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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 27, 2024 9:38:21 GMT
Beginning to look like relegation and throwing millions at promotion a la Brum might be the way to go.
Obviously though, it being Stoke:
A) financial rules would be changed to make it illegal to spend excessively.
And/Or
B) the Coates family would sell up and we’d be taken over by a dodgy consortium with big promises and no cash
We’re fucked aren’t we?
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 27, 2024 9:43:31 GMT
Beginning to look like relegation and throwing millions at promotion a la Brum might be the way to go. Obviously though, it being Stoke: A) financial rules would be changed to make it illegal to spend excessively. And/Or B) the Coates family would sell up and we’d be taken over by a dodgy consortium with big promises and no cash We’re fucked aren’t we? Relegation would completely fuck us. As a Stoke fan I have NEVER said that the Coates family should sell up but I'm now starting to wonder if this would now be a good idea. I've got zero faith in John, or his ability to make credible decisions. |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 27, 2024 9:51:17 GMT
It would be an unmitigated disaster. I’ve seen us condemned to that ale house league twice too often already.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Oct 27, 2024 9:55:36 GMT
Quite a few I have heard muttering this..
Why just why would we want to be in the dog and duck league again? As said above an unmitigated disaster we would spend millions and get nowhere.. shakes head.😞
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 27, 2024 9:59:16 GMT
There are examples of teams coming back into the Championship a lot stronger after a spell in League One ie Ipswich,Sunderland,Derby(to an extent) but surely no one can see relegation as an answer to the current problems 🤷♂️
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 27, 2024 10:02:51 GMT
Same thing was said when we were struggling in the Prem, didn’t work then, won’t work now.
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Post by smithypotter on Oct 27, 2024 10:08:01 GMT
The thought of John Coates throwing millions at the wall in League 1 for another desperate scramble in hoping that something sticks is frightening.
The bloke cannot be trusted it's a simple as that.
Being a fan of the club i.e offering free coaches means nothing ultimately if fans stop showing to games.
I'm not going to say they should sell up, but if they did, i'm past the point of caring.
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Post by jay1610 on Oct 27, 2024 10:14:26 GMT
The difference with Birmingham is they’ve got a bigger momentum behind them with the Tom Brady connection and the commercial opportunities that offers for hangers-on.
We, by comparison, have a leadership vacuum and no one gives a toss about us.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Oct 27, 2024 10:20:10 GMT
If that was to happen we would f**k that up as well with this clown in charge.
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 27, 2024 10:33:09 GMT
There are examples of teams coming back into the Championship a lot stronger after a spell in League One ie Ipswich,Sunderland,Derby(to an extent) but surely no one can see relegation as an answer to the current problems 🤷♂️ Luton also but we would fuck it up for sure |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 27, 2024 10:42:17 GMT
A big difference is Birmingham seem to have got their shit sorted off the pitch, we dont
If we drop I wouldnt be putting any money on us bouncing straight back up
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Post by canadianmoose on Oct 27, 2024 10:51:32 GMT
Ah yes, just like the “reset” when we got relegated from the Premier League?
That worked out well. No thanks.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 27, 2024 10:51:40 GMT
Whatever we did, go down or stay up…..the club is screwed. We would mess things up if we stayed up or went down. I just really don’t know what the answer is, but it certainly isn’t one with an upwards trajectory.
Who would’ve thought Sunderland would be where they are now compared to where we were comparatively on our relegation. Or Derby watching them get relegated. The club is a shit show from top to bottom.
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Post by jay1610 on Oct 27, 2024 10:59:26 GMT
There are examples of teams coming back into the Championship a lot stronger after a spell in League One ie Ipswich,Sunderland,Derby(to an extent) but surely no one can see relegation as an answer to the current problems 🤷♂️ Luton also but we would fuck it up for sure Luton went a hell of a lot further than League One. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 27, 2024 11:54:40 GMT
I know relegation would be shit. But hard to imagine it being much shitter than the last few seasons.
Actually winning a few games would be nice.
But yes I know it’s defeatist talk. It’s just becoming increasingly difficult to be optimistic or even find cause for optimism.
Toxic on the pitch. Off the pitch. And judging from the rumours of the Campbell chants the toxicity is taking root in the stands.
It really is fucking grim.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 27, 2024 12:02:25 GMT
We wouldn’t come back up.
The Coates need to sell up asap.
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 27, 2024 12:03:31 GMT
Yeah, let's have a reset in League 1.
Then, a few years after that, we can have another reset in League 2.
Then another in the National League.
With any luck, we can reset the club right out of existence.
(The only reset this club requires is the removal of the Coates Family before the damage they're doing through sheer incompetence becomes insurmountable).
