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Post by delilahwhy on Nov 6, 2024 13:23:27 GMT
So we're pinning all of that on Gibson are we? We're not looking at what the midfield are offering during games? Or the deficiencies we've seen at full back? Or just the all round performance of the whole team? As I said, absolute hyperbole, from the ultimate message board troll. It’s almost like it’s his job to stop it happening… How dare we expect a defender to you know, defend. The full backs have been crap too. And not it’s not. We have the most worked keeper in the league and Gibson has looked every inch an old over the hill plodder. Hes an easy target. He's not been perfect but he's also not the biggest problem. The bigger names. The star players. The likes of Burger and Junho have (on the whole) been so poor this season. But its easy to pick on Gibson. The reality is, he's a decent player and far from being a problem for us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 6, 2024 13:28:44 GMT
It’s almost like it’s his job to stop it happening… How dare we expect a defender to you know, defend. The full backs have been crap too. And not it’s not. We have the most worked keeper in the league and Gibson has looked every inch an old over the hill plodder. Hes an easy target. He's not been perfect but he's also not the biggest problem. The bigger names. The star players. The likes of Burger and Junho have (on the whole) been so poor this season. But its easy to pick on Gibson. The reality is, he's a decent player and far from being a problem for us. He’s one of the bigger names at the club 🤣indeed I would hazard a guess most fans of other clubs would know him over everyone else in our squad. They have and they’ve been called out on that.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Nov 6, 2024 13:38:07 GMT
It’s almost like it’s his job to stop it happening… How dare we expect a defender to you know, defend. The full backs have been crap too. And not it’s not. We have the most worked keeper in the league and Gibson has looked every inch an old over the hill plodder. Hes an easy target. He's not been perfect but he's also not the biggest problem. The bigger names. The star players. The likes of Burger and Junho have (on the whole) been so poor this season. But its easy to pick on Gibson. The reality is, he's a decent player and far from being a problem for us. Hes absolutely woeful. Phillips and a new CB in January for me. Rose and Gibson as backup
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Post by delilahwhy on Nov 6, 2024 13:43:15 GMT
Hes an easy target. He's not been perfect but he's also not the biggest problem. The bigger names. The star players. The likes of Burger and Junho have (on the whole) been so poor this season. But its easy to pick on Gibson. The reality is, he's a decent player and far from being a problem for us. Hes absolutely woeful. Phillips and a new CB in January for me. Rose and Gibson as backup "Hes absolutely woeful" Hes absolutely not.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 6, 2024 13:44:12 GMT
If we can get decent money for Wilmot in January I'd sell him and get a CB that we can trust. It's been far too long since we've had anyone who was good in all aspects of defending. I presume we'd be able to get the most money for Wilmot as well.
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 6, 2024 14:15:26 GMT
No one seems to buy or sell much in January any more.
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Post by thornestein on Nov 6, 2024 16:54:45 GMT
It’s almost like it’s his job to stop it happening… How dare we expect a defender to you know, defend. The full backs have been crap too. And not it’s not. We have the most worked keeper in the league and Gibson has looked every inch an old over the hill plodder. Hes an easy target. He's not been perfect but he's also not the biggest problem. The bigger names. The star players. The likes of Burger and Junho have (on the whole) been so poor this season. But its easy to pick on Gibson. The reality is, he's a decent player and far from being a problem for us. the point is he’s below standard and that’s the risk you get when signing someone o er 30 , though it seems we do it a lot
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Nov 6, 2024 17:05:01 GMT
Hes an easy target. He's not been perfect but he's also not the biggest problem. The bigger names. The star players. The likes of Burger and Junho have (on the whole) been so poor this season. But its easy to pick on Gibson. The reality is, he's a decent player and far from being a problem for us. the point is he’s below standard and that’s the risk you get when signing someone o er 30 , though it seems we do it a lot Being way over 30 wasn't a problem for Thiago Silva. I don't think 31 is too old but he does seem a bit carthorse like to me. I expected far more from him and didn't realsie his time at Burnley was such an unmitigated disaster.
