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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 26, 2024 17:38:46 GMT
Anyone know why cannon came off bit of a strange one He was an absolute disgrace today. Played 35 mins more than he deserved |
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 26, 2024 17:41:23 GMT
Anyone know why cannon came off bit of a strange one Coz he’s crap maybe? Or simply that he was playing crap? I’ll be amazed if he’s still here post January. I don’t disagree mate. I’m sure he won’t be here in January been very disappointing |
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 26, 2024 17:42:23 GMT
Anyone know why cannon came off bit of a strange one He was an absolute disgrace today. Played 35 mins more than he deserved Fair enough but that could be said about a few of them especially that shit captain |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 26, 2024 17:52:32 GMT
Whilst Gallagher is out I’d be playing Koumas up front. The difference in attitude and work rate is huge.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 26, 2024 17:56:06 GMT
Whilst Gallagher is out I’d be playing Koumas up front. The difference in attitude and work rate is huge. Indeed, but I’m worried we are running Koumas into the ground and Liverpool are watching. The lads trying to do so much cos he’s surrounded by shite. If he keeps getting beasted the way he is, I can see a muscle or hammy injury not too far away. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 26, 2024 17:56:40 GMT
£10M  |
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Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 26, 2024 20:43:45 GMT
His body language stinks of someone who thinks he is far better than he is. Completely anonymous in every game bar against the worst side in the league.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 26, 2024 21:10:06 GMT
Whilst Gallagher is out I’d be playing Koumas up front. The difference in attitude and work rate is huge. It doesn't matter who we play up front,if we don't have the players to get the to him,we are truly wank when it comes to the final 1/3rd. |
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Post by Ygor on Oct 26, 2024 21:20:48 GMT
Quite simply... overrated.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 26, 2024 22:00:51 GMT
Subbed twice at half time at our trickiest away games says everything
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Post by pieofpeter on Oct 26, 2024 22:05:15 GMT
Not got the service but just convinced at all!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 26, 2024 22:30:16 GMT
Needs a partner
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 26, 2024 22:31:41 GMT
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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 26, 2024 22:35:54 GMT
Ridiculous to expect a borrowed 21 year old player with 40 odd games to single handedly fire us into the play offs. Shambles.
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Post by wilcopotter on Oct 26, 2024 22:40:16 GMT
His body language stinks of someone who thinks he is far better than he is. Completely anonymous in every game bar against the worst side in the league. Body language stinks off being in a totally mismanaged situation in which he’s trying to develop his career. Come to a poor side with no service and the coach who probably sold it to him has gone. Probably can’t wait to go back and be re-loaned to a better club. It’s happened several times now Delap, Clarke, Harwwod-Bellis etc. |
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Post by hinckpotter on Oct 26, 2024 22:43:03 GMT
I think he plays better with a partner also. Big man small man combo of old. Unfortunately gallagher is out so it is what it is.
I'd also try koumas as the attacking central midfielder and push junho back out to the left, mano on the right.
Really got fingers crossed for lawal making an Impression in midfield. He seems to be what we are missing. Pearson would also toughen us back up.
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Post by pieofpeter on Oct 26, 2024 22:44:52 GMT
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Post by stokiespark on Oct 26, 2024 22:47:06 GMT
Said he would score no more than 5 goals for us, felt silly after Portsmouth. Starting to feel like i was right initially.
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Post by canadianmoose on Oct 26, 2024 22:51:43 GMT
You could put fucking Haaland in this team and he wouldn’t score any goals.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Oct 26, 2024 22:54:06 GMT
You could put fucking Haaland in this team and he wouldn’t score any goals. Bollocks. We've created 2/3 really good chances today and Haaland in the end of them scores |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Oct 26, 2024 23:35:55 GMT
This probably belongs on another thread but let's look at our recent loanees and where they're at now.
