|
|
Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 28, 2024 13:12:59 GMT
Our cheapest adult season tickets are £344 which puts us 7th cheapest in the league. For families particularly those with young kids we're pretty much the cheapest, an u-11's season ticket is £23 and u-15's £75 so for an adult with a couple of kids you can go for less than £20 a game combined..... So there's 6 clubs still cheaper than us despite us freezing prices since 2008. How many of those 6 clubs have been in the Premier league since then? Also, our cheapest tickets are in the Boothen End and the South Stand, the two least populated stands in the Stadium, so make of that what you will lol. The main stand is the least populated (particularly the bottom tier), and the most expensive. The new safe standing is all but sold out in 2 of the 3 blocks in the South Stand. That has taken away from some of the Boothen End numbers...... |
|
|
|
Post by LGH87 on Oct 28, 2024 13:25:25 GMT
So there's 6 clubs still cheaper than us despite us freezing prices since 2008. How many of those 6 clubs have been in the Premier league since then? Also, our cheapest tickets are in the Boothen End and the South Stand, the two least populated stands in the Stadium, so make of that what you will lol. The main stand is the least populated (particularly the bottom tier), and the most expensive. The new safe standing is all but sold out in 2 of the 3 blocks in the South Stand. That has taken away from some of the Boothen End numbers...... Sat where I sit in block 29 the South Stand looks empty except for the two blocks you mention but they're only half of the two blocks, the bottom rows are virtually empty. |
|
|
|
Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 28, 2024 17:37:45 GMT
Id say Peter will still be having a say in matters. Richard Smith (Denise’s husband) too. Lets not forget that peter Coates’ first tenure with us was shocking and resulted in us dropping to the 3rd tier twice Are you sure? I don’t think Peter has much say at all nowadays. I think we’re forgetting that he’s a very old man. And when he did have a say in recent years he wanted one particular former manager to return to sort out the utter & complete shit show. I would have backed Kim all the way, others may not have. Im speculating mate so you could be right. Id still imagine Rich Smith would have some influence though |
|
|
|
Post by mrnovember on Oct 28, 2024 17:49:03 GMT
What happened when we took the massive Abdoulaye mosaic down?
|
|
|
|
Post by jeycov on Oct 28, 2024 17:56:18 GMT
The season we were relegated from the Premiership
1 filled in the corner
2 changed stadium name to Bet 365
3 had those silly white squares on the back of the shirts ready for European football 🙄
Filling in the corner
Moving away fans
Both good moves
|
|
|
|
Post by Vermelho20312505 on Oct 28, 2024 19:42:32 GMT
Would people be prepared to accept a 25-40% increase in their season tickets if we had new owners? Our season tickets aren't even that cheap now, the last time I checked we were in the top 10 in the championship for most expensive. The frozen ST prices thing is a myth that people use to bum the Coates. Are you saying that ST prices haven't been frozen for all these years? |
|
|
|
Post by potters11 on Oct 28, 2024 19:54:03 GMT
Our season tickets aren't even that cheap now, the last time I checked we were in the top 10 in the championship for most expensive. The frozen ST prices thing is a myth that people use to bum the Coates. Are you saying that ST prices haven't been frozen for all these years? No what he’s saying is the prices have been frozen but we’ve been overtaken by a number of clubs but you can’t mention it because we’re all suppose to believe the prices are incredible value for money and we should lap it up like North Korean citizens. |
|
|
|
Post by danceswithclams on Oct 28, 2024 20:04:22 GMT
apparently John Coates is going nowhere. Both him and the club he owns. |
|
|
|
Post by suck_the_mop. on Oct 28, 2024 20:22:17 GMT
Off the pitch is much better, actually seems like the club is trying to move into the 21st century, if we were not doing these things it would be something else to beat the club down with.
|
|
|
|
Post by chad on Oct 28, 2024 20:27:33 GMT
The problem is that it isn't a family. It's one bloke and a highly driven former player. Id say Peter will still be having a say in matters. Richard Smith (Denise’s husband) too. Lets not forget that peter Coates’ first tenure with us was shocking and resulted in us dropping to the 3rd tier twice Let’s also not forget under his tenure he took us to the Premier League for ten years, an FACup Final, Europe a LC SF and we watched some of the best football since the days of Hudson and Greenhoff |
|
|
|
Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 28, 2024 21:33:54 GMT
Id say Peter will still be having a say in matters. Richard Smith (Denise’s husband) too. Lets not forget that peter Coates’ first tenure with us was shocking and resulted in us dropping to the 3rd tier twice Let’s also not forget under his tenure he took us to the Premier League for ten years, an FACup Final, Europe a LC SF and we watched some of the best football since the days of Hudson and Greenhoff Aye, all true |
|
|
|
Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 29, 2024 17:18:18 GMT
The thing is there are plenty of big clubs in our league who are struggling to get out of it. Is it wank at the minute, of course it is and we all want better but it's not as straight forward as that. Not a job I'd like to have running a football club at all but I just live in hope that things get better despite the signs not looking great at all.