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Post by thornestein on Nov 6, 2024 17:23:06 GMT
the point is he’s below standard and that’s the risk you get when signing someone o er 30 , though it seems we do it a lot Being way over 30 wasn't a problem for Thiago Silva. I don't think 31 is too old but he does seem a bit carthorse like to me. I expected far more from him and didn't realsie his time at Burnley was such an unmitigated disaster. i’m not saying every over 30 signing is bad , but it is a risk
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Post by Middle White Stripe on Nov 6, 2024 17:23:25 GMT
Scouring ukraine for a cheap superstar apparently....
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Nov 6, 2024 18:38:35 GMT
Hes absolutely woeful. Phillips and a new CB in January for me. Rose and Gibson as backup "Hes absolutely woeful" Hes absolutely not. He's very poor. How the hell we gave him a 3yr contract and possibly highest paid player too. Can't pass, slow, doesn't bully opponents. Just a very very average player.
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Post by a on Nov 7, 2024 19:23:12 GMT
Just noticed Ryan Kent, LW from Rangers then Fenerbache is a free agent, only 27. Wonder if he’d improve the squad??
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 7, 2024 19:29:54 GMT
What we need the most is a fit Gallagher or a similar kind of player brought in! Apart from that I think we should loan Tezgel out and offload Ennis.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 7, 2024 19:30:48 GMT
Just noticed Ryan Kent, LW from Rangers then Fenerbache is a free agent, only 27. Wonder if he’d improve the squad?? Course he would
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Post by a on Nov 7, 2024 19:32:45 GMT
Scouring ukraine for a cheap superstar apparently.... Nazarenko is a Left Winger and Oleksiy Gutsulyak Right Winger both at Polissya posting v good numbers. No clue if they’re any good or even if Stoke are looking in Ukraine but if we were then they’re who Stoke should thoroughly scout.
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Post by a on Nov 7, 2024 19:33:03 GMT
Just noticed Ryan Kent, LW from Rangers then Fenerbache is a free agent, only 27. Wonder if he’d improve the squad?? Course he would Well he’s after a club…
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Post by thornestein on Nov 7, 2024 19:34:10 GMT
Just noticed Ryan Kent, LW from Rangers then Fenerbache is a free agent, only 27. Wonder if he’d improve the squad?? Course he would isn’t he supposed to be a bit of a trouble maker or am i getting him mixed up with someone else ??
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Post by a on Nov 7, 2024 19:35:38 GMT
isn’t he supposed to be a bit of a trouble maker or am i getting him mixed up with someone else ?? Just reading that from a Rangers fan. Maybe steer well clear, apparently has interest in Saudi so meh
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Post by headsgoup on Nov 9, 2024 9:03:00 GMT
I'd be getting a left winger to cover that side in a 433 or 4231. We need another Manhoef.
I'd also be getting a midfielder who is as close to Seko as possible. Mobile but disciplined. Depends on whether Bosun can fill that role though.
For me, Pearson is done, given our style of play, so we might as well try to sell him.
Then a right back if Junior doesn't keep up his recent form, or a centre back if he does. This one is only a maybe, I think we're ok at the back, just hideously exposed from the midfield.
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Post by a on Nov 9, 2024 9:54:06 GMT
I'd be getting a left winger to cover that side in a 433 or 4231. We need another Manhoef. I'd also be getting a midfielder who is as close to Seko as possible. Mobile but disciplined. Depends on whether Bosun can fill that role though. For me, Pearson is done, given our style of play, so we might as well try to sell him. Then a right back if Junior doesn't keep up his recent form, or a centre back if he does. This one is only a maybe, I think we're ok at the back, just hideously exposed from the midfield. I’m starting to wonder if Pearson is a Mandela effect and actually isn’t employed by the club, and never was 😂
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Post by robstokie on Nov 9, 2024 10:01:05 GMT
Think we need another centre half who can both read the game and is reasonably quick, if we want to play a more pressing game with a high line then we can't afford to have any carthorses who would get caught with their pants down on the counter. Would honestly get shot of Wilmot, massively over hyped, and loan out Anderson and Dixon.
