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Post by oldschool on Nov 3, 2024 10:03:57 GMT
Might have been a decent player for us 30 odd years ago but why are radio stoke wheeling this pessimistic boring twat out now.
When him and Pej were both on a few weeks back I thought that was bad.
Got back in the car yesterday and heard him saying we shouldn’t have had the pen and that if it was the prem it would be chalked off. Firstly as cannon may have been offside and the contact wasn’t enough. Just watched it back and he’s probably inside and the keeper grabs his ankle.
Time for Radio Stoke to stop wheeling this geezer out I reckon.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 3, 2024 10:11:10 GMT
I think he was only saying what most neutrals were saying, the offside was a tight call and the gk hardly grabbed his ankle, just put a glove on his shin. Having felt the touch, and even left his foot behind, inviting it, Cannon went down to give the referee a decision to make and I am convinced the outcome would be the same with VAR.
As for Cranson it depends whether you want your summariser/analyser to be objective and honest or biased. It won't affect the result either way. I prefer a bit of honesty.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 3, 2024 10:32:39 GMT
I think he was only saying what most neutrals were saying, the offside was a tight call and the gk hardly grabbed his ankle, just put a glove on his shin. Having felt the touch, and even left his foot behind, inviting it, Cannon went down to give the referee a decision to make and I am convinced the outcome would be the same with VAR. As for Cranson it depends whether you want your summariser/analyser to be objective and honest or biased. It won't affect the result either way. I prefer a bit of honesty. Not sure about the offside but once the ref gives that penalty there is absolutely no way VAR are overturning it there was clear contact…. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2024 10:33:18 GMT
The peno was a massive dive so if he was suggesting that he’s spot on. But I’d add the caveat that it’s exactly what you want your striker doing.
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Post by Picasso on Nov 3, 2024 11:03:48 GMT
I don’t often listen to Radio Stoke commentary as I’m at the game, but I think it’s sad to read comments like the OP’s, where ex-players are deemed ‘twats’ and such, because they’ve said something on the radio that they disagree with or have displayed lacklustre punditry.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 3, 2024 12:04:29 GMT
Thought this thread was going to be about the sad bastard that posts on here😉
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Post by neckender78 on Nov 3, 2024 12:08:09 GMT
Superb player for us part of a rock solid defence for us in the 90s the like we can only dream about today.
Never listen to Radio Stoke so cant comment on what he says there would prefer to remember the warrior in defence at the Vic partnering big Vince
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Post by marwood on Nov 3, 2024 12:21:21 GMT
loved him as a player.
As a commentator:-
He sounds like he's turned up at the ground direct from the boozer and hasnt slept for 3 days
On arrival they give him a pint of wine and put a sock over the microphone which is located on the other side of the studio
Put him with a Sohail and he will occasionally drag the subject back to football
Put him with George Potterlytic and he will occasionally be a good counterpoint as a former player
but
put him next to Pejic and its slash your wrists at the 'Old Players Social Club' time
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 3, 2024 12:24:36 GMT
I listened to the whole RS commentary. Cranny was OK and he was honest about his summary. What's pi**ing me off is Sohail's commentary... or lack of it. He mumbles on about anything except what's going on on the pitch. I wish I had a stopwatch. I'm pretty sure his commentary on the actual goings on during the last two games wouldn't add up to 25% of the action. I got to the point where I was shouting at the wireless, "F**k off!" as he kept repeating the phrase... "Coming to you on all frequencies" Etc. He really is the worst radio commentator I've ever heard.
OS.