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Post by Ron on Oct 27, 2024 12:06:32 GMT
I know relegation would be shit. But hard to imagine it being much shitter than the last few seasons. Actually winning a few games would be nice. But yes I know it’s defeatist talk. It’s just becoming increasingly difficult to be optimistic or even find cause for optimism. Toxic on the pitch. Off the pitch. And judging from the rumours of the Campbell chants the toxicity is taking root in the stands. It really is fucking grim. this was what folk said when we went down from the prem. relegation is never ever good. The club is fucking rotten from top to bottom and lead by a man who’ll listen to the bullshit of whatever hanger on mate he’s listening to at that moment in time. From his bet365 clan appointing Jones to walters and Pelach this has simply got to stop. We need experienced football men who’ve achieved positive results with clubs in this division right now, not the latest Johnny come lately master tactician or pep wannabe who’s mates with the current captain, who’s mates with dof. Walters is not acting as a dof. He’s been given the keys to the kingdom. The Coates family too have lost the fucking plot, with one act of desperation after another, Pelach being the latest one. We assembled a squad that would struggle to get out of league one. I really do believe it’s that poor. I’ve said this previously, then we looked like turning a corner- but bar johannsson not a single summer signing has improved us. Not one. Over and over again we replace average players/ loan players with more of the same. It’s just unfathomable! For example being in cannon who neeeda a foil- the signing an injury prone foil with no backup is rank bad management. Shocking. Just as shocking as buying no mark unproven Japanese players who don’t know the league. Or am I jury prone Irish youngster who ur amature manager mate had on loan thought was decent. Really postive central midfield options to replace experienced players eh? Neglecting the right back position, signing one has been centre back ( who’s his ducking mate) when we couldn’t Defend for shit .. the list goes on and on. Appalling from top to bottom. It’s about time we showed the club as a collective fanbase we’re all fed up. Stop going. Turn our backs. Protest. But the f as are as complicit as the Coates family in the malaise these days, no passion anywhere. The clubs rotten to the core. We ain’t happy clapping our way out of this. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 27, 2024 12:09:44 GMT
I know relegation would be shit. But hard to imagine it being much shitter than the last few seasons. Actually winning a few games would be nice. But yes I know it’s defeatist talk. It’s just becoming increasingly difficult to be optimistic or even find cause for optimism. Toxic on the pitch. Off the pitch. And judging from the rumours of the Campbell chants the toxicity is taking root in the stands. It really is fucking grim. this was what folk said when we went down from the prem. relegation is never ever good. The club is fucking rotten from top to bottom and lead by a man who’ll listen to the bullshit of whatever hanger on mate he’s listening to at that moment in time. From his bet365 clan appointing Jones to walters and Pelach this has simply got to stop. We need experienced football men who’ve achieved positive results with clubs in this division right now, not the latest Johnny come lately master tactician or pep wannabe who’s mates with the current captain, who’s mates with dof. Walters is not acting as a dof. He’s been given the keys to the kingdom. The Coates family too have lost the fucking plot, with one act of desperation after another, Pelach being the latest one. We assembled a squad that would struggle to get out of league one. I really do believe it’s that poor. I’ve said this previously, then we looked like turning a corner- but bar johannsson not a single summer signing has improved us. Not one. Over and over again we replace average players/ loan players with more of the same. It’s just unfathomable! For example being in cannon who neeeda a foil- the signing an injury prone foil with no backup is rank bad management. Shocking. Just as shocking as buying no mark unproven Japanese players who don’t know the league. Or am I jury prone Irish youngster who ur amature manager mate had on loan thought was decent. Really postive central midfield options to replace experienced players eh? Neglecting the right back position, signing one has been centre back ( who’s his ducking mate) when we couldn’t Defend for shit .. the list goes on and on. Appalling from top to bottom. It’s about time we showed the club as a collective fanbase we’re all fed up. Stop going. Turn our backs. Protest. But the f as are as complicit as the Coates family in the malaise these days, no passion anywhere. The clubs rotten to the core. We ain’t happy clapping our way out of this. It was rotten to the core 7 years ago. Oh the abuse I got. Fucking idiots 🤣 |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 27, 2024 12:11:23 GMT