|
|
|
|
Post by LGH87 on Oct 29, 2024 17:22:49 GMT
The thing is there are plenty of big clubs in our league who are struggling to get out of it. Is it wank at the minute, of course it is and we all want better but it's not as straight forward as that. Not a job I'd like to have running a football club at all but I just live in hope that things get better despite the signs not looking great at all. The difference is, in the 7 years we've been down in this league all those other clubs have either gone back up, or finished in the top 6 at least once and had a good crack at it. The best we've managed is 14th. |
|
|
|
Post by jokker on Oct 29, 2024 17:26:44 GMT
I honestly don't think they (Coates et al), realise how damaging it is to the morale of the fans, and by extension, the city, when they underperform to such a degree. Have you ever seen the look on their faces when they leave after another soul destroying defeat? There's nothing they can do inside the 90 minutes. They know exactly how damaging it is to morale. And yet they carry on, |
|
|
|
Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 29, 2024 17:26:48 GMT
The thing is there are plenty of big clubs in our league who are struggling to get out of it. Is it wank at the minute, of course it is and we all want better but it's not as straight forward as that. Not a job I'd like to have running a football club at all but I just live in hope that things get better despite the signs not looking great at all. The difference is, in the 7 years we've been down in this league all those other clubs have either gone back up, or finished in the top 6 at least once and had a good crack at it. The best we've managed is 14th. I agree with that mate but there are clubs who have dropped down to the league below like Derby etc. Hopefully we don't follow suit. |
|
|
|
Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 29, 2024 17:28:18 GMT
I honestly don't think they (Coates et al), realise how damaging it is to the morale of the fans, and by extension, the city, when they underperform to such a degree. Have you ever seen the look on their faces when they leave after another soul destroying defeat? There's nothing they can do inside the 90 minutes. They know exactly how damaging it is to morale. And yet they carry on, It must hurt them mate. It pisses me off and I've just paid for the ticket so it's got to hurt when you've pumped god knows how much in and you are watching some of the shit we've churned out. |
|
|
|
Post by J-Roar on Oct 29, 2024 17:45:11 GMT
apparently John Coates is going nowhere. Both him and the club he owns. Wrong. We're going backwards on the pitch. |
|
|
|
Post by J-Roar on Oct 29, 2024 17:47:23 GMT
The difference is, in the 7 years we've been down in this league all those other clubs have either gone back up, or finished in the top 6 at least once and had a good crack at it. The best we've managed is 14th. I agree with that mate but there are clubs who have dropped down to the league below like Derby etc. Hopefully we don't follow suit. We've not had a top half finish since we changed the name of the stadium. Perhaps we'll carry on this record for 365 seasons. |
|
|
|
Post by J-Roar on Oct 29, 2024 17:48:18 GMT
Have you ever seen the look on their faces when they leave after another soul destroying defeat? There's nothing they can do inside the 90 minutes. They know exactly how damaging it is to morale. And yet they carry on, It must hurt them mate. It pisses me off and I've just paid for the ticket so it's got to hurt when you've pumped god knows how much in and you are watching some of the shit we've churned out. The difference is, it's their fault. |
|
|
|
Post by jokker on Oct 29, 2024 18:48:35 GMT
It must hurt them mate. It pisses me off and I've just paid for the ticket so it's got to hurt when you've pumped god knows how much in and you are watching some of the shit we've churned out. The difference is, it's their fault. Nonsense.They're responsible for the overall running of the club but they're not responsible for the latest defeat. If they were, they'd be responsible for the latest win too, yet, no one sent them paper andd roses when that happened. |
|
|
|
Post by tuum on Oct 29, 2024 18:58:11 GMT
Even if your partner, brother and father were the main players? If Denise for one second thought that Stoke City was damaging the Bet 365 brand (don't get me started on sports gambling), she would drop any association like the hottest of autumnal baked spuds. Denise is gambling averse - and this is why she is wealthy to a degree that is morally questionable quite frankly - and this aversion to risk taking is why she herself doesn't own Stoke City. And she knows full well that she knows sod all about running a football club. Her brother on the other hand, and her husband perhaps, should know a damn site more than they appear to do. Her husband is a civil/structural engineer. He is there to project manage the facilities side of the enterprise. I doubt he gets involved too much in the football side of things. |
