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Post by PotterLog on Nov 2, 2024 17:13:17 GMT
Don’t get how that’s gone down as Viktor’s og? Surely if the header had been from a Derby player it would’ve been his goal?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 2, 2024 17:14:54 GMT
Don’t get how that’s gone down as Viktor’s og? Surely if the header had been from a Derby player it would’ve been his goal? Did he not flap it into his own net? He got to it then slapped it against the inside of the post |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:16:31 GMT
His is the last touch so it’ll his, it’s 80% Gibsons fault though if not more
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 2, 2024 17:17:43 GMT
His is the last touch so it’ll his, it’s 80% Gibsons fault though if not more 6 of one and half a dozen the other for me. It was one of those once a season moments of madness |
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 2, 2024 17:18:34 GMT
Don’t get how that’s gone down as Viktor’s og? Surely if the header had been from a Derby player it would’ve been his goal? Did he not flap it into his own net? He got to it then slapped it against the inside of the post I mean I guess so but it was still just an attempt to save a ball that was going in anyway |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 2, 2024 17:21:36 GMT
Did he not flap it into his own net? He got to it then slapped it against the inside of the post I mean I guess so but it was still just an attempt to save a ball that was going in anyway I see your point, don’t know really how they come to these decisions. I’m sure someone with a greater knowledge will tell us |
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Post by eddyclamp on Nov 2, 2024 18:16:55 GMT
You were taught in the old days to never pass back in front of your own goal,times have changed for some reason,only the players will know and argue it out between themselves
We got all 3 points in the end, but pound for pound our keeper looks like one of best signings we have made for years
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Post by PotterLog on Nov 2, 2024 18:22:36 GMT
I mean I guess so but it was still just an attempt to save a ball that was going in anyway I see your point, don’t know really how they come to these decisions. I’m sure someone with a greater knowledge will tell us I just think there’s no way that goes down as an own goal if it was an opposition player that headed it, I don’t see why it should be any different. That said it was a bit of a fail from Vik, having done the hard part in making up the ground |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Nov 2, 2024 18:40:36 GMT
Send it to the dubious goals committee.
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 2, 2024 18:51:18 GMT
I mean I guess so but it was still just an attempt to save a ball that was going in anyway I see your point, don’t know really how they come to these decisions. I’m sure someone with a greater knowledge will tell us It goes down as a Viktor own goal because his attempt actually changed the direction of the ball away from the goal line until it hit the inside of the post and went in |
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Nov 2, 2024 18:52:53 GMT
You were taught in the old days to never pass back in front of your own goal,times have changed for some reason,only the players will know and argue it out between themselves We got all 3 points in the end, but pound for pound our keeper looks like one of best signings we have made for years It's not even an old days thing - it's a basic rule as a defender/midfielder, if you're going back to your keeper either in the ground or heading it back, make sure it's off-target. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 2, 2024 18:53:47 GMT
Johansson's fault, but he's got gallons of credit in the bank with his performances so far this season, so think he deserves some slack.
Plus we won which always makes that easier.
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Post by thehoof on Nov 2, 2024 19:00:57 GMT
Gibson should not have headed the ball back at the goal- the number of times we’ve moaned about Keepers who won’t come for a cross, Johanson has come to collect a ball that would drop harmlessly into our area: clearly he should have made Gibson hear his call, but Gibson was under no pressure and only had to head it a yard outside of the post, not at the goal.
70:30 to me- 30 on Viktoor for not shouting loud enough, 70 on Gibson for being under no pressure and heading at goal.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 2, 2024 19:07:14 GMT
It's on the keeper,absolutely ridiculous that people are blaming Gibson.
