the farcical decisions that have gone previously, which is totally wrong. Southampton will probably get some in return when they play a Fulham, Palace or Brentford and so on.
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Post by zommbee on Nov 11, 2024 22:21:23 GMT
You win some and lose some. Our winner against Derby last week would probably have been disallowed for a foul on Phillips. But we might have won this one instead. Overall I still prefer the game without it and being able to properly celebrate goals without worrying that it might be taken away 5 minutes later after a lengthy VAR check. It’s very hard to look at a decision like that one today and argue that despite having the technology to fix it, we should continue allowing blatant errors in officiating to happen. Imagine if that had been in a playoff semifinal or something There was some VAR controversy over in Chile involving your other team Univerisdad yesterday wasn't there PotterLog? Scored a late goal which was disallowed by VAR, a win would've meant a play off for the league title but they drew 1-1 and handed the title to great rivals Colo-Colo who only managed to draw 1-1 away at an already relegated team. |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 11, 2024 22:30:42 GMT
It’s very hard to look at a decision like that one today and argue that despite having the technology to fix it, we should continue allowing blatant errors in officiating to happen. Imagine if that had been in a playoff semifinal or something There was some VAR controversy over in Chile involving your other team Univerisdad yesterday wasn't there PotterLog? Scored a late goal which was disallowed by VAR, a win would've meant a play off for the league title but they drew 1-1 and handed the title to great rivals Colo-Colo who only managed to draw 1-1 away at an already relegated team. Excellent summary! Massive missed opportunity given Colo Colo dropping points. Ex-Chile star Marcelo Díaz was full of talk of a robbery but it sounded pretty lame tbh. It was a fair call, looked a foul in real time. They need to look at themselves for not doing the business at home. |
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Post by zommbee on Nov 11, 2024 23:11:50 GMT
There was some VAR controversy over in Chile involving your other team Univerisdad yesterday wasn't there PotterLog? Scored a late goal which was disallowed by VAR, a win would've meant a play off for the league title but they drew 1-1 and handed the title to great rivals Colo-Colo who only managed to draw 1-1 away at an already relegated team. Excellent summary! Massive missed opportunity given Colo Colo dropping points. Ex-Chile star Marcelo Díaz was full of talk of a robbery but it sounded pretty lame tbh. It was a fair call, looked a foul in real time. They need to look at themselves for not doing the business at home. Yes after seeing the replay VAR got it right. Universidad not winning when Colo-Colo slipped up was disastrous, didn't help that Everton needed a result for Sudamericana qualification though. At least Universidad are in the Chilean Cup final and have qualified for next years Libertadores, some silverware would top off an improved season. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 12, 2024 11:37:45 GMT
Have you seen Lewandowski's disallowed 'offside' goal? FUCK VAR.
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Post by skip on Nov 12, 2024 12:27:08 GMT
Have you seen Lewandowski's disallowed 'offside' goal? FUCK VAR. Got a link? Also, VAR can be used for instances such as Burgers non-penalty, but using it for wafer thin offsides is rubbish. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 19, 2024 12:40:04 GMT
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Post by mosquito on Nov 19, 2024 13:08:16 GMT
I was a great believe that technology was needed in the game as the faster it gets the more errors will occur. However, after watching VAR it in action. I think it kills the excitement of the game, having a 2 minute wait before you can react to a goal or pen decision. Killing the game for me and just allows for more corruption. If VAR is implimented, then the VAR crew should be up on the screen, so you can see the thought process and discussion, as the 'bigger' clubs seem to benefit more from decisions overall. I live game with flaws (refs) is part and parcel of the game!
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 21, 2024 19:17:23 GMT
I am - or was - fairly VAR-sceptic but they're weak arguments for scrapping it to be honest. "It takes a long time".. yeah well that can improve. It already is with the semi-automated offsides which are much quicker. "It removes the spontaneity and passion of celebrations".. I mean does it really? I don't find that. Even if it does, frankly get over it, disallowed goals aren't a new thing. "It's just more subjectivity" Well ultimately the decisions are subjective, yes, but VAR provides far more information to make the decisions accurately. "You still get errors" You do, but fewer. I'm a reluctant advocate but VAR is absolutely not going anywhere, as shown by the fact that every other PL club immediately rejected Wolves' daft motion to get rid of it last season. It's here to stay and things are generally fairer for it - I don't like the toenail-width offsides but we're just not used to that law being implemented to that level of precision, I think we just have to get used to it. Keep improving the integration and processes, eventually we won't have to keep on thinking and talking about it (I look forward to that day) |
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Post by lordb on Nov 21, 2024 20:10:06 GMT
I am - or was - fairly VAR-sceptic but they're weak arguments for scrapping it to be honest. "It takes a long time".. yeah well that can improve. It already is with the semi-automated offsides which are much quicker. "It removes the spontaneity and passion of celebrations".. I mean does it really? I don't find that. Even if it does, frankly get over it, disallowed goals aren't a new thing. "It's just more subjectivity" Well ultimately the decisions are subjective, yes, but VAR provides far more information to make the decisions accurately. "You still get errors" You do, but fewer. I'm a reluctant advocate but VAR is absolutely not going anywhere, as shown by the fact that every other PL club immediately rejected Wolves' daft motion to get rid of it last season. It's here to stay and things are generally fairer for it - I don't like the toenail-width offsides but we're just not used to that law being implemented to that level of precision, I think we just have to get used to it. Keep improving the integration and processes, eventually we won't have to keep on thinking and talking about it (I look forward to that day) Yes it absolutely ruins the celebration of goals , no ambiguity about that whatsoever |