|
|
|
Post by stokief on Oct 29, 2024 19:31:35 GMT
The thing is there are plenty of big clubs in our league who are struggling to get out of it. Is it wank at the minute, of course it is and we all want better but it's not as straight forward as that. Not a job I'd like to have running a football club at all but I just live in hope that things get better despite the signs not looking great at all. It literally pays to yo-yo up and down with the ridiculous FFP regs. Go up, reap the benefits but don't spend enough really to try and stay up, come back down, fat parachute, keep most of your players as they know they're not going to really make it in the Prem but they're much stronger than the sides who are now tied in to perpetual mediocrity of the rest of the Championship. Can't sign the players even if you can afford them and they go where the money is. Total shambles. Pure luck if you manage to get a side together that can haul you out of it. |
|
|
|
Post by Vermelho20312505 on Oct 29, 2024 19:35:46 GMT
Are you saying that ST prices haven't been frozen for all these years? No what he’s saying is the prices have been frozen but we’ve been overtaken by a number of clubs but you can’t mention it because we’re all suppose to believe the prices are incredible value for money and we should lap it up like North Korean citizens. We'd think the prices were great if we weren't shit. |
|
|
|
Post by J-Roar on Oct 29, 2024 21:23:54 GMT
The difference is, it's their fault. Nonsense.They're responsible for the overall running of the club but they're not responsible for the latest defeat. If they were, they'd be responsible for the latest win too, yet, no one sent them paper andd roses when that happened. They are accountable. |
|
|
|
Post by potters11 on Oct 29, 2024 23:35:24 GMT
No what he’s saying is the prices have been frozen but we’ve been overtaken by a number of clubs but you can’t mention it because we’re all suppose to believe the prices are incredible value for money and we should lap it up like North Korean citizens. We'd think the prices were great if we weren't shit. Nope not for me, I think the prices are fine. If we were top of the league they’d be fine, if we were bottom of the league they’d be fine. My problem is with the club hoodwinking everyone into thinking we’re the only team in the land paying 2008 prices when the reality is other teams are bettering that! |
|
|
|
Post by Vermelho20312505 on Oct 29, 2024 23:43:21 GMT
We'd think the prices were great if we weren't shit. Nope not for me, I think the prices are fine. If we were top of the league they’d be fine, if we were bottom of the league they’d be fine. My problem is with the club hoodwinking everyone into thinking we’re the only team in the land paying 2008 prices when the reality is other teams are bettering that! Do they say that we're the only team doing that? I don't recall Amy communications to that effect. |
|
|
|
Post by potters11 on Oct 29, 2024 23:50:56 GMT
Nope not for me, I think the prices are fine. If we were top of the league they’d be fine, if we were bottom of the league they’d be fine. My problem is with the club hoodwinking everyone into thinking we’re the only team in the land paying 2008 prices when the reality is other teams are bettering that! Do they say that we're the only team doing that? I don't recall Amy communications to that effect. It’s the undertone to the marketing where I feel it and you can’t argue that with me because it’s how I feel it comes across. |
|
|
|
Post by jokker on Oct 30, 2024 4:30:09 GMT
Nonsense.They're responsible for the overall running of the club but they're not responsible for the latest defeat. If they were, they'd be responsible for the latest win too, yet, no one sent them paper andd roses when that happened. They are accountable. For the running of the club, yes. For Dixon penalised and Mannhof for not falling dramatically enough, no Jon Coates is not accountable for that ! |
|
|
|
Post by Vermelho20312505 on Oct 30, 2024 8:44:09 GMT
Do they say that we're the only team doing that? I don't recall Amy communications to that effect. It’s the undertone to the marketing where I feel it and you can’t argue that with me because it’s how I feel it comes across. You can feel how you feel but others don't. I haven't been hoodwinked into anything. The prices have been frozen for a long long time and whether they are cheap enough is a matter of opinion. Also whether others are better value is a matter of opinion. That's largely irrelevant to me as I'm not going to be buying a season ticket anywhere else. |
|
|
|
Post by Picasso on Oct 30, 2024 11:29:57 GMT
I agree with that mate but there are clubs who have dropped down to the league below like Derby etc. Hopefully we don't follow suit. We've not had a top half finish since we changed the name of the stadium. Perhaps we'll carry on this record for 365 seasons. You could put a bet on that, if you know any bookies that would be interested. |
|
