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Post by kustokie on Oct 27, 2024 19:46:41 GMT
…turn on the owners and demand a change. John Coates couldn’t manage a pub and Jon Walters is way out of his depth.
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Post by BrummiePotter on Oct 27, 2024 20:05:54 GMT
…turn on the owners and demand a change. John Coates couldn’t manage a pub and Jon Walters is way out of his depth. If it was going to happen then it probably would have happened by now during the past 7 years. Personally I take defeat with a shrug of the shoulders now when previously it would have ruined the weekend - poor performances have become the norm over the past 7 years and a lack of progress is inevitable. I think the majority of us have had the enthusiasm and passion knocked out of us - the lockdown period showed that there’s more to life than getting worked up over a football club that couldn’t care less about you. I’ll still continue to turn up every game but like many others apathy has won this battle. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 27, 2024 20:22:39 GMT
Apathy does indeed reign but I reckon that relegation to the third tier (for the third time under the Coates tenure I might add) will finally see the scales fall from the eyes of even the most ardent of billionaire bummers and, as my old dear often says: "There'll be hell up".
For me, the day the incompetent monied dickheads are finally removed from this once great club can't come soon enough.
Coates Out.
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Post by Picasso on Oct 27, 2024 20:31:46 GMT
…turn on the owners and demand a change. John Coates couldn’t manage a pub and Jon Walters is way out of his depth. Pelach needs to be given a chance, he’s still new. If he turns out to be good, then the owners will have played a blinder - Yes, it looks highly unlikely that will happen, but for this new appointment, it’s early days, still. However, the release of Schumacher, unfathomable as it was at the time, continues to look like a very poor decision. Schumacher’s trajectory was going in the right direction, despite some bumps along the way and that awful show at Oxford. There’s good reason to turn on the owners, but this new tenure is too recent. He needs his chance. |
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Post by Gods on Oct 27, 2024 20:44:58 GMT
I don't think they will.
It's not like there is some benevolent buyer waiting in the wings is it?
'Loss making football club, down on its luck, in a 2-club town which time has forgotten, seeks new owners to throw good money after bad.'
It's not happening any time soon.
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 27, 2024 20:47:56 GMT
…turn on the owners and demand a change. John Coates couldn’t manage a pub and Jon Walters is way out of his depth. If it was going to happen then it probably would have happened by now during the past 7 years. Personally I take defeat with a shrug of the shoulders now when previously it would have ruined the weekend - poor performances have become the norm over the past 7 years and a lack of progress is inevitable. I think the majority of us have had the enthusiasm and passion knocked out of us - the lockdown period showed that there’s more to life than getting worked up over a football club that couldn’t care less about you. I’ll still continue to turn up every game but like many others apathy has won this battle. Good post and probably the thoughts of most people. |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Oct 27, 2024 20:50:16 GMT
Still say now turn on the owners as bad as they seem to be and what? Out of the frying pan into a bloody hot fire I think it would be, unless bayern and the rest of the know it alls on here club together and buy it, something needs to change though no doubt about that.
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 27, 2024 21:11:32 GMT
Ive always been in the camp of rather them stay they can afford it. Im now in the camp of there is more to life, i honestly think ive watched my last Stoke game. Fuck this constant disappointment. Fully understand others that stay and continue to support the club, but for me im about done.
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Post by fraybentos on Oct 27, 2024 21:16:26 GMT
We have great owners, free travel frozen ticket prices, ongoing investment. I’m sure we will see more investment in Jan
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 28, 2024 7:55:18 GMT
Apathy does indeed reign but I reckon that relegation to the third tier (for the third time under the Coates tenure I might add) will finally see the scales fall from the eyes of even the most ardent of billionaire bummers and, as my old dear often says: "There'll be hell up". For me, the day the incompetent monied dickheads are finally removed from this once great club can't come soon enough. Coates Out. I saw The Billionaire Bummers support World of Twist... |
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Post by tuum on Oct 28, 2024 8:13:41 GMT
We have great owners, free travel frozen ticket prices, ongoing investment. I’m sure we will see more investment in Jan I gave you a like because it tickled me to think of many of the posters on here hyper-ventilating after reading your post. |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Oct 28, 2024 8:27:21 GMT
How long before the fans turn on the owners.
