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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 29, 2024 10:05:11 GMT
I am not sure that the fans are anywhere near to 'turning' on the owners. Rightly or wrongly.
There has been almost a decade of decline at this football club and barely a murmur from the fanbase.
The truth is that apathy has set in.
However, if we drop back down into the third tier then that is unforgivable really.
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Post by ian57 on Oct 29, 2024 10:17:12 GMT
I don't think they will. It's not like there is some benevolent buyer waiting in the wings is it? 'Loss making football club, down on its luck, in a 2-club town which time has forgotten, seeks new owners to throw good money after bad.' It's not happening any time soon. an average championship club that has won 1 major trophy in its entire existence and managed 10 seasons of premier league football before slipping back into football league mediocrity. Who in their right mind would invest in such a club when there are alternatives like Sunderland,Leeds,the two Sheffield clubs,bigger clubs than us with a history of success not a history of underachieving. |
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Post by premieraj on Oct 29, 2024 10:35:46 GMT
I don't think they will. It's not like there is some benevolent buyer waiting in the wings is it? 'Loss making football club, down on its luck, in a 2-club town which time has forgotten, seeks new owners to throw good money after bad.' It's not happening any time soon. an average championship club that has won 1 major trophy in its entire existence and managed 10 seasons of premier league football before slipping back into football league mediocrity. Who in their right mind would invest in such a club when there are alternatives like Sunderland,Leeds,the two Sheffield clubs,bigger clubs than us with a history of success not a history of underachieving. What have Sheffield clubs won? Sunderland fa cup 73? |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 29, 2024 10:38:58 GMT
I don't think they will. It's not like there is some benevolent buyer waiting in the wings is it? 'Loss making football club, down on its luck, in a 2-club town which time has forgotten, seeks new owners to throw good money after bad.' It's not happening any time soon. an average championship club that has won 1 major trophy in its entire existence and managed 10 seasons of premier league football before slipping back into football league mediocrity. Who in their right mind would invest in such a club when there are alternatives like Sunderland,Leeds,the two Sheffield clubs,bigger clubs than us with a history of success not a history of underachieving. So only big clubs with rich histories get bought do they?  This argument is absolutely pathetic. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Oct 29, 2024 10:47:51 GMT
Good job Ryan Reynolds didn't read the Wrexham messageboard.......
With some half-decent leadership, Stoke City (a city right in the middle of the country, with 4 major airports nearby, and major road/rail infrastructure, capable of getting 30K every home game) could easily be a regular player in the Premier League, ensuring around £100m a year in revenue. We are actually pretty attractive as a football club. But yet again, we have the glass-half-empty Stokie attitude of putting ourselves down. No wonder no fucker invests in the city.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 29, 2024 10:54:30 GMT
Good job Ryan Reynolds didn't read the Wrexham messageboard....... With some half-decent leadership, Stoke City (a city right in the middle of the country, with 4 major airports nearby, and major road/rail infrastructure, capable of getting 30K every home game) could easily be a regular player in the Premier League, ensuring around £100m a year in revenue. We are actually pretty attractive as a football club. But yet again, we have the glass-half-empty Stokie attitude of putting ourselves down. No wonder no fucker invests in the city. This is absolutely spot on mate. More backwards thinking from a backwards thinking city. Little old Stoke, we don't like change round these parts  |
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Post by questionable on Oct 29, 2024 10:57:57 GMT
Good job Ryan Reynolds didn't read the Wrexham messageboard....... With some half-decent leadership, Stoke City (a city right in the middle of the country, with 4 major airports nearby, and major road/rail infrastructure, capable of getting 30K every home game) could easily be a regular player in the Premier League, ensuring around £100m a year in revenue. We are actually pretty attractive as a football club. But yet again, we have the glass-half-empty Stokie attitude of putting ourselves down. No wonder no fucker invests in the city. I’ve always said this of a vast majority of our support, we’re basically praising the owners for years of decline, some are happy with a freeze on ST prices for very poor quality football, free coaches to yet again watch poor quality football by us and chuck in standing and extortionate priced food and that’s the owners off the book yet again. Bonkers |
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Post by anchorman on Oct 29, 2024 11:09:29 GMT
