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Post by sealion100 on Oct 19, 2024 18:33:14 GMT
Positives: good point
: finished the game the strongest side
: Viktor
Negatives: tackling
Some of our players need to ask Santa for a pair of bollocks for
XMAS !!
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Post by jokker on Oct 19, 2024 18:58:54 GMT
I think he must rest him. I took a similar journey last month, from Japan, and I was numb for days. Playing Bae would be like playing an unfit player, which could cause damage to his physique. did you fly first class? If he wants to be a top player he needs to get used to it. Although i'd be up for dropping him for a game anyway Not this time, but I have on other similar flights from Oz. Anyway he was picked and he walked off injury free, so let's hope he stays that way. I don't think he "needs to" if he wants to be a top player. Top clubs will rest their best players, if they return with fatigue or minor worries. What he needs is to play for a top club... |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 19, 2024 19:08:43 GMT
Much better 2nd half but still not sure where we are going as a team, we’re not a possession based team, not a counter attack team and I can’t discern what we really are. For the first time in a long while we had a plan. Willing to mix going long as we have 2 up with playing out. Even under pressure first half we had a passing shape to move from back to front. Burger and Moran were able to get into space and Bar and Million found space as inside forwards. Our defensive shape was also much better from the front. Long way to go but it feels like we might have a real coach for the first time in a while. Certainly welcome to see us be the better team second half and fitter. As someone mentioned earlier, did the halftime work well, same at Swans and came out better side Nice change from Neil who seems to destroy us at half time after a decent 45 and chuck it all away |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 19, 2024 19:24:47 GMT
Seen their goal again what a poor challemge from burgur accepting that Wilmot started it all .Good point but still feel it’s all about 50 points given the lack of physicality and inevitable on going absence of Gallagher and Lawal , Cannon is a bit of a disappointment but it’s startling to think we are one of his hamstrings away from being forced to rely on that bench for a number of games
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Post by Block 26 on Oct 19, 2024 19:57:05 GMT
I know that I’m late to the party here but here is my view…
I thought we were very poor first half & we’re lucky not to be 2 or 3 down.
2nd half, I thought that we just edged it but we were poor in decision making in the final third. I honestly didn’t watch a lot of the second half as I was too busy chatting to those around me. (The first half made me loose complete interest in the game)
I’ll take the point all day long but, is Pelach the man to take us forward? It’s a no from me unfortunately. SS is a better coach than him & I wasn’t the biggest fan of his.
On today’s showing it’ll be years until we’re challenging for top half nevermind promotion.
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Post by scfc1863 on Oct 19, 2024 20:20:18 GMT
I know that I’m late to the party here but here is my view… I thought we were very poor first half & we’re lucky not to be 2 or 3 down. 2nd half, I thought that we just edged it but we were poor in decision making in the final third. I honestly didn’t watch a lot of the second half as I was too busy chatting to those around me. (The first half made me loose complete interest in the game) I’ll take the point all day long but, is Pelach the man to take us forward? It’s a no from me unfortunately. SS is a better coach than him & I wasn’t the biggest fan of his. On today’s showing it’ll be years until we’re challenging for top half nevermind promotion. So in your final paragraph you state that it’ll be years until we’re challenging for the top half, yet in your third paragraph you state that you didn’t watch a lot of the second half due to chatting with your mates…. Stunning fella, stunning…. |
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Post by george2again on Oct 19, 2024 20:28:38 GMT
I know that I’m late to the party here but here is my view… I thought we were very poor first half & we’re lucky not to be 2 or 3 down. 2nd half, I thought that we just edged it but we were poor in decision making in the final third. I honestly didn’t watch a lot of the second half as I was too busy chatting to those around me. (The first half made me loose complete interest in the game) I’ll take the point all day long but, is Pelach the man to take us forward? It’s a no from me unfortunately. SS is a better coach than him & I wasn’t the biggest fan of his. On today’s showing it’ll be years until we’re challenging for top half nevermind promotion. I agree with most of that. Pelach when interviewed said our press was good, where I thought it was awful all day in all areas. Koumas apart. Felt like he was telling them to give them possession to be honest. Our movement off the ball is appalling. Simpley abysmal. Worst part of our game by a mile. Got no better in the last month. Norwich on the other hand were excellent at it and we saw how much space it created. We pass and stand still they passed and moved and caused us big problems . Frustrating to say the least.Bae awful two games in a row. |
