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Post by chamberlain on Nov 18, 2024 18:14:01 GMT
I wouldn't think there are many coaches who would go to a club where they had no input into recruitment. No but given Pelach lack of credentials suspicion would be he was someone who would take the job despite that Looking at Watford theres no chance their managers get a say on recruitment there Exactly just suspicion not fact |
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Post by lordb on Nov 18, 2024 18:38:08 GMT
No but given Pelach lack of credentials suspicion would be he was someone who would take the job despite that Looking at Watford theres no chance their managers get a say on recruitment there Exactly just suspicion not fact Unknown |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 18, 2024 18:50:44 GMT
Probably because he wasn’t our manager/HC. Our manager/HC’s have always had a big input. No problem with it being a nuanced approach JD bought in players with an eye on the future AN bought in crap journeymen he’d worked with previously who hold no future value and long-standing liability. I hope we never go back to a one dimensional approach. Schumacher took over December 2023, before the January window His influence on any window was extremely limited especially in terms of outlay as was his predecessor. They were allowed their indulgences but the main outlay has been less of their choosing for some time. Even under MON I don’t think our biggest investments were his picks. Interestingly we haven’t lost major revenue on a player since we moved from a one man band to a collaborative approach. It’s not delivered success but it’s stemmed the bleeding. |
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Post by chamberlain on Nov 18, 2024 18:55:18 GMT
Exactly just suspicion not fact Unknown Made up then |
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Post by etebojan on Nov 18, 2024 22:44:21 GMT
I don't think Schumacher had any say last summer (whereas January window he did) This is false. Head Coach/Manager always gets final say. Been spoken about multiple times Head Coach wouldn't have final say, traditional Manager more than likely would |
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Post by northernstokie on Nov 19, 2024 6:33:51 GMT
That dont really say much though as players are asking to join could be anyone. Don't mean they are better than what we have Are you a cockney? Getting Dick Van Dyke vibes No mate I'm not. |
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 20, 2024 14:38:30 GMT
Are you a cockney? Getting Dick Van Dyke vibes No mate I'm not. Alabama? |
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Post by etebojan on Nov 21, 2024 10:25:25 GMT
So of our current loans, who do you think we might try to sign permanently either in Jan or summer?
I hope we try and make Cannon a permanent signing in January or at the very least do whatever it takes to keep him here till summer,
Think we might try and get Moran (though he did sign a contact extension to 2028 at Brighton)
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 21, 2024 11:38:42 GMT
So of our current loans, who do you think we might try to sign permanently either in Jan or summer? I hope we try and make Cannon a permanent signing in January or at the very least do whatever it takes to keep him here till summer, Think we might try and get Moran (though he did sign a contact extension to 2028 at Brighton) Think we'll do well just to hang on to them both for the rest of the season. |
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Post by bolders on Nov 21, 2024 11:57:36 GMT
So of our current loans, who do you think we might try to sign permanently either in Jan or summer? I hope we try and make Cannon a permanent signing in January or at the very least do whatever it takes to keep him here till summer, Think we might try and get Moran (though he did sign a contact extension to 2028 at Brighton) Leicester want £12m for Cannon so i think we will find that hard to do. I think we have no chance with the others. Just hope non are recalled |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 21, 2024 12:07:43 GMT
Can't really see any loanees as realistic signings. The idea of paying that kind of fee for Cannon seems ridiculous (not that we could even if we wanted) , and Koumas is obviously a complete no-go. Spurs will probably want to see how Phillips goes for another 18 months before getting max value for him if they want to move on Moran is maybe the interesting one, at just turned 21, and needing to call somewhere home. Walters was pretty gushing about him a few times, so he could be one we'd push the boat out for. I think Adam Virgo is a close Brighton watcher, and he thinks he would be expendable the72.co.uk/2024/11/18/stoke-city-andy-moran-urged-to-leave-brighton-adam-virgo/“Andy Moran may have signed a four-year contract at Brighton before he was loaned out to Stoke City this season. But do I see him playing for Seagulls in the Premier League? No. For me, the 21-year-old should now be playing for a Championship move.
“If you look at the sort of players Brighton bring through – Solly March, Jack Hinshelwood, Lewis Dunk, Aaron Connolly – they tend to progress pretty rapidly into the first-team and sustain that sort of involvement. In four seasons with the first team, Andy’s only had 24 minutes of Premier League football when he came on against Everton in 2023.
