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Post by a on Nov 11, 2024 21:05:01 GMT
Get Ennis gone, loan for Tezgel, get in RB, AM and a striker and it’ll be a good window
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Post by loustokiefc on Nov 17, 2024 4:50:31 GMT
If Pelach is going to insist on the 442 then its quite obvious what we need. Two strikers, a cm and rb bare minimum. Tez and Ennis obviously nowhere near it and need to go on loan. Meaning we only have 2 strikers at the club and one of those (Gallagher) doesn’t look capable of more than 10 appearances a season. If Cannon gets injured then we dont currently have a single striker capable of playing at this level.
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Post by lordb on Nov 17, 2024 9:26:44 GMT
If Pelach is going to insist on the 442 then its quite obvious what we need. Two strikers, a cm and rb bare minimum. Tez and Ennis obviously nowhere near it and need to go on loan. Meaning we only have 2 strikers at the club and one of those (Gallagher) doesn’t look capable of more than 10 appearances a season. If Cannon gets injured then we dont currently have a single striker capable of playing at this level. Koumas |
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 17, 2024 9:31:37 GMT
If Pelach is going to insist on the 442 then its quite obvious what we need. Two strikers, a cm and rb bare minimum. Tez and Ennis obviously nowhere near it and need to go on loan. Meaning we only have 2 strikers at the club and one of those (Gallagher) doesn’t look capable of more than 10 appearances a season. If Cannon gets injured then we dont currently have a single striker capable of playing at this level. I’m not so sure we need a right back now. Junior has improved recently and we have Wilmot who can easily move across and play there if necessary. We need to try and find a permanent centre forward if possible, but January is notoriously difficult. |
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Post by bolders on Nov 17, 2024 10:36:24 GMT
If Pelach is going to insist on the 442 then its quite obvious what we need. Two strikers, a cm and rb bare minimum. Tez and Ennis obviously nowhere near it and need to go on loan. Meaning we only have 2 strikers at the club and one of those (Gallagher) doesn’t look capable of more than 10 appearances a season. If Cannon gets injured then we dont currently have a single striker capable of playing at this level. I’m not so sure we need a right back now. Junior has improved recently and we have Wilmot who can easily move across and play there if necessary. We need to try and find a permanent centre forward if possible, but January is notoriously difficult. If junior gets injured for any length of time I don’t fancy having Wilmot or Gouch as our right back for an extended period. I’d like to see if we can find someone like Enda for the right hand side for 6 months |
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 17, 2024 11:24:08 GMT
I’m not so sure we need a right back now. Junior has improved recently and we have Wilmot who can easily move across and play there if necessary. We need to try and find a permanent centre forward if possible, but January is notoriously difficult. If junior gets injured for any length of time I don’t fancy having Wilmot or Gouch as our right back for an extended period. I’d like to see if we can find someone like Enda for the right hand side for 6 months I’d see that as a waste of a salary. I don’t think we need to be signing players as cover in case someone gets injured. That’s where you need versatile players who can step in. Looking ahead, next season we will need replacements for Cannon and Moran, ideally we need to be looking to get permanent players in these positions instead of sticking plaster short term solutions. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 17, 2024 12:53:42 GMT
If Ennis leaves, and we sign no one that will do
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 17, 2024 14:45:08 GMT
If Ennis leaves, and we sign no one that will do Much rather keep Ennis than vidigal we have wide players who can stand up and two that can shot Ennis can at least provide some energy as a sub |
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Post by lordb on Nov 17, 2024 15:02:50 GMT
If Ennis leaves, and we sign no one that will do Much rather keep Ennis than vidigal we have wide players who can stand up and two that can shot Ennis can at least provide some energy as a sub But can't score Videgal looks poor,he can go too but he can score |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 18, 2024 10:07:08 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-narcis-pelach-9719958“He does bring good names,” said Walters. “He did the same at Norwich. He’s coached some very good players when he was younger who are now playing at a high level. They all really like him and we’ve had players asking to come here, which is good and it’s a matter of whether we can do it. They know what he’s like and what he produces. There are names that people won’t have heard of, similar to what he did at other clubs. That’s a good thing.”
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Post by lordb on Nov 18, 2024 10:44:41 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-narcis-pelach-9719958“He does bring good names,” said Walters. “He did the same at Norwich. He’s coached some very good players when he was younger who are now playing at a high level. They all really like him and we’ve had players asking to come here, which is good and it’s a matter of whether we can do it. They know what he’s like and what he produces. There are names that people won’t have heard of, similar to what he did at other clubs. That’s a good thing.” so the manager/head coach does get a say in transfers then? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 18, 2024 11:30:18 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-narcis-pelach-9719958“He does bring good names,” said Walters. “He did the same at Norwich. He’s coached some very good players when he was younger who are now playing at a high level. They all really like him and we’ve had players asking to come here, which is good and it’s a matter of whether we can do it. They know what he’s like and what he produces. There are names that people won’t have heard of, similar to what he did at other clubs. That’s a good thing.” so the manager/head coach does get a say in transfers then? They always have though haven't they? There should be a clear strategy and a veto where required but I always envisaged all key stakeholders have some input in to the actual personnel...... |
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Post by lordb on Nov 18, 2024 12:01:28 GMT
so the manager/head coach does get a say in transfers then? They always have though haven't they? There should be a clear strategy and a veto where required but I always envisaged all key stakeholders have some input in to the actual personnel...... I don't think Schumacher had any say last summer (whereas January window he did) |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 18, 2024 12:06:12 GMT
They always have though haven't they? There should be a clear strategy and a veto where required but I always envisaged all key stakeholders have some input in to the actual personnel...... I don't think Schumacher had any say last summer (whereas January window he did) I'm not sure I buy that mate and if he didn't I'd argue it's probably best he's no longer at the helm. I struggle to think when the leadership team sit down with a remit of the type of players we want to sign the coach wouldn't be able to put forward some suggestions at least. Ashley Phillips on loan for example...... |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 18, 2024 15:44:43 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-narcis-pelach-9719958“He does bring good names,” said Walters. “He did the same at Norwich. He’s coached some very good players when he was younger who are now playing at a high level. They all really like him and we’ve had players asking to come here, which is good and it’s a matter of whether we can do it. They know what he’s like and what he produces. There are names that people won’t have heard of, similar to what he did at other clubs. That’s a good thing.” so the manager/head coach does get a say in transfers then? I would hope so. Thing is they don't lead the recruitment process, they contribute whereas the old school manager would be the key decision maker. If Pelach says he would like a player and he doesn't fit in with the profile of player set by the SD it won't happen whereas if Neil (for example) said he wanted a player the club would support his choice if the money was available. |
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Post by northernstokie on Nov 18, 2024 15:58:55 GMT
That dont really say much though as players are asking to join could be anyone.