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Post by stokieinlondon on Nov 3, 2024 12:30:29 GMT
Might have been a decent player for us 30 odd years ago but why are radio stoke wheeling this pessimistic boring twat out now. When him and Pej were both on a few weeks back I thought that was bad. Got back in the car yesterday and heard him saying we shouldn’t have had the pen and that if it was the prem it would be chalked off. Firstly as cannon may have been offside and the contact wasn’t enough. Just watched it back and he’s probably inside and the keeper grabs his ankle. Time for Radio Stoke to stop wheeling this geezer out I reckon. So you just want a fan on the commentary, who says Stoke are brilliant and deserve only good decisions from officials? I agree with him. It was touch and go on the offside, but I think he was just on. The penalty gets given 99 times out of a hundred, but he did dive. He could’ve stayed on his feet. But do I care? Not one bit. |
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Post by Picasso on Nov 3, 2024 13:27:23 GMT
I listened to the whole RS commentary. Cranny was OK and he was honest about his summary. What's pi**ing me off is Sohail's commentary... or lack of it. He mumbles on about anything except what's going on on the pitch. I wish I had a stopwatch. I'm pretty sure his commentary on the actual goings on during the last two games wouldn't add up to 25% of the action. I got to the point where I was shouting at the wireless, "F**k off!" as he kept repeating the phrase... "Coming to you on all frequencies" Etc. He really is the worst radio commentator I've ever heard. OS. I thought everyone had a stopwatch these days 😉 |
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Post by sportsman on Nov 3, 2024 13:45:27 GMT
I don’t often listen to Radio Stoke commentary as I’m at the game, but I think it’s sad to read comments like the OP’s, where ex-players are deemed ‘twats’ and such, because they’ve said something on the radio that they disagree with or have displayed lacklustre punditry. Exactly. There’s only one twat on this thread and it isn’t cranson |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Nov 3, 2024 13:53:13 GMT
Striker goes down easy in penalty area shocker 🙄🙄
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Post by UNKLE on Nov 3, 2024 14:15:30 GMT
I was listening to the pre game build up on RS and Cranson was asked what Seko will bring to the midfield and he replied he hadn’t seen enough to comment. In the days of you tube clips and correspondence from abroad you’d think a paid summariser would have done some homework to provide the uninformed listener with additional insight. Alas no.
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Post by frasier37 on Nov 3, 2024 14:30:44 GMT
I was listening to the pre game build up on RS and Cranson was asked what Seko will bring to the midfield and he replied he hadn’t seen enough to comment. In the days of you tube clips and correspondence from abroad you’d think a paid summariser would have done some homework to provide the uninformed listener with additional insight. Alas no. It's local bbc radio not sky sports |
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Post by logdog on Nov 3, 2024 14:37:41 GMT
Penalty everytime for me. As soon as the keeper puts his hand on Cannon’s foot he’s given the ref a decision to make. Cannon was switched on & went down. Intelligent play on his part, something our recent stable of strikers probably wouldn’t been clever enough to do. He would have got dogs abuse by plenty on here if he’d stayed on his feet.
As for Cranny he’s pretty dour but he knows his stuff. Sohail is shocking. Sheffield United scored a goal last week & the first we knew about it the crowd were cheering & the ball was in the net. He was too busy chatting shite to describe any build up play.
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Post by skip on Nov 3, 2024 16:42:53 GMT
Sohail rules. Regional football commentator par excellence.
Don't touch that dial and pass me the half time sweeties.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 3, 2024 17:15:15 GMT
Personally don't mind Pej.... And the only thing I've got against Crannie is that he sounds dull!!!
Liam Lawrence was by far and away the best co-commentator!!!
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 3, 2024 17:20:55 GMT
It annoys me too that most of our former players are so negative when commentating our games. Even when we played Portsmouth and were leading 6-1 the focus was negative!  |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Nov 3, 2024 18:15:59 GMT
Only criticism I’ve got of cranson was seeing him in stone with wolves gear on, bought a tear to my eye.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 3, 2024 18:23:28 GMT
Thought this thread was going to be about the sad bastard that posts on here😉 Bayern? |
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Post by ChesterStokie on Nov 3, 2024 18:41:41 GMT
I was listening to the pre game build up on RS and Cranson was asked what Seko will bring to the midfield and he replied he hadn’t seen enough to comment. In the days of you tube clips and correspondence from abroad you’d think a paid summariser would have done some homework to provide the uninformed listener with additional insight. Alas no. It's local bbc radio not sky sports Totally disagree. A paid pundit on the BBC should have done some basic research and should have been able to make a few comments about Seko. I certainly could and I’d say most people on The Oatcake would have been able to say something. The fact that he couldn’t is embarrassing for all concerned. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2024 18:44:16 GMT
It's local bbc radio not sky sports Totally disagree. A paid pundit on the BBC should have done some basic research and should have been able to make a few comments about Seko. I certainly could and I’d say most people on The Oatcake would have been able to say something. The fact that he couldn’t is embarrassing for all concerned. Get what you mean but also kind of respect someone saying that having not seen them with their own eyes. I mean it was widely said on here that he could be a right back which just seems mental. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 3, 2024 18:46:37 GMT
I get the impression he doesn’t actually watch that much football and just speaks as an ex player because he’s played it.
