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Post by Gods on Nov 1, 2024 23:12:12 GMT
Tories ahead in the polls.
Labour won't get another go.
If they want to soak the scrimpers and savers of this country they need to do it in the next 4 years.
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Post by wannabee on Nov 1, 2024 23:26:07 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 1, 2024 23:59:14 GMT
Tories ahead in the polls. Labour won't get another go. If they want to soak the scrimpers and savers of this country they need to do it in the next 4 years. After the last election, seasoned political commentators were (quite legitimately) telling us that it would be at least ten years before Labour could even THINK about overturning such a massive majority. And yet here we are ... |
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Post by Gods on Nov 2, 2024 6:13:01 GMT
Tories ahead in the polls. Labour won't get another go. If they want to soak the scrimpers and savers of this country they need to do it in the next 4 years. After the last election, seasoned political commentators were (quite legitimately) telling us that it would be at least ten years before Labour could even THINK about overturning such a massive majority. And yet here we are ... True, Paul. Labour have a huge majority but without checking they got a smaller percentage of the vote than Corbyn's first attempt against Teresa May. The Tories haemorrhaged votes to Reform and to all the other parties and some stayed at home. Some of the less trumpeted measures in the budget were pretty brutal for savers and many will have big regrets now. Take putting inheritance tax (IHT) on pension savings for non final salary schemes which most people outside of the public sector have now. You will land your beneficiaries with a £400,000 tax bill if you die with a £1m savings pot. You could argue about whether that's fair or not but the point is people didn't save on the basis nearly half of it would be going back to the government. It was quite a stunt which has left several of my pals shaken. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 2, 2024 9:58:20 GMT
11am. Results are in…
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2024 10:08:57 GMT
After the last election, seasoned political commentators were (quite legitimately) telling us that it would be at least ten years before Labour could even THINK about overturning such a massive majority. And yet here we are ... True, Paul. Labour have a huge majority but without checking they got a smaller percentage of the vote than Corbyn's first attempt against Teresa May. The Tories haemorrhaged votes to Reform and to all the other parties and some stayed at home. Some of the less trumpeted measures in the budget were pretty brutal for savers and many will have big regrets now. Take putting inheritance tax (IHT) on pension savings for non final salary schemes which most people outside of the public sector have now. You will land your beneficiaries with a £400,000 tax bill if you die with a £1m savings pot. You could argue about whether that's fair or not but the point is people didn't save on the basis nearly half of it would be going back to the government. It was quite a stunt which has left several of my pals shaken. The Liberals were the bigger winners of disaffected Tories,not Reform |
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 2, 2024 10:50:28 GMT
True, Paul. Labour have a huge majority but without checking they got a smaller percentage of the vote than Corbyn's first attempt against Teresa May. The Tories haemorrhaged votes to Reform and to all the other parties and some stayed at home. Some of the less trumpeted measures in the budget were pretty brutal for savers and many will have big regrets now. Take putting inheritance tax (IHT) on pension savings for non final salary schemes which most people outside of the public sector have now. You will land your beneficiaries with a £400,000 tax bill if you die with a £1m savings pot. You could argue about whether that's fair or not but the point is people didn't save on the basis nearly half of it would be going back to the government. It was quite a stunt which has left several of my pals shaken. The Liberals were the bigger winners of disaffected Tories,not Reform And I cannot see many moving back for a party led by Jendrick or Badenoch. |
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Post by questionable on Nov 2, 2024 11:18:56 GMT
I soon as she said “Honesty” I turned it off
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 11:19:23 GMT
They’ve actually appointed that absolutely rancid woman?
She’s fucking vile. Wow.
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Post by ian57 on Nov 2, 2024 11:26:09 GMT
An arrogant Nigerian woman who is just another in a long line of wef puppets.
She will not reunite the party.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Nov 2, 2024 11:29:00 GMT
So the conservatives have had three female prime ministers, one prime minister of south Asian heritage, and now a female of African decent. Meanwhile the party of diversity keep electing white blokes. No wonder the Labour movement is known as a Boys Club.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 2, 2024 11:33:08 GMT
So the conservatives have had three female prime ministers, one prime minister of south Asian heritage, and now a female of African decent. Meanwhile the party of diversity keep electing white blokes. No wonder the Labour movement is known as a Boys Club. That is of course a very superficial way of measuring diversity or equality as you would probably accept. |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 2, 2024 11:36:07 GMT
Another 'new start'!
Like Stoke City managers.
it's 'new' this and 'new' that in politics while it's basically the same old story.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 2, 2024 11:36:35 GMT
So the conservatives have had three female prime ministers, one prime minister of south Asian heritage, and now a female of African decent. Meanwhile the party of diversity keep electing white blokes. No wonder the Labour movement is known as a Boys Club. Yes that is interesting. Labour will of course be accused of positive discrimination when their next leader is a woman. So they can’t win. Badenoch is very regressive and vehemently opposed to equality for women. She doesn’t even believe discrimination exists. She actually briefed her department as Trade secretary to never use the word “discrimination” in any paper she is to see (even though discrimination in trade is part of lots of the applicable laws!). She also doesn’t believe schools or workplaces should provide any special treatment for neurodiversity. She is perhaps the most awful person elected to lead one of the major political parties. Hopefully she fails miserably and her brand of hatred doesn’t become more mainsteam. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 2, 2024 12:29:06 GMT
Interesting choice. They've managed to alienate the racists on the right and the liberals in the centre ground. Pretty niche demographic.