“So no disrespect, but you know that his time’s going to be limited in terms of opportunities and chances. That’s not to say he isn’t good enough. He’s a very, very tidy footballer who is good at what he does. What he brings to Stoke is certainly needed in that midfield area, even if he should score a few more goals.
“Realistically, though, is he going to get past someone like Carlos Baleba, who is around the same age and cost Brighton £25m? He needs to go and play first-team football, go and find his own identity.”
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 21, 2024 12:22:18 GMT
I agree about Moran, tidy player is a good description of him, I actually think Cundle would be more effective for us, I would like him on a permanent..not sure he would be on our radar, was a discipline of Schuey I think
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 21, 2024 12:23:00 GMT
Everyone keeps saying we can't afford xy or z however we can because of recent action ffp is dead in the water also because we are no longer owned NY bet365 any sponsorship is just that and the league can't see it as just owners putting ones in
Bearing all this in mind the restraints we have had are now substantially weakened
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Post by noustie on Nov 21, 2024 12:37:51 GMT
Everyone keeps saying we can't afford xy or z however we can because of recent action ffp is dead in the water also because we are no longer owned NY bet365 any sponsorship is just that and the league can't see it as just owners putting ones in Bearing all this in mind the restraints we have had are now substantially weakened So are you predicting Peter helicoptering the dong about and slapping it about all over the place like he's overdosed on Numan supplements? DONG.DONG.DONG. |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 22, 2024 0:49:58 GMT
Everyone keeps saying we can't afford xy or z however we can because of recent action ffp is dead in the water also because we are no longer owned NY bet365 any sponsorship is just that and the league can't see it as just owners putting ones in Bearing all this in mind the restraints we have had are now substantially weakened So are you predicting Peter helicoptering the dong about and slapping it about all over the place like he's overdosed on Numan supplements? DONG.DONG.DONG. I think Peter wants to see us back in prem So anything can happen Just think some posters saying we can't afford are incorrect |
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Post by wazbagsbro on Nov 22, 2024 3:44:39 GMT
Everyone keeps saying we can't afford xy or z however we can because of recent action ffp is dead in the water also because we are no longer owned NY bet365 any sponsorship is just that and the league can't see it as just owners putting ones in Bearing all this in mind the restraints we have had are now substantially weakened Who are we owned by , have I missed something? |
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Post by thornestein on Nov 22, 2024 5:09:14 GMT
Everyone keeps saying we can't afford xy or z however we can because of recent action ffp is dead in the water also because we are no longer owned NY bet365 any sponsorship is just that and the league can't see it as just owners putting ones in Bearing all this in mind the restraints we have had are now substantially weakened Who are we owned by , have I missed something? John Coates is the now the owner of the club |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 22, 2024 6:27:21 GMT
Everyone keeps saying we can't afford xy or z however we can because of recent action ffp is dead in the water also because we are no longer owned NY bet365 any sponsorship is just that and the league can't see it as just owners putting ones in Bearing all this in mind the restraints we have had are now substantially weakened Who are we owned by , have I missed something? We're now owned by john coats not bet 365 |
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Post by a on Nov 22, 2024 11:17:03 GMT
So of our current loans, who do you think we might try to sign permanently either in Jan or summer? I hope we try and make Cannon a permanent signing in January or at the very least do whatever it takes to keep him here till summer, Think we might try and get Moran (though he did sign a contact extension to 2028 at Brighton) I think if Cannon carries on then we’ll be priced out of a permanent move. Maybe another loan like we did with Hoever? |
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Nov 22, 2024 14:12:41 GMT
Who are we owned by , have I missed something? John Coates is the now the owner of the club John hasn't yet done the "dong" photo & until that day comes then their can only be one....  Long live THAT image |
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Post by etebojan on Nov 22, 2024 17:21:42 GMT
John Coates is the now the owner of the club John hasn't yet done the "dong" photo & until that day comes then their can only be one.... Long live THAT image   It's not quite the same is it |
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Post by bertiestan on Nov 22, 2024 17:56:22 GMT
John hasn't yet done the "dong" photo & until that day comes then their can only be one.... Long live THAT image It's not quite the same is it Bloody hell he’s lost weight🔴⚪️ |
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Post by etebojan on Nov 22, 2024 18:00:54 GMT
It's not quite the same is it Bloody hell he’s lost weight🔴⚪️ I assume and hope it's just because he's naturally very lean and also a very keen cyclist, so he just keeps very trim these days |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2024 18:22:08 GMT
Cannon has shown nothing that he’s worth anything over 2/3 million. We shouldn’t be entertaining buying him.
