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Post by mrnovember on Nov 30, 2024 8:52:15 GMT
I think it's obvious that the recruitment team have let us down this year, yes Vik is the bargain of the century and cannon will score goals but the rest of them are really no better what what left and to be honest probably worse than whet left Tatsuki Seko would like a quiet word outside. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 30, 2024 8:56:59 GMT
I think it's obvious that the recruitment team have let us down this year, yes Vik is the bargain of the century and cannon will score goals but the rest of them are really no better what what left and to be honest probably worse than whet left Tatsuki Seko would like a quiet word outside. If only to say why wont anyone let me take a free kick , didnt anyone see the clip s, if that bloke vidigal takes another one i am off back to japan |
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Post by strettonstokie on Nov 30, 2024 8:57:07 GMT
I think it's obvious that the recruitment team have let us down this year, yes Vik is the bargain of the century and cannon will score goals but the rest of them are really no better what what left and to be honest probably worse than whet left Tatsuki Seko would like a quiet word outside. Don't get me wrong the lad has done decent enough in the limited chances he's had and could improve much more, but is he really any better than Laurent who the Burnley fans love? The idea I thought was to improve in each window? |
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Post by loosestools on Nov 30, 2024 9:02:16 GMT
Tatsuki Seko would like a quiet word outside. Don't get me wrong the lad has done decent enough in the limited chances he's had and could improve much more, but is he really any better than Laurent who the Burnley fans love? The idea I thought was to improve in each window? Yes he is. |
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Post by thornestein on Nov 30, 2024 9:03:21 GMT
You wanted Cartwright out so, as a ‘man of principle’, I assume you withdrew all support for the club during his time as Technical Director? I quite rightly showed my disdain for Cartwright, his performance as Technical Director, his ties to an agency and ex employer and his part in the downfall in Stoke City. It was balanced and factual over a considerable period of time. Perhaps you have a different glorious reflection of his tenure There’s a significant difference if you wish to compare personal sniping v factual non performance you’re basically saying that you’re entitled to an opinion but Bacon isn’t 🤣😂 what a muppet |
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Post by strettonstokie on Nov 30, 2024 9:05:34 GMT
Don't get me wrong the lad has done decent enough in the limited chances he's had and could improve much more, but is he really any better than Laurent who the Burnley fans love? The idea I thought was to improve in each window? Yes he is. I guess we might find out today |
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Post by loosestools on Nov 30, 2024 9:10:20 GMT
I guess we might find out today Just off to purchase a humble pie - just in case I may need to eat it later  |
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Post by headsgoup on Nov 30, 2024 9:16:14 GMT
Its like groundhog day every fkn season/every fkn manager. They all talk about the 'hard press'. moving the ball quick 'between the lines', forward thinking football - I have yet to see any of this. It seems as though 90% of teams nowadays are completely obssessed with Guardiola football. Even this type of football is tedious to watch at times (even when Man City are playing it). Its all well and good passing the ball between the CBs and keepers if their is some fwd movement/intent - we cant play it this way as most of our team are awful with the ball at their feet and cant play in confined spaces that the opposition create. We are so easy to play against, teams know we'll simply pass it around the back for 10mins and eventually lump it or lose it to the opposition (they dont even need to press that hard either as we will inevitably play a stray pass. Gibson/Wilmot/Tchamadeau all guilty last night. Burger is a shadow of the player we thought we'd signed, slow/lethargic no fwd mvmnt. Seko/Bae are the only players who seem to want to play on the front foot, Bae will inevitably make a bad final pass too, but i'll let him off as he could be a very good player in the right team. Seko has to start every game when fit. And if we had a fit Stevens then he has to start every game (never happening though). I'd be very surprised if we arent bottom 4 at the end of December. Gallagher and Lawal cant come back into the side soon enough (and I've never even watched Lawal but hes big and strong and rather him in MF than Burger). I don't honestly think that's our style. We're a counter attacking outfit that takes short goal kicks. Over-coached, too. The bit that really got me was when, with seconds to go against Preston, we stroked it along the back line rather than get it into the mixer. It's like they've been told 'no through balls until the fifth pass, or it's straight to bed without any chayze oatcakes'. Maddening. I'm not against Pelach yet, but the stats related to chances created/given away paint a picture of a man riding his luck. The next three games are judgement time, for me. Was it all good fortune, Viktor Johansson and poor opposition, or is there something there? |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 30, 2024 9:34:51 GMT
I think it's obvious that the recruitment team have let us down this year, yes Vik is the bargain of the century and cannon will score goals but the rest of them are really no better what what left and to be honest probably worse than whet left We had a very good end to last season. A decent recruitment team would have been busting a gut to get the players to help the HC recreate that but instead JW had his own priorities knowing all along that the HC wouldn’t be in post any longer than he could help. He’s now bought in a HC with a don’t lose mentality and a very low win percentage throughout his career as a HC and guess what the football is awful to watch who would have expected it?? |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 30, 2024 9:38:44 GMT