I also think we need another right back - for me I would persist with Tchamadeu as there clearly is a player that would blossom with an extended run in the side, but if he bombs or gets injured there's no decent cover (Wilmot is poor, and Gooch isn't a right back/wing back whatever anyone says). Left back will need to be addressed at some point in the nearish future too - Stevens has been ace when fit, but injury prone and well into his 30s too, so always a risk he could suddenly fall away - do we hold off until summer? Guess it depends on how players coming back in in other positions gel in.
Midfield is an interesting one - a lot depends on if/when Bosun is ready and if he can do a job screening our centre-halves. Thompson can do a job there, but if we really want to push on, then he's not the answer, at least as a regular. The balance is too light too, Moran is tenacious but maybe would be better utilized higher up the pitch and Burger has been a shadow of the player he was last season. Sidibe is definitely good enough to at least be coming off bench/starting the odd game with an eye to becoming a regular next season. Think Pearson's race is run here, he could do a job for a side who will sit in and break the game up, but will be left exposed if we try to play a more expansive style of football.
As mentioned I would play Moran higher up, think he could do a job as a 10, as could Koumas - Think Bae is another one who is massively over hyped by some - too lightweight, not an awful lot of end product and has a tendency to give the ball away with silly passes that can leave us exposed. Vidigal isn't up to it either. With that in mind, and the fact we are linked with a no. 10 from Wigan, maybe we look towards bringing another wide option in, someone who perhaps can operate as an out and out wide man.
Up Front is a conundrum in itself - a lot depends on whether Cannon stays on here, whether on loan or on a permanent (seems unlikely on a perm though). If he goes we will need someone who can score goals as the rest of our forward options ain't exactly prolific. Gallagher has looked effective in the 1 full game he played, but we cannot rely on him with his injury record, and he's more a provider than a goalscorer himself, so would be thinking bringing in a similar type who could be a target man or a good foil to whoever is around him. Think Tezgel has shown enough to get more minutes, so he should be good as cover or as an alternative if we want to get another striker on. Lowe is having a great spell at Walsall, but did look woefully off the standard required last season - I'd keep him down there for the season and then see if he's able to adapt to championship football next season. Koumas has looked good up top on the odd occasion he's played there, but could get bullied out of games at this level, particularly as the one in a 4231, so would have to change shape to accommodate it, which could leave us even lighter in the middle of the park. Also think we would struggle to break down teams at home without physicality up top. I actually like Ennis in a perverse way, he puts himself about, he's almost a bargain basement Jacob Brown, but, let's be honest, he's dreadful ain't he? If Schuey gets a league 1 job - he's been linked with a few (though I think he could get another championship gig quite easily) then maybe him and Ennis could reunite once more.
On the subject of Jacob Brown, he's scored a couple for Luton recently, but can't see him being a regular for Luton for as long as Adebayo and Morris are there or stay fit. Cheeky loan anybody?