My Dad used to say that Stoke City was always run as a business rather than a football club…The Butler Street Stand fiasco being a classic example. We were a centre forward short of a championship winning team at the time and we ended up selling the Crown Jewels to fund the uninsured roof (maybe not so business minded then just stupid!)….the supporters would have chosen the centre forward and winning trophies and would have happily sat/stood in a roofless Butler Street stand to witness it. We really are the masters of clutching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Post by idle on Oct 29, 2024 11:09:50 GMT
Then we’ll be stuck with John Coates who doesn’t seem to know his arse from a hole in the ground. In true John Coates fashion he'll go back to an old style manager system where they run the club from top to bottom. A Moyes/Pulis/Allardyce type. It's the way he operates, when one thing doesn't work just throw it in the bin and spend millions on another system and hope it will work. Come home, MON! |
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Post by Eggybread on Oct 29, 2024 11:56:56 GMT
Apathy has well and truly set in and has been for a long time.Theres no atmosphere in the ground and the fans just seem to be waiting for the opposition to score so they can start booing and moaning.Theres no patience and no support.90% of the pro clubs in England will have a season similar to ours with a few having a worse season.What makes us different, our history says we are a mid table championship side?
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Post by bunnyscfc on Oct 29, 2024 12:07:40 GMT
"A season"? try 7, and counting. Of constant misery. Most teams in that time period have at least 2 cracks at a PLay off place or promotion. It's not just shit, it's boring shit.
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 29, 2024 12:16:12 GMT
Not sure what people’s definition of a relegation battle is, but IMO, we’re already in it. In fact we’ve been in one for years. Where’s Hudsongod when you need him? Paddling his Kanu up shit creek |
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Post by greenhoff on Oct 29, 2024 12:16:43 GMT
Apathy has well and truly set in and has been for a long time.Theres no atmosphere in the ground and the fans just seem to be waiting for the opposition to score so they can start booing and moaning.Theres no patience and no support.90% of the pro clubs in England will have a season similar to ours with a few having a worse season.What makes us different, our history says we are a mid table championship side? This would stand if we hadn’t given our status in the top flight away! If we had troubled the play offs despite significant resources. It’s been absolutely crap for too long! |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 29, 2024 12:29:04 GMT
I don't think they will. It's not like there is some benevolent buyer waiting in the wings is it? 'Loss making football club, down on its luck, in a 2-club town which time has forgotten, seeks new owners to throw good money after bad.' It's not happening any time soon. an average championship club that has won 1 major trophy in its entire existence and managed 10 seasons of premier league football before slipping back into football league mediocrity. Who in their right mind would invest in such a club when there are alternatives like Sunderland,Leeds,the two Sheffield clubs,bigger clubs than us with a history of success not a history of underachieving. I think the bigger issue is someone suitable the owner could make it very easy for someone to take it bit someone writhe fiscal muscle required is a veery different thing , football is littered with people with eyes bigger than their belly |
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 29, 2024 13:18:29 GMT
Derby really is a must win. I really fear that the crowd will turn if we get less than 3 points. I've always said that targeting individual players is counterproductive and will destroy their confidence. Let's keep everything crossed that we get 3 points, removing some of the pressure from Pelach and the team. It's a massive game, it's not a must win. It’s a must win game in terms of keeping fans from boiling over and keeping that extra nail out of Pèlach s coffin but it’s not a must win game in terms of relegation |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 29, 2024 13:19:24 GMT
Apathy has well and truly set in and has been for a long time.Theres no atmosphere in the ground and the fans just seem to be waiting for the opposition to score so they can start booing and moaning.Theres no patience and no support.90% of the pro clubs in England will have a season similar to ours with a few having a worse season.What makes us different, our history says we are a mid table championship side? History says no such thing. We’ve spent more of our history dining at the top table of English football than we have anywhere else and this despite a 23 year exile prior to promotion. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 29, 2024 13:50:09 GMT
Saturday is a very big game for the manager and the club against a team that are 4 unbeaten but also without an away win this season. I really do fear it will become toxic if we go behind and we don’t look like getting back into it. We haven’t beaten them since the Rowett snake game so we’re due but my worry is our lack of physicality against the best dead ball side in the division may cause us issues. Oh fuck does that mean charity bus is rolling again 🤦♂️ |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2024 13:53:11 GMT