I don’t think Schumacher was involved in the transfers this summer tbh. They seemingly knew they wanted to sack him before the summer so why would they have asked him?
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 22, 2024 18:31:20 GMT
Cannon has shown nothing that he’s worth anything over 2/3 million. We shouldn’t be entertaining buying him. I don’t think Schumacher was involved in the transfers this summer tbh. They seemingly knew they wanted to sack him before the summer so why would they have asked him? last sentence I agree I think he’s worth a bit more than 2-3 mil It’s still early days with cannon I think at least we have a centre forward who offers something and getting Gallagher fit and staying fit. Then who knows cannon could get 20 this season |
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Post by etebojan on Nov 22, 2024 18:34:52 GMT
Cannon has shown nothing that he’s worth anything over 2/3 million. We shouldn’t be entertaining buying him. I don’t think Schumacher was involved in the transfers this summer tbh. They seemingly knew they wanted to sack him before the summer so why would they have asked him? If for whatever reason we lose Cannon in January, do you think we could replace him (his current goal rate) for 2/3 million?, who would you bring in? I would be happy for us to spend 6-8 million on Cannon I don't think we could really lose out at that price on a decent contract, He's shown great form at PNE over 20 games bagging 8 and pretty good form for us over 11 league games bagging 6 goals and 1 assist. |
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Post by bertiestan on Nov 22, 2024 18:36:42 GMT
Cannon has shown nothing that he’s worth anything over 2/3 million. We shouldn’t be entertaining buying him. I don’t think Schumacher was involved in the transfers this summer tbh. They seemingly knew they wanted to sack him before the summer so why would they have asked him? If for whatever reason we lose Cannon in January, do you think we could replace him (his current goal rate) for 2/3 million?, who would you bring in? I would be happy for us to spend 6-8 million on Cannon I don't think we could really lose out at that price on a decent contract, He's shown great form at PNE over 20 games bagging 8 and pretty good form for us over 11 league games bagging 6 goals and 1 assist. There’s no way we could replace him for 2-3 mil imo🔴⚪️ |
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Post by lordb on Nov 22, 2024 18:41:19 GMT
£2-3m wouldn't buy you Nathan Brown,and I liked Brown,never mind Cannon
Meanwhile Delap,Archer went for £15m rising to £20m
Cheaper abroad?
Maybe but don't see any examples of that lately
Sure it's probably not impossible but to expect it or to think it likely is ludicrous
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 22, 2024 18:45:56 GMT
£2-3m wouldn't buy you Nathan Brown,and I liked Brown,never mind Cannon Meanwhile Delap,Archer went for £15m rising to £20m Cheaper abroad? Maybe but don't see any examples of that lately Sure it's probably not impossible but to expect it or to think it likely is ludicrous Don’t remember Nathan brown 😃 Cannon is clearly worth 6-8mil Take him out of our team now and we would struggle |
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Post by etebojan on Nov 22, 2024 18:47:11 GMT
If for whatever reason we lose Cannon in January, do you think we could replace him (his current goal rate) for 2/3 million?, who would you bring in? I would be happy for us to spend 6-8 million on Cannon I don't think we could really lose out at that price on a decent contract, He's shown great form at PNE over 20 games bagging 8 and pretty good form for us over 11 league games bagging 6 goals and 1 assist. There’s no way we could replace him for 2-3 mil imo🔴⚪️ I think with Cannon from his form at PNE and current trajectory this season, you're looking at at lest 15/16 goals in a season, if you compare that with similar 15/16 goal forwards from last years Championship that is the likes of Josh Sargent(24) valued at 10-15 Million, Emmanuel Latte Lath (25) valued at in excess of 20million by Borough apparently . Jack Clarke (23) 15+ million. In fact I'd be ok us spending 10 million over a 5 year contract on him, i think he is a terrific prospect, and still very young, we would not lose money on him |
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