2023/24
Cundle - Premier League, squad player
Iversen - Premier League, squad player
Haksabanovic - Swedish 1st Div, Europa League
Hoever - Ligue One, on loan from PL
McNally - Championship, first eleven in a better team than us
Travers - Premier League, started today
2022/23
Tuanzebe - Premier League, played in 6 out of 9 so far
Clarke - Premier League, 1st XI
Sarkic - RIP, but established at our level
Sterling - SPL, Europa League
Smallbone - Premier League, squad player
Delap - Premier League, 1st XI
Fosu - League One, 1st XI
Kilkenny - League Two, squad player
2021/22
Ostigaard - Ligue One, and played plenty for Napoli
Moore - retired
Philogene - Premier League, Champions League
Harwood Bellis - Premier League, 1st XI
Sima - Ligue One, on loan from PL
Sawyers - unattached
So of 20 players, excluding one retired and one unattached but is 32, 15 (if not for Sarkic probably 16) of the other 18 are at a higher level than us and most of them playing too. And let's be honest, most of them were criticised and deemed not good enough for Stoke. In fact, probably all of them.
Players like Cannon aren't the problem. Koumas and Phillips will very likely go on to have careers in the PL, Moran probably too. So it wouldn't surprise me if Cannon went on to succeed at a level higher than constant relegation battles in the Championship.
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Post by senojbor on Oct 26, 2024 23:45:14 GMT
This probably belongs on another thread but let's look at our recent loanees and where they're at now. 2023/24 Cundle - Premier League, squad player Iversen - Premier League, squad player Haksabanovic - Swedish 1st Div, Europa League Hoever - Ligue One, on loan from PL McNally - Championship, first eleven in a better team than us Travers - Premier League, started today 2022/23 Tuanzebe - Premier League, played in 6 out of 9 so far Clarke - Premier League, 1st XI Sarkic - RIP, but established at our level Sterling - SPL, Europa League Smallbone - Premier League, squad player Delap - Premier League, 1st XI Fosu - League One, 1st XI Kilkenny - League Two, squad player 2021/22 Ostigaard - Ligue One, and played plenty for Napoli Moore - retired Philogene - Premier League, Champions League Harwood Bellis - Premier League, 1st XI Sima - Ligue One, on loan from PL Sawyers - unattached So of 20 players, excluding one retired and one unattached but is 32, 15 (if not for Sarkic probably 16) of the other 18 are at a higher level than us and most of them playing too. And let's be honest, most of them were criticised and deemed not good enough for Stoke. In fact, probably all of them. Players like Cannon aren't the problem. Koumas and Phillips will very likely go on to have careers in the PL, Moran probably too. So it wouldn't surprise me if Cannon went on to succeed at a level higher than constant relegation battles in the Championship. Good post but Loanees are a big problem at our club. They are not committed enough when they are here. It may further their careers, but that's all. Employ players that their mortgage depends on it |
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Post by leegthestokie90 on Oct 27, 2024 0:35:56 GMT
Ennis got to start against Derby
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 27, 2024 0:54:03 GMT
Anyone know why cannon came off bit of a strange one ‘ cause he was totally ineffective. |
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 27, 2024 0:58:22 GMT
He has Southampton Substitute written all over him at the moment.
That’s his future, earning £25k / wk, not playing regularly.
After 3 of the last 5 games it’s not difficult to see why he’s pulling up no trees.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 27, 2024 0:59:05 GMT
Players like Cannon aren't the problem. Koumas and Phillips will very likely go on to have careers in the PL, Moran probably too. So it wouldn't surprise me if Cannon went on to succeed at a level higher than constant relegation battles in the Championship. Thought that was a great post mate 👍 Does show that too many of us write off players very quicky. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 27, 2024 1:16:48 GMT
Cannon is just the latest striker who fails to do well at Stoke,I bet he's not the last either.