The relationship with Reform is going to be key. Do a deal and they will beat Starmer's Labour Party hands down (unless Labour adopt PR and diva deal with the Lib Dems and The Greens), take them on and it will split the right wing vote and give an unpopular Labour Party a chance. Interesting times.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 2, 2024 12:30:27 GMT
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Post by Gawa on Nov 2, 2024 12:41:38 GMT
An arrogant Nigerian woman who is just another in a long line of wef puppets. She will not reunite the party. Daughter of a Nigerian GP and professor. Seems to be a bit of a trend when you look at Braverman, Patel, Sunak, Zahawi, Kemi etc.. in the tories. All descendants of immigrants but the key difference being that they're all descendants of wealthy immigrants. Nearly as if the tories don't actually have a problem with immigration... they've just got an issue with poor people. |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 2, 2024 14:22:16 GMT
After the last election, seasoned political commentators were (quite legitimately) telling us that it would be at least ten years before Labour could even THINK about overturning such a massive majority. And yet here we are ... True, Paul. Labour have a huge majority but without checking they got a smaller percentage of the vote than Corbyn's first attempt against Teresa May. The Tories haemorrhaged votes to Reform and to all the other parties and some stayed at home. Some of the less trumpeted measures in the budget were pretty brutal for savers and many will have big regrets now. Take putting inheritance tax (IHT) on pension savings for non final salary schemes which most people outside of the public sector have now. You will land your beneficiaries with a £400,000 tax bill if you die with a £1m savings pot. You could argue about whether that's fair or not but the point is people didn't save on the basis nearly half of it would be going back to the government. It was quite a stunt which has left several of my pals shaken. I'm sure you know that it's not quite as straightforward as you describe The changes do not become effective until April 2027 and there is currently a consultation process taking place So the final details won't be known until at least January 2025 The changes in no way affect a Spouse who will pay no IHT Each Estate will also receive the £325K nil rate band rising to £500K if it includes a dwelling. The same arrangements as for Family Farms, its called Leveling Up. You must hang around with some wealthy pals because currently only 4.4% of Estates are subject to IHT or about 28,000 Estates, it it is estimated that the new arrangements will bring about 10,,500 more Estates into IHT raising about £1.5Bn so 95% of people are not at all affected Pre Budget the mantra was Tax the Wealthy, after Budget but we didn't mean those Wealthy people Cry me a river. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 2, 2024 15:12:23 GMT
After the last election, seasoned political commentators were (quite legitimately) telling us that it would be at least ten years before Labour could even THINK about overturning such a massive majority. And yet here we are ... True, Paul. Labour have a huge majority but without checking they got a smaller percentage of the vote than Corbyn's first attempt against Teresa May. The Tories haemorrhaged votes to Reform and to all the other parties and some stayed at home. Some of the less trumpeted measures in the budget were pretty brutal for savers and many will have big regrets now. Take putting inheritance tax (IHT) on pension savings for non final salary schemes which most people outside of the public sector have now. You will land your beneficiaries with a £400,000 tax bill if you die with a £1m savings pot. You could argue about whether that's fair or not but the point is people didn't save on the basis nearly half of it would be going back to the government. It was quite a stunt which has left several of my pals shaken. If that’s what you think, I strongly recommend you take legal advice from a private client lawyer Who can point out where you are wrong and help plan your affairs accordingly. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2024 15:51:08 GMT
Good news for Labour
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 2, 2024 16:34:47 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2024 16:55:52 GMT
The Liberals were the bigger winners of disaffected Tories,not Reform And I cannot see many moving back for a party led by Jendrick or Badenoch. I'm bemused by their decision to move even further to the right, political suicide Liberals are going to have step up and provide some kind of genuine opposition to Labour because Tories are dead ducks |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 2, 2024 17:24:57 GMT
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Post by stokeson on Nov 2, 2024 17:31:54 GMT
So The Babadook v Farage for Bagers vote next time. A Proper rightwing nutjob fest. I love it....
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 2, 2024 17:46:18 GMT
I like what she says but she's alone in a party of woke, centrist Tories with a track record of failing the British people. I hope Nige and Kemi come up with a decent plan for the next election to bring this nation over to its rightful place on the libertarian right.
No one likes Starmer. No one wants Starmer. But why should Brits trust Tories again?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 2, 2024 17:50:55 GMT
I like what she says but she's alone in a party of woke, centrist Tories with a track record of failing the British people. I hope Nige and Kemi come up with a decent plan for the next election to bring this nation over to its rightful place on the libertarian right. No one likes Starmer. No one wants Starmer. But why should Brits trust Tories again? 100% |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 2, 2024 17:51:53 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 2, 2024 17:52:03 GMT
So The Babadook v Farage for Bagers vote next time. A Proper rightwing nutjob fest. I love it.... No contest who gets my vote but a lot can happen in politics. Apparently….. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 2, 2024 17:52:50 GMT
I like what she says but she's alone in a party of woke, centrist Tories with a track record of failing the British people. I hope Nige and Kemi come up with a decent plan for the next election to bring this nation over to its rightful place on the libertarian right. No one likes Starmer. No one wants Starmer. But why should Brits trust Tories again? I thought you may like her. She’s a big de Santis fan apparently. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 2, 2024 17:53:15 GMT
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