I know relegation would be shit. But hard to imagine it being much shitter than the last few seasons. Actually winning a few games would be nice. But yes I know it’s defeatist talk. It’s just becoming increasingly difficult to be optimistic or even find cause for optimism. Toxic on the pitch. Off the pitch. And judging from the rumours of the Campbell chants the toxicity is taking root in the stands. It really is fucking grim. this was what folk said when we went down from the prem. relegation is never ever good. The club is fucking rotten from top to bottom and lead by a man who’ll listen to the bullshit of whatever hanger on mate he’s listening to at that moment in time. From his bet365 clan appointing Jones to walters and Pelach this has simply got to stop. We need experienced football men who’ve achieved positive results with clubs in this division right now, not the latest Johnny come lately master tactician or pep wannabe who’s mates with the current captain, who’s mates with dof. Walters is not acting as a dof. He’s been given the keys to the kingdom. The Coates family too have lost the fucking plot, with one act of desperation after another, Pelach being the latest one. We assembled a squad that would struggle to get out of league one. I really do believe it’s that poor. I’ve said this previously, then we looked like turning a corner- but bar johannsson not a single summer signing has improved us. Not one. Over and over again we replace average players/ loan players with more of the same. It’s just unfathomable! For example being in cannon who neeeda a foil- the signing an injury prone foil with no backup is rank bad management. Shocking. Just as shocking as buying no mark unproven Japanese players who don’t know the league. Or am I jury prone Irish youngster who ur amature manager mate had on loan thought was decent. Really postive central midfield options to replace experienced players eh? Neglecting the right back position, signing one has been centre back ( who’s his ducking mate) when we couldn’t Defend for shit .. the list goes on and on. Appalling from top to bottom. It’s about time we showed the club as a collective fanbase we’re all fed up. Stop going. Turn our backs. Protest. But the f as are as complicit as the Coates family in the malaise these days, no passion anywhere. The clubs rotten to the core. We ain’t happy clapping our way out of this. Rotten to the core my arse. I don't know what "happy clapping your way out of this" actually means but what are you suggesting protests outside the main stand? |
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Post by Ron on Oct 27, 2024 12:11:25 GMT
this was what folk said when we went down from the prem. relegation is never ever good. The club is fucking rotten from top to bottom and lead by a man who’ll listen to the bullshit of whatever hanger on mate he’s listening to at that moment in time. From his bet365 clan appointing Jones to walters and Pelach this has simply got to stop. We need experienced football men who’ve achieved positive results with clubs in this division right now, not the latest Johnny come lately master tactician or pep wannabe who’s mates with the current captain, who’s mates with dof. Walters is not acting as a dof. He’s been given the keys to the kingdom. The Coates family too have lost the fucking plot, with one act of desperation after another, Pelach being the latest one. We assembled a squad that would struggle to get out of league one. I really do believe it’s that poor. I’ve said this previously, then we looked like turning a corner- but bar johannsson not a single summer signing has improved us. Not one. Over and over again we replace average players/ loan players with more of the same. It’s just unfathomable! For example being in cannon who neeeda a foil- the signing an injury prone foil with no backup is rank bad management. Shocking. Just as shocking as buying no mark unproven Japanese players who don’t know the league. Or am I jury prone Irish youngster who ur amature manager mate had on loan thought was decent. Really postive central midfield options to replace experienced players eh? Neglecting the right back position, signing one has been centre back ( who’s his ducking mate) when we couldn’t Defend for shit .. the list goes on and on. Appalling from top to bottom. It’s about time we showed the club as a collective fanbase we’re all fed up. Stop going. Turn our backs. Protest. But the f as are as complicit as the Coates family in the malaise these days, no passion anywhere. The clubs rotten to the core. We ain’t happy clapping our way out of this. It was rotten to the core 7 years ago. Oh the abuse I got. Fucking idiots 🤣 of that you are right Bayern. I don’t know why people are happy to put up with it? |
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Post by Ron on Oct 27, 2024 12:13:40 GMT
this was what folk said when we went down from the prem. relegation is never ever good. The club is fucking rotten from top to bottom and lead by a man who’ll listen to the bullshit of whatever hanger on mate he’s listening to at that moment in time. From his bet365 clan appointing Jones to walters and Pelach this has simply got to stop. We need experienced football men who’ve achieved positive results with clubs in this division right now, not the latest Johnny come lately master tactician or pep wannabe who’s mates with the current captain, who’s mates with dof. Walters is not acting as a dof. He’s been given the keys to the kingdom. The Coates family too have lost the fucking plot, with one act of desperation after another, Pelach being the latest one. We assembled a squad that would struggle to get out of league one. I really do believe it’s that poor. I’ve said this previously, then we looked like turning a corner- but bar johannsson not a single summer signing has improved us. Not one. Over and over again we replace average players/ loan players with more of the same. It’s just unfathomable! For example being in cannon who neeeda a foil- the signing an injury prone foil with no backup is rank bad management. Shocking. Just as shocking as buying no mark unproven Japanese players who don’t know the league. Or am I jury prone Irish youngster who ur amature manager mate had on loan thought was