Don't mean they are better than what we have
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Nov 18, 2024 16:44:11 GMT
That dont really say much though as players are asking to join could be anyone. Don't mean they are better than what we have Walter's said player's he's coached before playing at a higher level. Cautionary note he also said we may not be able to 'do it! |
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Post by loustokiefc on Nov 18, 2024 17:05:05 GMT
They always have though haven't they? There should be a clear strategy and a veto where required but I always envisaged all key stakeholders have some input in to the actual personnel...... I don't think Schumacher had any say last summer (whereas January window he did) This is false. Head Coach/Manager always gets final say. Been spoken about multiple times |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 18, 2024 17:06:26 GMT
That dont really say much though as players are asking to join could be anyone. Don't mean they are better than what we have Are you a cockney? Getting Dick Van Dyke vibes |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 18, 2024 17:14:34 GMT
That dont really say much though as players are asking to join could be anyone. Don't mean they are better than what we have Are you a cockney? Getting Dick Van Dyke vibes Yes because he was a famous cockernee wasn't he?  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 18, 2024 17:17:14 GMT
Are you a cockney? Getting Dick Van Dyke vibes Yes because he was a famous cockernee wasn't he? That’s why I’m asking😉 |
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Post by lordb on Nov 18, 2024 17:21:01 GMT
I don't think Schumacher had any say last summer (whereas January window he did) This is false. Head Coach/Manager always gets final say. Been spoken about multiple times Pre Walters would agree |
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Post by somersetpotter on Nov 18, 2024 17:26:35 GMT
Walters statement is saying he's 'bringing names', I'm sure Schuey did the same. Difference will be that he told Schuey to fuck off and they're 'considering' Pelach's instead. In the new setup, I'm sure the manager doesn't have that much say but Pelach will be influencing the discussion
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Post by chamberlain on Nov 18, 2024 17:34:06 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-narcis-pelach-9719958“He does bring good names,” said Walters. “He did the same at Norwich. He’s coached some very good players when he was younger who are now playing at a high level. They all really like him and we’ve had players asking to come here, which is good and it’s a matter of whether we can do it. They know what he’s like and what he produces. There are names that people won’t have heard of, similar to what he did at other clubs. That’s a good thing.” so the manager/head coach does get a say in transfers then? I wouldn't think there are many coaches who would go to a club where they had no input into recruitment. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 18, 2024 17:48:49 GMT
Yes because he was a famous cockernee wasn't he? That’s why I’m asking😉 Awite Mawy Poppins. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 18, 2024 17:53:36 GMT
so the manager/head coach does get a say in transfers then? I wouldn't think there are many coaches who would go to a club where they had no input into recruitment. No but given Pelach lack of credentials suspicion would be he was someone who would take the job despite that Looking at Watford theres no chance their managers get a say on recruitment there |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 18, 2024 17:58:38 GMT
They always have though haven't they? There should be a clear strategy and a veto where required but I always envisaged all key stakeholders have some input in to the actual personnel...... I don't think Schumacher had any say last summer (whereas January window he did) Probably because he wasn’t our manager/HC. Our manager/HC’s have always had a big input. No problem with it being a nuanced approach JD bought in players with an eye on the future AN bought in crap journeymen he’d worked with previously who hold no future value and long-standing liability. I hope we never go back to a one dimensional approach. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 18, 2024 18:00:04 GMT
I don't think Schumacher had any say last summer (whereas January window he did) Probably because he wasn’t our manager/HC. Our manager/HC’s have always had a big input. No problem with it being a nuanced approach JD bought in players with an eye on the future AN bought in crap journeymen he’d worked with previously who hold no future value and long-standing liability. I hope we never go back to a one dimensional approach. Schumacher took over December 2023, before the January window |
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Post by loustokiefc on Nov 18, 2024 18:00:07 GMT
This is false. Head Coach/Manager always gets final say. Been spoken about multiple times Pre Walters would agree Lol i take it you don’t listen to any of Walters interviews then |
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Post by lordb on Nov 18, 2024 18:02:02 GMT
Lol i take it you don’t listen to any of Walters interviews then Yes but just not convinced he allows the manager a say on transfers Or maybe it was just that he wanted Schumacher out last summer as such blocked his transfers He might have a different view now |
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