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 27, 2024 5:08:26 GMT
This probably belongs on another thread but let's look at our recent loanees and where they're at now. 2023/24 Cundle - Premier League, squad player Iversen - Premier League, squad player Haksabanovic - Swedish 1st Div, Europa League Hoever - Ligue One, on loan from PL McNally - Championship, first eleven in a better team than us Travers - Premier League, started today 2022/23 Tuanzebe - Premier League, played in 6 out of 9 so far Clarke - Premier League, 1st XI Sarkic - RIP, but established at our level Sterling - SPL, Europa League Smallbone - Premier League, squad player Delap - Premier League, 1st XI Fosu - League One, 1st XI Kilkenny - League Two, squad player 2021/22 Ostigaard - Ligue One, and played plenty for Napoli Moore - retired Philogene - Premier League, Champions League Harwood Bellis - Premier League, 1st XI Sima - Ligue One, on loan from PL Sawyers - unattached So of 20 players, excluding one retired and one unattached but is 32, 15 (if not for Sarkic probably 16) of the other 18 are at a higher level than us and most of them playing too. And let's be honest, most of them were criticised and deemed not good enough for Stoke. In fact, probably all of them. Players like Cannon aren't the problem. Koumas and Phillips will very likely go on to have careers in the PL, Moran probably too. So it wouldn't surprise me if Cannon went on to succeed at a level higher than constant relegation battles in the Championship. Good post but Loanees are a big problem at our club. They are not committed enough when they are here. It may further their careers, but that's all. Employ players that their mortgage depends on it I get the feeling that Cannon is not enjoying his time here. He always seems a bit alone on training videos and or on the pitch, whether from choice you can't tell. I'm not sure he's Pelachs ideal forward either so I think we might gladly let him go back in January. The worrying thing for me is that despite this Tezgel is getting no minutes |
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Post by richyrich on Oct 27, 2024 5:17:30 GMT
Don’t think we’ve turned him shit. He just is shit. He’s got a fat arse, can’t run, not brave, zero threat
This one is on recruitment. He’s not a good footballer, quite the opposite
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Post by idle on Oct 27, 2024 6:58:08 GMT
This probably belongs on another thread but let's look at our recent loanees and where they're at now. 2023/24 Cundle - Premier League, squad player Iversen - Premier League, squad player Haksabanovic - Swedish 1st Div, Europa League Hoever - Ligue One, on loan from PL McNally - Championship, first eleven in a better team than us Travers - Premier League, started today 2022/23 Tuanzebe - Premier League, played in 6 out of 9 so far Clarke - Premier League, 1st XI Sarkic - RIP, but established at our level Sterling - SPL, Europa League Smallbone - Premier League, squad player Delap - Premier League, 1st XI Fosu - League One, 1st XI Kilkenny - League Two, squad player 2021/22 Ostigaard - Ligue One, and played plenty for Napoli Moore - retired Philogene - Premier League, Champions League Harwood Bellis - Premier League, 1st XI Sima - Ligue One, on loan from PL Sawyers - unattached So of 20 players, excluding one retired and one unattached but is 32, 15 (if not for Sarkic probably 16) of the other 18 are at a higher level than us and most of them playing too. And let's be honest, most of them were criticised and deemed not good enough for Stoke. In fact, probably all of them. Players like Cannon aren't the problem. Koumas and Phillips will very likely go on to have careers in the PL, Moran probably too. So it wouldn't surprise me if Cannon went on to succeed at a level higher than constant relegation battles in the Championship. Good post but Loanees are a big problem at our club. They are not committed enough when they are here. It may further their careers, but that's all. Employ players that their mortgage depends on it Why do people think loanees are less commited than transferred players? If anything, they still have something to prove. Our own players seem to sit on their arses while they're paid several thousand pounds a week (that's a bit unfair on most, but we do have them). You see it well when their contracts are on the way out, they actually put the work in! The problem is the way contracts work. The only way "our" players won't get paid to pay their mortgages is if we go bankrupt in a big way. Player power have gotten so big they don't have to do more than show up for training. Contracts used to have a significant portion of performance based pay. But since they get paid so well now, they don't really need it. Even JT makes more in a week than average people make in two months! |
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