Saturday is a very big game for the manager and the club against a team that are 4 unbeaten but also without an away win this season. I really do fear it will become toxic if we go behind and we don’t look like getting back into it. We haven’t beaten them since the Rowett snake game so we’re due but my worry is our lack of physicality against the best dead ball side in the division may cause us issues. Oh fuck does that mean charity bus is rolling again 🤦♂️ I really do hope not mate |
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 29, 2024 13:57:21 GMT
Oh fuck does that mean charity bus is rolling again 🤦♂️ I really do hope not mate It’s a massive game on Saturday we need to win for the fans and the manager. We need him to succeed |
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 29, 2024 13:59:45 GMT
We can't hide away from the fact that it is a massive game on so many levels, a defeat wouldn't be terminal, but extremely damaging for all concerned.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2024 14:02:07 GMT
I really do hope not mate It’s a massive game on Saturday we need to win for the fans and the manager. We need him to succeed I agree and I’d say the 2 home games after are also big games against Millwall and Preston |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 29, 2024 14:06:33 GMT
It’s a massive game on Saturday we need to win for the fans and the manager. We need him to succeed I agree and I’d say the 2 home games after are also big games against Millwall and Preston He needs six points minimum from these 3 home games. |
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Post by premieraj on Oct 29, 2024 14:12:01 GMT
I’d love to know what good fans turning does other than create an atmosphere that sees players freeze. When has it done anything in our history? I understand the frustration of course but it’s futile.
Save it to boo at the end if you must.
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 29, 2024 14:18:27 GMT
It’s a massive game on Saturday we need to win for the fans and the manager. We need him to succeed I agree and I’d say the 2 home games after are also big games against Millwall and Preston Yeh agree mate only thing is Preston seem to have improved but there won’t be a better run of 3 homes games that are winnable |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2024 14:18:42 GMT
I agree and I’d say the 2 home games after are also big games against Millwall and Preston He needs six points minimum from these 3 home games. Yes I agree and especially looking at the December fixture list |
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 29, 2024 14:19:56 GMT
I agree and I’d say the 2 home games after are also big games against Millwall and Preston He needs six points minimum from these 3 home games. Agree but really could do with 9 from those games |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Oct 29, 2024 14:22:09 GMT
Massive game & must win for the manager more than anything else.
Lose this game & his job could be on the line. One things for sure we will find out if the players are giving there all for the manager.
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Post by Eggybread on Oct 29, 2024 15:14:19 GMT
Apathy has well and truly set in and has been for a long time.Theres no atmosphere in the ground and the fans just seem to be waiting for the opposition to score so they can start booing and moaning.Theres no patience and no support.90% of the pro clubs in England will have a season similar to ours with a few having a worse season.What makes us different, our history says we are a mid table championship side? History says no such thing. We’ve spent more of our history dining at the top table of English football than we have anywhere else and this despite a 23 year exile prior to promotion. The last stint must have tipped the scales then. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 29, 2024 15:16:48 GMT
History says no such thing. We’ve spent more of our history dining at the top table of English football than we have anywhere else and this despite a 23 year exile prior to promotion. The last stint must have tipped the scales then. 62 seasons in the top flight, 48 in the 2nd tier and 8 in the 3rd tier...... |
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Post by kustokie on Oct 29, 2024 16:35:47 GMT
an average championship club that has won 1 major trophy in its entire existence and managed 10 seasons of premier league football before slipping back into football league mediocrity. Who in their right mind would invest in such a club when there are alternatives like Sunderland,Leeds,the two Sheffield clubs,bigger clubs than us with a history of success not a history of underachieving. What have Sheffield clubs won? Sunderland fa cup 73? Stoke’s and Sunderland’s records are about the same. However, I am sorry to say the fan support at sunderland puts Stoke to shame. They broke the attendance record in League 1 of 45,000 and sell out every match in the Championdhip |
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