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2024 10:43:09 GMT
Think we need another centre half who can both read the game and is reasonably quick, if we want to play a more pressing game with a high line then we can't afford to have any carthorses who would get caught with their pants down on the counter. Would honestly get shot of Wilmot, massively over hyped, and loan out Anderson and Dixon. I also think we need another right back - for me I would persist with Tchamadeu as there clearly is a player that would blossom with an extended run in the side, but if he bombs or gets injured there's no decent cover (Wilmot is poor, and Gooch isn't a right back/wing back whatever anyone says). Left back will need to be addressed at some point in the nearish future too - Stevens has been ace when fit, but injury prone and well into his 30s too, so always a risk he could suddenly fall away - do we hold off until summer? Guess it depends on how players coming back in in other positions gel in. Midfield is an interesting one - a lot depends on if/when Bosun is ready and if he can do a job screening our centre-halves. Thompson can do a job there, but if we really want to push on, then he's not the answer, at least as a regular. The balance is too light too, Moran is tenacious but maybe would be better utilized higher up the pitch and Burger has been a shadow of the player he was last season. Sidibe is definitely good enough to at least be coming off bench/starting the odd game with an eye to becoming a regular next season. Think Pearson's race is run here, he could do a job for a side who will sit in and break the game up, but will be left exposed if we try to play a more expansive style of football. As mentioned I would play Moran higher up, think he could do a job as a 10, as could Koumas - Think Bae is another one who is massively over hyped by some - too lightweight, not an awful lot of end product and has a tendency to give the ball away with silly passes that can leave us exposed. Vidigal isn't up to it either. With that in mind, and the fact we are linked with a no. 10 from Wigan, maybe we look towards bringing another wide option in, someone who perhaps can operate as an out and out wide man. Up Front is a conundrum in itself - a lot depends on whether Cannon stays on here, whether on loan or on a permanent (seems unlikely on a perm though). If he goes we will need someone who can score goals as the rest of our forward options ain't exactly prolific. Gallagher has looked effective in the 1 full game he played, but we cannot rely on him with his injury record, and he's more a provider than a goalscorer himself, so would be thinking bringing in a similar type who could be a target man or a good foil to whoever is around him. Think Tezgel has shown enough to get more minutes, so he should be good as cover or as an alternative if we want to get another striker on. Lowe is having a great spell at Walsall, but did look woefully off the standard required last season - I'd keep him down there for the season and then see if he's able to adapt to championship football next season. Koumas has looked good up top on the odd occasion he's played there, but could get bullied out of games at this level, particularly as the one in a 4231, so would have to change shape to accommodate it, which could leave us even lighter in the middle of the park. Also think we would struggle to break down teams at home without physicality up top. I actually like Ennis in a perverse way, he puts himself about, he's almost a bargain basement Jacob Brown, but, let's be honest, he's dreadful ain't he? If Schuey gets a league 1 job - he's been linked with a few (though I think he could get another championship gig quite easily) then maybe him and Ennis could reunite once more. On the subject of Jacob Brown, he's scored a couple for Luton recently, but can't see him being a regular for Luton for as long as Adebayo and Morris are there or stay fit. Cheeky loan anybody? A CB who can read the game and is reasonable quick That's Phillips Good quick CBs are very rare in the Championship At best they are either good but slow or quick but dopey Otherwise they are in the pl already However maybe we can find one abroad who sees Stoke as a stepping stone to the pl Tbh I think we've actually got too many players Look for Ennis to go We don't need any more midfielders given Lawal to come in and with Sol being ignored Would expect the noise to be around Cannon
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Post by biglad180 on Nov 9, 2024 14:55:56 GMT
we should be looking at the Koeren and japanese market these lads seem to have a great hunger to play and do well
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Post by collo68 on Nov 9, 2024 15:11:12 GMT
