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Post by J-Roar on Oct 31, 2024 15:18:08 GMT
I have just listened with embarrassment while White & Jordan on Talksport humiliate our once respected fanbase about the despicable chanting on Saturday. I put the below thread out on Sunday on the Tyrese Soutter thread with minimal response. The club higher management should have come out straight away initiating an investigation. What do we do we put Uncle Peter out and god bless him for his age he did really well. This should be led with by John and Simon King !! Those people who know their names forward them to the club for immediate action - These rats must be ousted from the fanbase Just Do it Stokies Unfortunately we have a new generation of people who follow Stoke and my advice to John Coates / Simon King is to come out on Monday make a statement that they are investigating the Tyrese chanting with the SCFC fanbase Sheffield Utd CCTV / Security / Police to hunt this scum out of the rat holes they hide in. Proper supporters will know their names please forward this information to SCFC for their next steps. SCFC must then name and shame them in the local press , support this and name them on Radio Stoke and ban them for life, this has to stop this week. Make them suffer with loss of employment and income. Step one the supporters who stood alongside these idiots you know their names you probably have mobile images share them with the club. John Simon you would gain so much credibility locally and nationally by routing them out this week. A word we have heard alot recently at our club and that this is non negotiable , Just Do It John !!! Just Do It Supporters Route Them Out !!! When was our fanbase respected? |
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Post by raythesailor on Oct 31, 2024 15:34:17 GMT
What was being chanted ? I was unaware of whatever happened. Basically something distasteful about Tyrese losing his father. If true it is disgusting but it must have been a few individuals as many like me seem to be unaware of it. Coincides with the almost majority of opinions in the "Dickhead Supporters" thread. |
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Post by richardparker on Oct 31, 2024 15:48:10 GMT
I was stood in the middle of Stokies on Saturday (behind the goal).
One or two muppets started jeering Tyrese (about 10 minutes in), giving him the tried and tested pantomime villain booing, ... that ultimately leads to any ex-Stoke player turning in their match of the season!
It sadly caught on a little, as there are plenty of sad-sack sheep amongst our fanbase.
AT NO POINT DID I ACTUALLY HEAR ANYONE GIVING OUT ANY TRAGEDY CHANTS.
Apparently, a Stoke supporter who is a bonafide fan and regular at away days tweeted during the match that some fans had been doing so and that she was critical of them for it.
After that, it appears to have 'grown its own legs', quickly escalating now to something that to my mind has been completely exaggerated and over-hyped. Everyone is talking about it and we are all tarnished with the 'scum' tag as a consequence.
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Post by ian57 on Oct 31, 2024 15:48:50 GMT
Whilst I agree in general with what you say I dont agree with the measures that you want to adopt to punish them. They should not be banned for life. They should not be hounded out of employment and income. If you want to discipline them then a season long ban would be plenty for them to learn their lesson. they should be made to watch every single game,home and away for the rest of the season. That’s punishment enough surely. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Oct 31, 2024 16:05:14 GMT
Was driving down the M6 this morning and it made me feel sick when I heard it. Have I sung and done stuff I'm not proud of? Yes. No excuses.
But have I sung about the dead? Have I sung about an ex-player losing a parent? No, as I'm not subhuman.
Fact is, that anyone who met Kevin Campbell will affirm what a beautiful human being he was. I was lucky enough to interview him for an hour, and he's as good a bloke as you'll ever meet. And Tyrese is also a lovely lad, pretty sensitive, and was hugely liked by the players and staff. A
Absolutely sickening that our brilliant support, the 95%+ who don't act like Danny Dyer every away game, have been tarnished with the same brush.
Simply astounded that in 2024, fans can tragedy chant about the death of an ex-player's father.
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Post by jm on Oct 31, 2024 16:10:56 GMT
I was stood in the middle of Stokies on Saturday (behind the goal). One or two muppets started jeering Tyrese (about 10 minutes in), giving him the tried and tested pantomime villain booing, ... that ultimately leads to any ex-Stoke player turning in their match of the season! It sadly caught on a little, as there are plenty of sad-sack sheep amongst our fanbase. AT NO POINT DID I ACTUALLY HEAR ANYONE GIVING OUT ANY TRAGEDY CHANTS. Apparently, a Stoke supporter who is a bonafide fan and regular at away days tweeted during the match that some fans had been doing so and that she was critical of them for it. After that, it appears to have 'grown its own legs', quickly escalating now to something that to my mind has been completely exaggerated and over-hyped. Everyone is talking about it and we are all tarnished with the 'scum' tag as a consequence. Unfortunately there are plenty of doom mongers (some on the oatcake) who are determined to see the club fail to suit their personal agendas so even if nothing happened, or its still just a rumour, or as seems likely a couple of knob heads off their heads sang something despicable it gets a lot more gravitas than it deserves and we all get tarnished reputations. Cheers |
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Post by frasier37 on Oct 31, 2024 16:20:44 GMT
I was stood in the middle of Stokies on Saturday (behind the goal). One or two muppets started jeering Tyrese (about 10 minutes in), giving him the tried and tested pantomime villain booing, ... that ultimately leads to any ex-Stoke player turning in their match of the season! It sadly caught on a little, as there are plenty of sad-sack sheep amongst our fanbase. AT NO POINT DID I ACTUALLY HEAR ANYONE GIVING OUT ANY TRAGEDY CHANTS. Apparently, a Stoke supporter who is a bonafide fan and regular at away days tweeted during the match that some fans had been doing so and that she was critical of them for it. After that, it appears to have 'grown its own legs', quickly escalating now to something that to my mind has been completely exaggerated and over-hyped. Everyone is talking about it and we are all tarnished with the 'scum' tag as a consequence. Unfortunately there are plenty of doom mongers (some on the oatcake) who are determined to see the club fail to suit their personal agendas so even if nothing happened, or its still just a rumour, or as seems likely a couple of knob heads off their heads sang something despicable it gets a lot more gravitas than it deserves and we all get tarnished reputations. Cheers I think the "doom mongerers" are just saying the club, and anyone who witnessed it need to act to find these brain dead nobs rather than allowing it to continue |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 31, 2024 16:34:41 GMT
If the ones guilty are found,they need to make a public apology to Tyrese Campbell,plus to the club also for dragging its name through the mud.