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Post by scfcnicholas on Nov 21, 2024 20:28:41 GMT
I am - or was - fairly VAR-sceptic but they're weak arguments for scrapping it to be honest. "It takes a long time".. yeah well that can improve. It already is with the semi-automated offsides which are much quicker. "It removes the spontaneity and passion of celebrations".. I mean does it really? I don't find that. Even if it does, frankly get over it, disallowed goals aren't a new thing. "It's just more subjectivity" Well ultimately the decisions are subjective, yes, but VAR provides far more information to make the decisions accurately. "You still get errors" You do, but fewer. I'm a reluctant advocate but VAR is absolutely not going anywhere, as shown by the fact that every other PL club immediately rejected Wolves' daft motion to get rid of it last season. It's here to stay and things are generally fairer for it - I don't like the toenail-width offsides but we're just not used to that law being implemented to that level of precision, I think we just have to get used to it. Keep improving the integration and processes, eventually we won't have to keep on thinking and talking about it (I look forward to that day) You get a lot fewer errors, problem Is they get massively highlighted as people for some reason expect it to be infallible and also people will always find something to moan about. |
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Post by hughjarse on Nov 21, 2024 20:48:49 GMT
I am - or was - fairly VAR-sceptic but they're weak arguments for scrapping it to be honest. "It takes a long time".. yeah well that can improve. It already is with the semi-automated offsides which are much quicker. "It removes the spontaneity and passion of celebrations".. I mean does it really? I don't find that. Even if it does, frankly get over it, disallowed goals aren't a new thing. "It's just more subjectivity" Well ultimately the decisions are subjective, yes, but VAR provides far more information to make the decisions accurately. "You still get errors" You do, but fewer. I'm a reluctant advocate but VAR is absolutely not going anywhere, as shown by the fact that every other PL club immediately rejected Wolves' daft motion to get rid of it last season. It's here to stay and things are generally fairer for it - I don't like the toenail-width offsides but we're just not used to that law being implemented to that level of precision, I think we just have to get used to it. Keep improving the integration and processes, eventually we won't have to keep on thinking and talking about it (I look forward to that day) This is pretty much spot-on. The problem here is that VAR was introduced too quickly. For many years we had begged for goal-line technology to be introduced and although it seemed to be long overdue when it was brought in it had gone through all the rigorous testing that was necessary. On the back of this VAR was introduced before all the uncertainties had been ironed out. Make no mistake it is here to stay (rightly or wrongly) and all the posters on here that are suggesting it needs to go are living in fantasy land…it’s not going anywhere. Personally, the sooner it’s introduced into the Championship the better whilst acknowledging the current flaws. |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 21, 2024 20:58:46 GMT
I am - or was - fairly VAR-sceptic but they're weak arguments for scrapping it to be honest. "It takes a long time".. yeah well that can improve. It already is with the semi-automated offsides which are much quicker. "It removes the spontaneity and passion of celebrations".. I mean does it really? I don't find that. Even if it does, frankly get over it, disallowed goals aren't a new thing. "It's just more subjectivity" Well ultimately the decisions are subjective, yes, but VAR provides far more information to make the decisions accurately. "You still get errors" You do, but fewer. I'm a reluctant advocate but VAR is absolutely not going anywhere, as shown by the fact that every other PL club immediately rejected Wolves' daft motion to get rid of it last season. It's here to stay and things are generally fairer for it - I don't like the toenail-width offsides but we're just not used to that law being implemented to that level of precision, I think we just have to get used to it. Keep improving the integration and processes, eventually we won't have to keep on thinking and talking about it (I look forward to that day) Yes it absolutely ruins the celebration of goals , no ambiguity about that whatsoever It does for you, it doesn't for others. Sounds pretty ambiguous to me  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 21, 2024 21:03:32 GMT
It’s shite and isn’t required. What are the pros to it? Sport is meant to be in the moment, controversial and tribal. It’s cleansing the game to the point where the enthusiasm is being taken away from it. Goal line technology absolutely, an instant call and no ambiguity. The rest can get lost for me.
But, it’s here to stay so you either embrace it or find something else to do
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Post by lordb on Nov 22, 2024 8:41:30 GMT
Yes it absolutely ruins the celebration of goals , no ambiguity about that whatsoever It does for you, it doesn't for others. Sounds pretty ambiguous to me What others? It's the same experience for all fans at matches with VAR Or are you referring to those watching whilst stoned? |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 22, 2024 9:35:06 GMT
I am - or was - fairly VAR-sceptic but they're weak arguments for scrapping it to be honest. "It takes a long time".. yeah well that can improve. It already is with the semi-automated offsides which are much quicker. "It removes the spontaneity and passion of celebrations".. I mean does it really? I don't find that. Even if it does, frankly get over it, disallowed goals aren't a new thing. "It's just more subjectivity" Well ultimately the decisions are subjective, yes, but VAR provides far more information to make the decisions accurately. "You still get errors" You do, but fewer. I'm a reluctant advocate but VAR is absolutely not going anywhere, as shown by the fact that every other PL club immediately rejected Wolves' daft motion to get rid of it last season. It's here to stay and things are generally fairer for it - I don't like the toenail-width offsides but we're just not used to that law being implemented to that level of precision, I think we just have to get used to it. Keep improving the integration and processes, eventually we won't have to keep on thinking and talking about it (I look forward to that day) I reckon they rejected Wolves motion because they thought they'd be seen as old fashioned if they supported it |
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