He does however sound like he’s been dragged out of bed after an all dayer
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Post by ChesterStokie on Nov 3, 2024 18:50:02 GMT
Totally disagree. A paid pundit on the BBC should have done some basic research and should have been able to make a few comments about Seko. I certainly could and I’d say most people on The Oatcake would have been able to say something. The fact that he couldn’t is embarrassing for all concerned. Get what you mean but also kind of respect someone saying that having not seen them with their own eyes. I mean it was widely said on here that he could be a right back which just seems mental. Are we saying that Cranson, knowing he was going to be a BBC pundit on the Saturday, hadn’t even bothered to watch the stream of our game at Southampton on the Tuesday? If he had watched it he would have had something to say about Seko. The fact that he had nothing to say about Seko suggest he hadn’t bothered to watch it which is a disgrace. |
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 3, 2024 19:00:37 GMT
I get the impression he doesn’t actually watch that much football and just speaks as an ex player because he’s played it. He does however sound like he’s been dragged out of bed after an all dayer Only catch snippets of his comments on Faze and mumble .... Seems a reet miserable sod. Used to like Foghorn Gleghorn. Love to know how much they get paid for the Saturday gig. Probably not a lot. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2024 19:01:50 GMT
Get what you mean but also kind of respect someone saying that having not seen them with their own eyes. I mean it was widely said on here that he could be a right back which just seems mental. Are we saying that Cranson, knowing he was going to be a BBC pundit on the Saturday, hadn’t even bothered to watch the stream of our game at Southampton on the Tuesday? If he had watched it he would have had something to say about Seko. The fact that he had nothing to say about Seko suggest he hadn’t bothered to watch it which is a disgrace. Again get what you mean but he may not have Sky and can you buy the stream as a UK resident? I can’t imagine they get paid that much to pay to watch a game so they might be able to say something about them. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 3, 2024 19:02:57 GMT
Are we saying that Cranson, knowing he was going to be a BBC pundit on the Saturday, hadn’t even bothered to watch the stream of our game at Southampton on the Tuesday? If he had watched it he would have had something to say about Seko. The fact that he had nothing to say about Seko suggest he hadn’t bothered to watch it which is a disgrace. Again get what you mean but he may not have Sky and can you buy the stream as a UK resident? I can’t imagine they get paid that much to pay to watch a game so they might be able to say something about them. He must be one of the very few without a dodgy fire stick 😉 |
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Post by paulkoz on Nov 3, 2024 19:35:25 GMT
I think the problem is that all the commentators are pessimistic so there is no counter balance.
If I was in charge of reporting Stoke City matches or any ones matches really I'd set it up like this.
1 person who reports all the action of the game if the ball is in play they do nothing but describe the action. 1 person being positive about Stoke City's play and just generally mentioning positive stuff about the club. And another person being negative about whats going on, where they can improve that kinda thing.
At least then you've got all angles covered and listeners are getting a wider view of everything.
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Post by ParaPsych on Nov 3, 2024 19:41:54 GMT
When we got promoted on 2008 people used to give Denis Smith shit for being too positive and suggesting the club had basically threatened Radio Stoke insisting on positive coverage.
More likely Denis is a glass half full bloke and we were actually pretty damned good. And Cranny is a bit glass half empty and we've been fucking wank for years.
I don't think any of them should be getting called twats tbh.
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