Then & only then should the club make the decision on whether to ban them for life or just a few years.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 31, 2024 16:50:44 GMT
I was there and didn’t here it so was quite surprised when I saw the post , clearly we all agree if anyone says it , it was disgusting .
Is the Op correct in saying we fielded Peter on Talksport , that’s ridiculous if so , it’s Simon K ‘s area and he should deal with it
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Post by Bagwash on Oct 31, 2024 17:10:16 GMT
I was there on Saturday near the front, my son and his friend's were at the back and neither of us heard the alleged chant. Same here. I also thought,as I posted on the 'dickhead fans' thread was that the abuse he did get was way over the top.Imho he was lazy and not very good and so did not deserve it. Perhaps if his parting words would have been "I'm leaving because you appoint crap managers and will continue to do so" then we might have been cheering him. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 31, 2024 17:10:31 GMT
I was there and didn’t hear that but I’m sure on here said they heard it.
There were still too many giving Campbell abuse young and old.
Bit sad really
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 31, 2024 17:22:05 GMT
I was there and didn’t hear that but I’m sure on here said they heard it. There were still too many giving Campbell abuse young and old. Bit sad really There were a couple of tweets about it on the other thread but they and most things referring to it seem to have been deleted. |
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Post by anchorman on Oct 31, 2024 17:31:36 GMT
I was there and didn’t hear that but I’m sure on here said they heard it. There were still too many giving Campbell abuse young and old. Bit sad really I agree. It didn't workout for Tye or Stoke as we all hoped it would but he left on good terms. The abuse that he received was disgusting & uncalled for. A bloke (fifties maybe) next to me was giving Tyrese abuse and I argued that he doesn't deserve that not that it made the slightest bit of difference...... as you say, it's sad. |
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Post by bertiestan on Oct 31, 2024 17:32:36 GMT
He gives a shit if it was a handful? One is one too many🔴⚪️
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Post by anchorman on Oct 31, 2024 17:35:18 GMT
Similarly, the abuse that the players got from some so called fans at Boro was disgusting. Poor performance yes no argument. It was the manager's 2nd game for god's sake and these moron's were booing & abusing 16-17 year old players. Disgusting.
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 31, 2024 17:49:18 GMT
I was there and didn’t hear that but I’m sure on here said they heard it. There were still too many giving Campbell abuse young and old. Bit sad really I agree. It didn't workout for Tye or Stoke as we all hoped it would but he left on good terms. The abuse that he received was disgusting & uncalled for. A bloke (fifties maybe) next to me was giving Tyrese abuse and I argued that he doesn't deserve that not that it made the slightest bit of difference...... as you say, it's sad. I must be honest mate I really didn’t expect him to get any abuse at all. I was shocked the amount of people were at it. I just think some will give people abuse for no reason. The state of a lot of them in the concourse I guess it’s Not surprising. Folk arnt bothered mate if you pull them up about it. Unfortunately this is the society we live in. |
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Post by SCFC92 on Oct 31, 2024 17:49:53 GMT
You have to showcase strongly that this is unacceptable. Lifetime ban, simple as that. I don't think they need naming, just swift action and announce that they have been permanently banned from ever going to a football match again.
Your actions must have consequences. The sooner these disgusting thugs are made an example of the sooner this shit will be removed from the game.
Think someone else has mentioned it, showcases how much I am beginning to fall away from Stoke on any other day than a match day. I had no idea.