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Post by Block 26 on Oct 19, 2024 20:35:37 GMT
I know that I’m late to the party here but here is my view… I thought we were very poor first half & we’re lucky not to be 2 or 3 down. 2nd half, I thought that we just edged it but we were poor in decision making in the final third. I honestly didn’t watch a lot of the second half as I was too busy chatting to those around me. (The first half made me loose complete interest in the game) I’ll take the point all day long but, is Pelach the man to take us forward? It’s a no from me unfortunately. SS is a better coach than him & I wasn’t the biggest fan of his. On today’s showing it’ll be years until we’re challenging for top half nevermind promotion. So in your final paragraph you state that it’ll be years until we’re challenging for the top half, yet in your third paragraph you state that you didn’t watch a lot of the second half due to chatting with your mates…. Stunning fella, stunning…. Exactly what you said, what is stunning about it? |
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Post by everyoneneedsawhelan on Oct 19, 2024 20:38:08 GMT
I know that I’m late to the party here but here is my view… I thought we were very poor first half & we’re lucky not to be 2 or 3 down. 2nd half, I thought that we just edged it but we were poor in decision making in the final third. I honestly didn’t watch a lot of the second half as I was too busy chatting to those around me. (The first half made me loose complete interest in the game) I’ll take the point all day long but, is Pelach the man to take us forward? It’s a no from me unfortunately. SS is a better coach than him & I wasn’t the biggest fan of his. On today’s showing it’ll be years until we’re challenging for top half nevermind promotion. we lost 3-0 to Norwich at home under SS… |
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Post by Block 26 on Oct 19, 2024 20:44:52 GMT
I know that I’m late to the party here but here is my view… I thought we were very poor first half & we’re lucky not to be 2 or 3 down. 2nd half, I thought that we just edged it but we were poor in decision making in the final third. I honestly didn’t watch a lot of the second half as I was too busy chatting to those around me. (The first half made me loose complete interest in the game) I’ll take the point all day long but, is Pelach the man to take us forward? It’s a no from me unfortunately. SS is a better coach than him & I wasn’t the biggest fan of his. On today’s showing it’ll be years until we’re challenging for top half nevermind promotion. we lost 3-0 to Norwich at home under SS… We were tactically outclassed that day, which their manager predicted a few days before the game. imo it gave SS a bit of a lesson. Today, had Norwich put their chances away it was game over. Personally I cannot see Pelach taking us anywhere given what I’ve seen so far. With SS you’d get the odd really poor performance but there was a little direction there to follow. The bottom line is mate there Norwich will be gutted travelling home today with a point. They bossed the first half & really should have had the game wrapped up. It was really poor on our behalf. |
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Post by Block 26 on Oct 19, 2024 20:45:37 GMT
we lost 3-0 to Norwich at home under SS… We were tactically outclassed that day, which their manager predicted a few days before the game. imo it gave SS a bit of a lesson. Today, had Norwich put their chances away it was game over. Personally I cannot see Pelach taking us anywhere given what I’ve seen so far. With SS you’d get the odd really poor performance but there was a little direction there to follow. The bottom line is mate Norwich will be gutted travelling home today with a point. They bossed the first half & really should have had the game wrapped up. It was really poor on our behalf. |
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Post by stokecitydom on Oct 19, 2024 20:58:50 GMT