Think we need another centre half who can both read the game and is reasonably quick, if we want to play a more pressing game with a high line then we can't afford to have any carthorses who would get caught with their pants down on the counter. Would honestly get shot of Wilmot, massively over hyped, and loan out Anderson and Dixon. I also think we need another right back - for me I would persist with Tchamadeu as there clearly is a player that would blossom with an extended run in the side, but if he bombs or gets injured there's no decent cover (Wilmot is poor, and Gooch isn't a right back/wing back whatever anyone says). Left back will need to be addressed at some point in the nearish future too - Stevens has been ace when fit, but injury prone and well into his 30s too, so always a risk he could suddenly fall away - do we hold off until summer? Guess it depends on how players coming back in in other positions gel in. Midfield is an interesting one - a lot depends on if/when Bosun is ready and if he can do a job screening our centre-halves. Thompson can do a job there, but if we really want to push on, then he's not the answer, at least as a regular. The balance is too light too, Moran is tenacious but maybe would be better utilized higher up the pitch and Burger has been a shadow of the player he was last season. Sidibe is definitely good enough to at least be coming off bench/starting the odd game with an eye to becoming a regular next season. Think Pearson's race is run here, he could do a job for a side who will sit in and break the game up, but will be left exposed if we try to play a more expansive style of football. As mentioned I would play Moran higher up, think he could do a job as a 10, as could Koumas - Think Bae is another one who is massively over hyped by some - too lightweight, not an awful lot of end product and has a tendency to give the ball away with silly passes that can leave us exposed. Vidigal isn't up to it either. With that in mind, and the fact we are linked with a no. 10 from Wigan, maybe we look towards bringing another wide option in, someone who perhaps can operate as an out and out wide man. Up Front is a conundrum in itself - a lot depends on whether Cannon stays on here, whether on loan or on a permanent (seems unlikely on a perm though). If he goes we will need someone who can score goals as the rest of our forward options ain't exactly prolific. Gallagher has looked effective in the 1 full game he played, but we cannot rely on him with his injury record, and he's more a provider than a goalscorer himself, so would be thinking bringing in a similar type who could be a target man or a good foil to whoever is around him. Think Tezgel has shown enough to get more minutes, so he should be good as cover or as an alternative if we want to get another striker on. Lowe is having a great spell at Walsall, but did look woefully off the standard required last season - I'd keep him down there for the season and then see if he's able to adapt to championship football next season. Koumas has looked good up top on the odd occasion he's played there, but could get bullied out of games at this level, particularly as the one in a 4231, so would have to change shape to accommodate it, which could leave us even lighter in the middle of the park. Also think we would struggle to break down teams at home without physicality up top. I actually like Ennis in a perverse way, he puts himself about, he's almost a bargain basement Jacob Brown, but, let's be honest, he's dreadful ain't he? If Schuey gets a league 1 job - he's been linked with a few (though I think he could get another championship gig quite easily) then maybe him and Ennis could reunite once more. On the subject of Jacob Brown, he's scored a couple for Luton recently, but can't see him being a regular for Luton for as long as Adebayo and Morris are there or stay fit. Cheeky loan anybody? A CB who can read the game and is reasonable quick That's Phillips Good quick CBs are very rare in the Championship At best they are either good but slow or quick but dopey Otherwise they are in the pl already However maybe we can find one abroad who sees Stoke as a stepping stone to the pl Tbh I think we've actually got too many players Look for Ennis to go We don't need any more midfielders given Lawal to come in and with Sol being ignored Would expect the noise to be around Cannon We won’t be signing any centre backs with 4 of them here. Loans for Tezgel, sell Ennis and get a forward in and or Mmaee back. Maybe a winger and right back and Bosun, Gallagher and Pearson back and we have a good squad with lots of competition for places
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 9, 2024 16:58:22 GMT
I'd love a cheeky bid for Adebayo in January!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2024 21:18:30 GMT
A striker and a centre half still please.
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Post by Ron on Nov 10, 2024 15:36:23 GMT
Some players to be had in bundesliga 2. I’d be looking at Kenan Karaman and Tobias mhor at cash strapped schalke.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 10, 2024 15:38:39 GMT
A striker and a centre half still please. Agree Bayern. Those are the two areas I'd be looking to strengthen.
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Post by lordb on Nov 10, 2024 15:41:36 GMT
Some players to be had in bundesliga 2. I’d be looking at Kenan Karaman and Tobias mhor at cash strapped schalke. Interesting Affordable?
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Post by Ron on Nov 10, 2024 19:18:13 GMT
Some players to be had in bundesliga 2. I’d be looking at Kenan Karaman and Tobias mhor at cash strapped schalke. Interesting Affordable? would say so. Imagine they’d want a decent fee for karaman tho
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