decent. Really postive central midfield options to replace experienced players eh? Neglecting the right back position, signing one has been centre back ( who’s his ducking mate) when we couldn’t Defend for shit .. the list goes on and on. Appalling from top to bottom. It’s about time we showed the club as a collective fanbase we’re all fed up. Stop going. Turn our backs. Protest. But the f as are as complicit as the Coates family in the malaise these days, no passion anywhere. The clubs rotten to the core. We ain’t happy clapping our way out of this. Rotten to the core my arse. I don't know what "happy clapping your way out of this" actually means but what are you suggesting protests outside the main stand? how is it not rotten? Every decaion the club makes is appalling. The free away travel etc is a way of controlling fans anger toward them. If finishing in the bottom half of the championship every year, appointing awful managers routinely, replacing bad with bad year on year is t rotten then what is? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 27, 2024 12:14:33 GMT
It was rotten to the core 7 years ago. Oh the abuse I got. Fucking idiots 🤣 of that you are right Bayern. I don’t know why people are happy to put up with it? No I don’t get it either. Scared of change? And I could understand back when I first said it but now? Nah. It’s totally illogical. It’s gone on for far too long and the owners clearly don’t have a clue how to change it. |
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Post by thornestein on Oct 27, 2024 12:15:02 GMT
We wouldn’t come back up. The Coates need to sell up asap. i’m not saying you’re wrong , but i don’t see a queue of ppl waiting to buy a football club at the moment , it’s a money pit and not many rich ppl want to lose their money |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 27, 2024 12:15:57 GMT
We wouldn’t come back up. The Coates need to sell up asap. i’m not saying you’re wrong , but i don’t see a queue of ppl waiting to buy a football club at the moment , it’s a money pit and not many rich ppl want to lose their money Loads of people are buying football clubs. Snoop Dogg might want us  |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 27, 2024 12:21:42 GMT
Rotten to the core my arse. I don't know what "happy clapping your way out of this" actually means but what are you suggesting protests outside the main stand? how is it not rotten? Every decaion the club makes is appalling. The free away travel etc is a way of controlling fans anger toward them. If finishing in the bottom half of the championship every year, appointing awful managers routinely, replacing bad with bad year on year is t rotten then what is? Finishing bottom of the Championship a few seasons running doesn't make a club rotten, it's just hysterical nonsense. The board royally fucked up by appointing Gary Rowett and giving him full autonomy to piss £50 odd million up the wall on overpriced dross, we're still paying the price for it. There are many other clubs stuck in a rut and trying all manner of things to try and get out of it, we're just one of them...... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 27, 2024 12:23:20 GMT
how is it not rotten? Every decaion the club makes is appalling. The free away travel etc is a way of controlling fans anger toward them. If finishing in the bottom half of the championship every year, appointing awful managers routinely, replacing bad with bad year on year is t rotten then what is? Finishing bottom of the Championship a few seasons running doesn't make a club rotten, it's just hysterical nonsense. The board royally fucked up by appointing Gary Rowett and giving him full autonomy to piss £50 odd million up the wall on overpriced dross, we're still paying the price for it. There are many other clubs stuck in a rut and trying all manner of things to try and get out of it, we're just one of them...... 🤣🤣🤣deluded head in the sand bollocks. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 27, 2024 12:25:40 GMT
how is it not rotten? Every decaion the club makes is appalling. The free away travel etc is a way of controlling fans anger toward them. If finishing in the bottom half of the championship every year, appointing awful managers routinely, replacing bad with bad year on year is t rotten then what is? Finishing bottom of the Championship a few seasons running doesn't make a club rotten, it's just hysterical nonsense. The board royally fucked up by appointing Gary Rowett and giving him full autonomy to piss £50 odd million up the wall on overpriced dross, we're still paying the price for it. There are many other clubs stuck in a rut and trying all manner of things to try and get out of it, we're just one of them...... Sadly we are one of a very big group. |
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Post by thornestein on Oct 27, 2024 12:30:51 GMT
i’m not saying you’re wrong , but i don’t see a queue of ppl waiting to buy a football club at the moment , it’s a money pit and not many rich ppl want to lose their money Loads of people are buying football clubs. Snoop Dogg might want us are they , who are they and what clubs ? And the Snoop thingy is getting old now lol 😂 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 27, 2024 12:32:49 GMT
Loads of people are buying football clubs. Snoop Dogg might want us are they , who are they and what clubs ? And the Snoop thingy is getting old now lol 😂 What’s old about it? People that don’t think something like that could happen clearly don’t have a fucking clue what’s going on with football clubs popularity amongst American celebs. |
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