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 31, 2024 17:50:40 GMT
I was there and didn’t hear that but I’m sure on here said they heard it. There were still too many giving Campbell abuse young and old. Bit sad really There were a couple of tweets about it on the other thread but they and most things referring to it seem to have been deleted. Let’s hope it’s made up bollocks and our supporters didn’t stoop as low as as snakes belly |
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Post by LphPotter on Oct 31, 2024 18:14:14 GMT
I agree. It didn't workout for Tye or Stoke as we all hoped it would but he left on good terms. The abuse that he received was disgusting & uncalled for. A bloke (fifties maybe) next to me was giving Tyrese abuse and I argued that he doesn't deserve that not that it made the slightest bit of difference...... as you say, it's sad. I must be honest mate I really didn’t expect him to get any abuse at all. I was shocked the amount of people were at it. I just think some will give people abuse for no reason. The state of a lot of them in the concourse I guess it’s Not surprising. Folk arnt bothered mate if you pull them up about it. Unfortunately this is the society we live in. The abuse was pathetic but were you actually surprised? He got abused and called lazy most games when he actually did play for us by the same type of people so it was obviously going to happen. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 31, 2024 18:31:13 GMT
I was there
Didn't hear the chant but have no doubt it occurred
As for punishment,first of all you to identify who sing it
I've seen the posts above tbh I'd have no problem with a lifetime ban whatsoever
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Post by thegooddoctor on Oct 31, 2024 18:58:33 GMT
I remember being part of a sizeable away at Bradford in 1990.
Midway through the game several lads started a deeply unsavoury chant about the then-recent disaster that killed 56 people.
The nearby Stokies responded thus: there was some loud shushing, a fair few Paddington Bear stares and one or two no-nonsense shut-the-fuck-ups.
Result? They quickly shut the fuck up.
No police involvement. No lifetime bans. No performative outrage.
Who says the past was so bad, eh?
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 31, 2024 19:01:40 GMT
I must be honest mate I really didn’t expect him to get any abuse at all. I was shocked the amount of people were at it. I just think some will give people abuse for no reason. The state of a lot of them in the concourse I guess it’s Not surprising. Folk arnt bothered mate if you pull them up about it. Unfortunately this is the society we live in. The abuse was pathetic but were you actually surprised? He got abused and called lazy most games when he actually did play for us by the same type of people so it was obviously going to happen. I was surprised by how many I guess. Didn’t realise how many idiots we had in our fanbase. They all seem to have been there last week |
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Post by skip on Oct 31, 2024 19:19:31 GMT
I hope this won't be read as a defence of something I think is really disgusting but maybe this response is a bit too zealous? We need an investigation with a fair punishment (stadium ban is fair but jail time is surely crazy? ), not a witch hunt. SCFC already said they were investigating but I think we can all agree that doesn't go far enough. The club should arrange for the perpetrators to be hunted down and killed. Won't happen of course in case it offends the woke. This country is fucked. Being serious for once, how the hell would it offend 'the woke'? "Woke" is used incorrectly so often it's tedious. I'm as woke as fuck but if they find out who was singing this towards Tyrese, I hope they get a life ban. Little shit bags deserve nothing less. |
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Post by skip on Oct 31, 2024 19:21:30 GMT
I remember being part of a sizeable away at Bradford in 1990. Midway through the game several lads started a deeply unsavoury chant about the then-recent disaster that killed 56 people. The nearby Stokies responded thus: there was some loud shushing, a fair few Paddington Bear stares and one or two no-nonsense shut-the-fuck-ups. Result? They quickly shut the fuck up. No police involvement. No lifetime bans. No performative outrage. Who says the past was so bad, eh? This crosses over into the discussion about the woman assaulted on the train. Either good supporters stand up to the minitory or we don't. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Oct 31, 2024 19:29:47 GMT
SCFC already said they were investigating but I think we can all agree that doesn't go far enough. The club should arrange for the perpetrators to be hunted down and killed. Won't happen of course in case it offends the woke. This country is fucked. Being serious for once, how the hell would it offend 'the woke'? "Woke" is used incorrectly so often it's tedious. I'm as woke as fuck but if they find out who was singing this towards Tyrese, I hope they get a life ban. Little shit bags deserve nothing less. I'd imagine with clams suggesting that the perpetrators should be hunted down and killed that his post was a joke? |
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Post by milton58 on Oct 31, 2024 19:44:07 GMT
This singing chanting would be all over social media in this day and age....no one seen anything so it must be bollocks
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Post by stokeson on Oct 31, 2024 19:59:59 GMT
After the game I got home and watched a pod cast a young Stoke fan puts out. I cant find it now but im sure he mentioned it and apologised to the Campbell family. Anyone else see it.?
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 31, 2024 20:09:50 GMT
From what I can see only one person reported hearing it, the said Twitter post is on the Souttar and Campbell thread.
The lady who posted it replies to one of the comments on the post saying that “he has been reported now” which would imply it was just one person singing it.
Mountain out of a molehill comes to mind.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 31, 2024 20:16:58 GMT
From what I can see only one person reported hearing it, the said Twitter post is on the Souttar and Campbell thread. The lady who posted it replies to one of the comments on the post saying that “he has been reported now” which would imply it was just one person singing it. Mountain out of a molehill comes to mind. Seems like social media strikes again and drags the people of Stokes name through the mud at the same time |
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 31, 2024 20:20:21 GMT
This singing chanting would be all over social media in this day and age....no one seen anything so it must be bollocks I don't think that is the case. Who would be filming that? Is all the chanting during the game always on social media??? I don't think so. |
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