I know that I’m late to the party here but here is my view… I thought we were very poor first half & we’re lucky not to be 2 or 3 down. 2nd half, I thought that we just edged it but we were poor in decision making in the final third. I honestly didn’t watch a lot of the second half as I was too busy chatting to those around me. (The first half made me loose complete interest in the game) I’ll take the point all day long but, is Pelach the man to take us forward? It’s a no from me unfortunately. SS is a better coach than him & I wasn’t the biggest fan of his. On today’s showing it’ll be years until we’re challenging for top half nevermind promotion. I thought we were comfortably the better team for the first 20 minutes, then we lost all control and became abit of a shambles for the next 25 minutes until we equalised. Even in that time we were not really cut open, we were our own worst enemies and gave them a couple of decent opportunities which they should’ve scored from. Second half (which I watched all of it), I thought we edged it and on another day, we’d have taken the 3 points. Overall it was a decent result against a team that have put together some good results in the past 5/6 games. At least we seem to be competing, which can’t be said for a good percentage of the games under Schumacher. It’s quite clear that the squad is short of quality in certain areas, but the manager has done a decent job in the last 3 games & we’ve had a decent points return. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Oct 19, 2024 21:13:34 GMT
I know that I’m late to the party here but here is my view… I thought we were very poor first half & we’re lucky not to be 2 or 3 down. 2nd half, I thought that we just edged it but we were poor in decision making in the final third. I honestly didn’t watch a lot of the second half as I was too busy chatting to those around me. (The first half made me loose complete interest in the game) I’ll take the point all day long but, is Pelach the man to take us forward? It’s a no from me unfortunately. SS is a better coach than him & I wasn’t the biggest fan of his. On today’s showing it’ll be years until we’re challenging for top half nevermind promotion. I thought we were comfortably the better team for the first 20 minutes, then we lost all control and became abit of a shambles for the next 25 minutes until we equalised. Even in that time we were not really cut open, we were our own worst enemies and gave them a couple of decent opportunities which they should’ve scored from. Second half (which I watched all of it), I thought we edged it and on another day, we’d have taken the 3 points. Overall it was a decent result against a team that have put together some good results in the past 5/6 games. At least we seem to be competing, which can’t be said for a good percentage of the games under Schumacher. It’s quite clear that the squad is short of quality in certain areas, but the manager has done a decent job in the last 3 games & we’ve had a decent points return. This⬆️ |
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Post by fca47 on Oct 19, 2024 22:36:38 GMT
Can't believe the negativity about the game. We started well but Norwich got control of the midfield after about 15 minutes. Their goal came from a sloppy clearance from our keeper. Cannon missed a sitter, and we then scored a great goal. We then controlled most of the second half, despite a lengthy list of injuries. I thought the game was encouraging, and you can see the players now seem to know what they are trying to do, even though it didn't always come off
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Post by everyoneneedsawhelan on Oct 19, 2024 22:38:38 GMT
we lost 3-0 to Norwich at home under SS… We were tactically outclassed that day, which their manager predicted a few days before the game. imo it gave SS a bit of a lesson. Today, had Norwich put their chances away it was game over. Personally I cannot see Pelach taking us anywhere given what I’ve seen so far. With SS you’d get the odd really poor performance but there was a little direction there to follow. The bottom line is mate there Norwich will be gutted travelling home today with a point. They bossed the first half & really should have had the game wrapped up. It was really poor on our behalf. yeah, we were tactically outclassed by Norwich under him, and today Pelach was not. You’re living in the past mate, I didn’t mind Schumacher but the ongoing comparisons to him are really boring. re Norwich fans - one look at their forums will tell you they are pretty content with the point. Both teams had their chances and it was a fair draw |
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 20, 2024 4:49:17 GMT
I think he's great in so many ways. Just that when he's RW on a 4-4-2 he's missing opportunities to really torment the opposition by only cutting in. He must be easy to mark just show him the outside I'm sure that's what they were doing! Same v Swansea He's so good he still managed to score... Just think he could really easily be even more dangerousm |
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Post by hotpot on Oct 20, 2024 5:21:34 GMT
Great point.