Good question they have got off very lightly I would say considering the awful mess they have created.
This coming game on Saturday could be interesting playing a local rival large away following not doing to badly since promotion.
If we go a goal down I think that just maybe the tipping point when fans turn on our very rich owners.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 28, 2024 8:44:23 GMT
We have great owners, free travel frozen ticket prices, ongoing investment. I’m sure we will see more investment in Jan The frozen ticket prices are a bit of a myth though, yes they're affordable but they're not the cheapest in the league and the likes of West Brom have cheaper. In fact at last check, we were in the top 10 for most expensive I think. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 28, 2024 8:46:52 GMT
I don't think they will. It's not like there is some benevolent buyer waiting in the wings is it? 'Loss making football club, down on its luck, in a 2-club town which time has forgotten, seeks new owners to throw good money after bad.' It's not happening any time soon. But what about all the rappers… |
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Post by skip on Oct 28, 2024 8:54:26 GMT
I don't think they will. It's not like there is some benevolent buyer waiting in the wings is it? 'Loss making football club, down on its luck, in a 2-club town which time has forgotten, seeks new owners to throw good money after bad.' It's not happening any time soon. But what about all the rappers… Well, now that A$AP Rocky is putting money into Tranmere Rovers, all Bayern needs to do is get in the blower to Busta. |
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Post by skip on Oct 28, 2024 8:57:00 GMT
I don't think they will. It's not like there is some benevolent buyer waiting in the wings is it? 'Loss making football club, down on its luck, in a 2-club town which time has forgotten, seeks new owners to throw good money after bad.' It's not happening any time soon. Hope you don't work in sales! |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 28, 2024 9:02:53 GMT
I don't think they will. It's not like there is some benevolent buyer waiting in the wings is it? 'Loss making football club, down on its luck, in a 2-club town which time has forgotten, seeks new owners to throw good money after bad.' It's not happening any time soon. Hope you don't work in sales! 😂 Classic club - restoration project - been garaged for 7 years. Reverse gear works fine, problem with moving forward. Bodywork no problem the engine is fucked! Offers. 🤪 |
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Post by flea79 on Oct 28, 2024 9:40:20 GMT
How long before the fans turn on the owners. Good question they have got off very lightly I would say considering the awful mess they have created. This coming game on Saturday could be interesting playing a local rival large away following not doing to badly since promotion. If we go a goal down I think that just maybe the tipping point when fans turn on our very rich owners. been saying it for years it wont happen if it does it could be Brum at home in 97-98 all over again but i very much doubt it |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 28, 2024 9:49:02 GMT
…turn on the owners and demand a change. John Coates couldn’t manage a pub and Jon Walters is way out of his depth. So are you proposing: 1 Organise a demonstration that forces the owners out and take the chance that they don't just wind up the club or sell to the first asset stripper they can find? 2 Organise a fan buy out. 3 Identify better, new owners and work with them to oust the current owners. I'll consider helping out if it's the last 2 but if its the first it really isnt a good plan. In fact it really doesn't qualify as a plan at all - its just an act of self harm. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 28, 2024 9:55:50 GMT
I honestly think the best thing he could do, in his own interests and the club's, is to:
Stand aside as Chairman
Remain as owner
Employ a CEO
Get rid of Walters
Bring in an experienced DoF to run the football side
Bring in a proper manager
It's fanciful stuff I know!