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2024 19:09:54 GMT
Completely on Gibson,you don't head back to the keeper unless you know where he is.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Nov 2, 2024 19:14:36 GMT
Surely it depends on who shouted what and who didn't listen? Or who didn't shout when they should have. They're both big characters so I imagine one of them might just openly take the blame in their next interview. Since we won, they could easily make a joke out of it
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 2, 2024 19:15:01 GMT
Completely on Gibson,you don't head back to the keeper unless you know where he is. Come off it man,where the fuck was the keeper standing? |
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2024 19:18:14 GMT
Completely on Gibson,you don't head back to the keeper unless you know where he is. Come off it man,where the fuck was the keeper standing? In the wrong place Which Gibson should have been aware of before heading the ball back to his own goal |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 2, 2024 19:19:13 GMT
Come off it man,where the fuck was the keeper standing? In the wrong place Which Gibson should have been aware of before heading the ball back to his own goal So,not completely on Gibson then? |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 2, 2024 19:19:17 GMT
It's on the keeper,absolutely ridiculous that people are blaming Gibson. Completely agree. I love Vik. And I’m undecided about Gibson (veering towards not a fan) But that’s Vik’s fault all day every day. |
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Post by fortressbritannia on Nov 2, 2024 19:19:42 GMT
Gibson should not have headed the ball back at the goal- the number of times we’ve moaned about Keepers who won’t come for a cross, Johanson has come to collect a ball that would drop harmlessly into our area: clearly he should have made Gibson hear his call, but Gibson was under no pressure and only had to head it a yard outside of the post, not at the goal. 70:30 to me- 30 on Viktoor for not shouting loud enough, 70 on Gibson for being under no pressure and heading at goal. I've watched the goal back several times now. There's no way on this planet the ball was dropping harmlessly into our area. It was piss poor play from Johansson, had Gibson not headed it. Most likely it would've fallen to Steven who would've been under pressure from the Derby winger and Johansson would've still been in an awful position. We were 1-0 up a header back to Johansson was the least risky ball for us to retain possession. I agree with you about making sure any back pass is not on target. For me it's 70:30 but the opposite to you with Johansson taking most of the blame |
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2024 19:20:02 GMT
In the wrong place Which Gibson should have been aware of before heading the ball back to his own goal So,not completely on Gibson then? Yes completely on him, you don't head the ball back to the keeper unless you know where he is |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 2, 2024 19:22:35 GMT
So,not completely on Gibson then? Yes completely on him, you don't head the ball back to the keeper unless you know where he is Can’t agree. I thought it was Gibson at the match. Watching it now it’s definitely more Vic. As someone says above 70/30 on the keeper. |
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Post by onyourbonce on Nov 2, 2024 19:27:13 GMT
I was fucking berating Gibson from the boothen end when the header went towards goal and ended up in the net…..then I saw the replay, if your nodding a harmless ball back from 25 yards out with no pressure you expect you goalkeeper to be at home! Regardless of communication, and even still vik got there and should have kept it out. He’s an amazing keeper top notch, but it was on him more than Gibson there’s no doubt. I said to my lad 5 minutes before the only way derby will score is if we make a mistake….then that happened!
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Post by stokeoptimist on Nov 2, 2024 19:30:04 GMT
If you watch the GK he was coming out to his left where he thought the cross was heading. Then the defender headed the ball back to where he expected the GK to be so 50/50 but who cares we won. UTMFP
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 2, 2024 19:30:41 GMT
In the ground I'm thinking Gibson was completely at fault and I'm like what a stupid header back. Watching it back I take it back because as much as I love Vik I feel it's as much his fault as it is Gibson's.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 2, 2024 19:38:48 GMT
So,not completely on Gibson then? Yes completely on him, you don't head the ball back to the keeper unless you know where he is You've just said the keeper was standing in the wrong place,that makes him culpable,surely? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 2, 2024 19:52:04 GMT
You were taught in the old days to never pass back in front of your own goal,times have changed for some reason,only the players will know and argue it out between themselves We got all 3 points in the end, but pound for pound our keeper looks like one of best signings we have made for years We aren’t in the old days and the keeper is very much part of the 11, Viktor especially as he’s good with ball at his feet. As good as he is, he’s gifted the opposition 2 goals in 2 weeks. Bonham does that today and he’s slaughtered. |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 2, 2024 19:55:36 GMT
You were taught in the old days to never pass back in front of your own goal,times have changed for some reason,only the players will know and argue it out between themselves We got all 3 points in the end, but pound for pound our keeper looks like one of best signings we have made for years We aren’t in the old days and the keeper is very much part of the 11, Viktor especially as he’s good with ball at his feet. As good as he is, he’s gifted the opposition 2 goals in 2 weeks. Bonham does that today and he’s slaughtered. He's not that good imo,loves a save for the cameras,would have preferred Travers back. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 2, 2024 20:00:03 GMT
We aren’t in the old days and the keeper is very much part of the 11, Viktor especially as he’s good with ball at his feet. As good as he is, he’s gifted the opposition 2 goals in 2 weeks. Bonham does that today and he’s slaughtered. He's not that good imo,loves a save for the cameras,would have preferred Travers back. Fair to say there is no way Travers makes that mistake today, mainly because he was glued to his line. Viktor will definitely make more mistakes than Travers but he’ll also win us more points, as he’s done already this season. |
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