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Post by LphPotter on Oct 20, 2024 5:45:34 GMT
I think he's great in so many ways. Just that when he's RW on a 4-4-2 he's missing opportunities to really torment the opposition by only cutting in. He must be easy to mark just show him the outside True, just like Salah… |
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Post by george2again on Oct 20, 2024 5:56:30 GMT
Can't believe the negativity about the game. We started well but Norwich got control of the midfield after about 15 minutes. Their goal came from a sloppy clearance from our keeper. Cannon missed a sitter, and we then scored a great goal. We then controlled most of the second half, despite a lengthy list of injuries. I thought the game was encouraging, and you can see the players now seem to know what they are trying to do, even though it didn't always come off Is it just me or does no one else see the lack of movement off the ball? So few options when passing. We are awful at it. |
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Oct 20, 2024 6:12:52 GMT
The midfield is definitely not right seemed better second half though .
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Post by LphPotter on Oct 20, 2024 6:27:19 GMT
Can't believe the negativity about the game. We started well but Norwich got control of the midfield after about 15 minutes. Their goal came from a sloppy clearance from our keeper. Cannon missed a sitter, and we then scored a great goal. We then controlled most of the second half, despite a lengthy list of injuries. I thought the game was encouraging, and you can see the players now seem to know what they are trying to do, even though it didn't always come off Is it just me or does no one else see the lack of movement off the ball? So few options when passing. We are awful at it. Second half the movement, mainly on the left and involving Junho, was fantastic. Midfielders have got to give more options on the whole though but I think it’s definitely getting better. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 20, 2024 8:30:47 GMT
Would have taken a point before the game after last season, but I don’t think we played particularly well yesterday. Certainly better second half than first half but both sides looked like they couldn’t wait to give it away. Very sloppy game. We turned the ball over well and looked a threat until it mattered. The final ball was severely lacking.
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Post by meirman61 on Oct 20, 2024 10:32:01 GMT
Can't believe the negativity about the game. We started well but Norwich got control of the midfield after about 15 minutes. Their goal came from a sloppy clearance from our keeper. Cannon missed a sitter, and we then scored a great goal. We then controlled most of the second half, despite a lengthy list of injuries. I thought the game was encouraging, and you can see the players now seem to know what they are trying to do, even though it didn't always come off Is it just me or does no one else see the lack of movement off the ball? So few options when passing. We are awful at it. Movement it takes 5 minutes to take a throw in because of lack of movement,if we are winning games there's going to be a lot of bookings because Refs will deem it as time wasting.. |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 20, 2024 13:49:58 GMT
Where was Sol yesterday?
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Post by stokiespark on Oct 20, 2024 19:16:33 GMT
Can't believe the negativity about the game. We started well but Norwich got control of the midfield after about 15 minutes. Their goal came from a sloppy clearance from our keeper. Cannon missed a sitter, and we then scored a great goal. We then controlled most of the second half, despite a lengthy list of injuries. I thought the game was encouraging, and you can see the players now seem to know what they are trying to do, even though it didn't always come off not just me that thought it was a poor clearance then 👍🏻 |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 20, 2024 20:22:45 GMT
Does seem like he’s slipped back again not making the bench |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 20, 2024 20:43:02 GMT
Does seem like he’s slipped back again not making the bench Bloody hope not |
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Post by stokie1947 on Oct 21, 2024 8:22:09 GMT
i think you will have egg on your face with that comment but time will tell
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Post by somersetpotter on Oct 21, 2024 8:52:48 GMT
some right muppets on this thread. Norwich have been spanking teams left right and centre over the past few games and we could have walked away with 3 points in a game where the opposite team weren't having an off day (basically all our good results under Schumacher were a result of the other team playing shite).
You can clearly see an identity with how we're playing and that's only going to get better as the team get used to the system.
Also it's a fucking joke that the previous management teams allowed the team to be so unfit, major difference in the last 20 mins of this game and the Swansea game to anything I've seen from us in years.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Oct 21, 2024 9:35:16 GMT
I thought first half Norwich looked the best side we have played so far. There was a bit of luck for their goal, there were plenty of tackles going in but if you watch the last one it deflected off a stoke player straight to their man.
Ps Actually hit a Norwich player on the back/shoulder
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