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Post by skip on Oct 28, 2024 10:09:49 GMT
…turn on the owners and demand a change. John Coates couldn’t manage a pub and Jon Walters is way out of his depth. So are you proposing: 1 Organise a demonstration that forces the owners out and take the chance that they don't just wind up the club or sell to the first asset stripper they can find? 2 Organise a fan buy out. 3 Identify better, new owners and work with them to oust the current owners. I'll consider helping out if it's the last 2 but if its the first it really isnt a good plan. In fact it really doesn't qualify as a plan at all - its just an act of self harm. They wouldn't sell to asset strippers - their family legacy would go down in flames and for all their faults, they do care about the area. Stoke on Trent is one of the poorest areas in the UK to have a professional football club the size and stature of Stoke City. There isn't the money for a fan buy out. I do wish John Coates would employ someone to run the fucking club though. Just enjoy owning the club but step away from making the big decisions. |
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Post by questionable on Oct 28, 2024 10:15:30 GMT
I think this weekends game against Derby (if we lose) will see the anti turned up against Pound Land Jon and the grand overseer of this total shit show Coates
Coates OUT
Pound Land OUT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 28, 2024 10:16:43 GMT
I honestly think the best thing he could do, in his own interests and the club's, is to: Stand aside as Chairman Remain as owner Employ a CEO Get rid of Walters Bring in an experienced DoF to run the football side Bring in a proper manager It's fanciful stuff I know! Problem is none of that guarantees success. In isolation there has been nothing wrong with some of the appointments that have been made. We're not making widgets in a factory where we can play around with production numbers and reduce costs to suit. Football is unique and there are plenty of business brains out there who haven't been able to translate their knowhow into success on the pitch. Man Utd is the perfect example of that....... |
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 28, 2024 10:21:03 GMT
I honestly think the best thing he could do, in his own interests and the club's, is to: Stand aside as Chairman Remain as owner Employ a CEO Get rid of Walters Bring in an experienced DoF to run the football side Bring in a proper manager It's fanciful stuff I know! Problem is none of that guarantees success. In isolation there has been nothing wrong with some of the appointments that have been made. We're not making widgets in a factory where we can play around with production numbers and reduce costs to suit. Football is unique and there are plenty of business brains out there who haven't been able to translate their knowhow into success on the pitch. Man Utd is the perfect example of that....... But we also can't continue how we are. We've got a complete lack of experience at the top of the club, certainly the football arm (you know, the bit we're most bothered about!) It's been 8 years of circling the drain. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 28, 2024 10:22:00 GMT
Derby really is a must win. I really fear that the crowd will turn if we get less than 3 points. I've always said that targeting individual players is counterproductive and will destroy their confidence. Let's keep everything crossed that we get 3 points, removing some of the pressure from Pelach and the team.
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Post by premieraj on Oct 28, 2024 10:22:54 GMT
I don’t think many would be seeking change if the financial rules change in our favour?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 28, 2024 10:24:01 GMT
Problem is none of that guarantees success. In isolation there has been nothing wrong with some of the appointments that have been made. We're not making widgets in a factory where we can play around with production numbers and reduce costs to suit. Football is unique and there are plenty of business brains out there who haven't been able to translate their knowhow into success on the pitch. Man Utd is the perfect example of that....... But we also can't continue how we are. We've got a complete lack of experience at the top of the club, certainly the football arm (you know, the bit we're most bothered about!) It's been 8 years of circling the drain.I know, people keep saying. It's frustrating, I get it. We've tried experience, we've tried up and coming, we've now gone foreign it's not for the lack of trying. How come one of the biggest clubs in the world Man Utd can't just devise a successful strategy to get back on track if it's that easy? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 28, 2024 10:24:35 GMT
Derby really is a must win. I really fear that the crowd will turn if we get less than 3 points. I've always said that targeting individual players is counterproductive and will destroy their confidence. Let's keep everything crossed that we get 3 points, removing some of the pressure from Pelach and the team. It's a massive game, it's not a must win. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 28, 2024 10:27:57 GMT
But we also can't continue how we are. We've got a complete lack of experience at the top of the club, certainly the football arm (you know, the bit we're most bothered about!) It's been 8 years of circling the drain.I know, people keep saying. It's frustrating, I get it. We've tried experience, we've tried up and coming, we've now gone foreign it's not for the lack of trying. How come one of the biggest clubs in the world Man Utd can't just devise a successful strategy to get back on track if it's that easy? Where have I said it's easy? My opinion is we can't continue as we're currently set up. |
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Post by premieraj on Oct 28, 2024 10:30:09 GMT
Let’s face it we are not play off material by far and hopefully not relegation but lower mid table.
The bloke has a painfully thin and inexperienced squad to work with and desperately needs some injuries to clear up. Also we need to dig in until January and hope we could make a couple of decent additions. I think with that we can survive and hopefully steady the ship.
The season is really over other than trying to consolidate. We are desperate for a couple of wins though in the next few games.
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