I think it's obvious that the recruitment team have let us down this year, yes Vik is the bargain of the century and cannon will score goals but the rest of them are really no better what what left and to be honest probably worse than whet left Tatsuki Seko would like a quiet word outside. I’m not sure it would be in Mr Seko’s best interests to start offering people outside. |
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Post by mrnovember on Nov 30, 2024 9:58:59 GMT
Tatsuki Seko would like a quiet word outside. Don't get me wrong the lad has done decent enough in the limited chances he's had and could improve much more, but is he really any better than Laurent who the Burnley fans love? The idea I thought was to improve in each window? Josh Laurent was rotten for us, regardless of how the Burnley fans have taken to him. To my simple mind, Seko was signed to upgrade on Thompson and Pearson. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 30, 2024 10:05:34 GMT
Don't get me wrong the lad has done decent enough in the limited chances he's had and could improve much more, but is he really any better than Laurent who the Burnley fans love? The idea I thought was to improve in each window? Josh Laurent was rotten for us, regardless of how the Burnley fans have taken to him. To my simple mind, Seko was signed to upgrade on Thompson and Pearson. Strange I thought that was what Lawal was meant to be for ?? |
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Post by strettonstokie on Nov 30, 2024 10:19:53 GMT
I think it's obvious that the recruitment team have let us down this year, yes Vik is the bargain of the century and cannon will score goals but the rest of them are really no better what what left and to be honest probably worse than whet left We had a very good end to last season. A decent recruitment team would have been busting a gut to get the players to help the HC recreate that but instead JW had his own priorities knowing all along that the HC wouldn’t be in post any longer than he could help. He’s now bought in a HC with a don’t lose mentality and a very low win percentage throughout his career as a HC and guess what the football is awful to watch who would have expected it?? I agree with everything apart from the awful football, I'm personally enjoying the attacking phase of our play much more that what I did under SS. At least we look like scoring most games |
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Post by thornestein on Nov 30, 2024 10:21:45 GMT
Josh Laurent was rotten for us, regardless of how the Burnley fans have taken to him. To my simple mind, Seko was signed to upgrade on Thompson and Pearson. Strange I thought that was what Lawal was meant to be for ?? Lawal see himself as further forward in midfield than a DM |
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2024 10:21:58 GMT
Josh Laurent was rotten for us, regardless of how the Burnley fans have taken to him. To my simple mind, Seko was signed to upgrade on Thompson and Pearson. Strange I thought that was what Lawal was meant to be for ?? Strange view 2 players as upgrades on 2 players, how weird |
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Post by strettonstokie on Nov 30, 2024 10:22:05 GMT
Don't get me wrong the lad has done decent enough in the limited chances he's had and could improve much more, but is he really any better than Laurent who the Burnley fans love? The idea I thought was to improve in each window? Josh Laurent was rotten for us, regardless of how the Burnley fans have taken to him. To my simple mind, Seko was signed to upgrade on Thompson and Pearson. Seko was very much a last option, he was over in a hotel for 2 weeks before he signed. Now that could be because we were looking to offload some CM or because we wanted cundle first, and then it took him an age to start getting picked |
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Post by strettonstokie on Nov 30, 2024 10:22:42 GMT
Strange I thought that was what Lawal was meant to be for ?? Lawal see himself as further forward in midfield than a DM Which is what we have an abundance of, we need that beast of a DM still and that would transform this team |
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2024 10:23:19 GMT
Josh Laurent was rotten for us, regardless of how the Burnley fans have taken to him. To my simple mind, Seko was signed to upgrade on Thompson and Pearson. Seko was very much a last option, he was over in a hotel for 2 weeks before he signed. Now that could be because we were looking to offload some CM or because we wanted cundle first, and then it took him an age to start getting picked We had to offload Laurent and Baker first We signed Moran instead of Cundle |
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Post by strettonstokie on Nov 30, 2024 10:26:33 GMT
Seko was very much a last option, he was over in a hotel for 2 weeks before he signed. Now that could be because we were looking to offload some CM or because we wanted cundle first, and then it took him an age to start getting picked We had to offload Laurent and Baker first We signed Moran instead of Cundle Moran was already here before deadline day when we were still trying to sign cundle. Getting these unknown players in over more experienced players looking back now is even more idiotic that I remembered at the time |
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2024 10:28:58 GMT
We had to offload Laurent and Baker first We signed Moran instead of Cundle Moran was already here before deadline day when we were still trying to sign cundle. Getting these unknown players in over more experienced players looking back now is even more idiotic that I remembered at the time Is it? Much rather watch Moran than Laurent myself |
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Post by mrnovember on Nov 30, 2024 10:31:42 GMT
Moran was already here before deadline day when we were still trying to sign cundle. Getting these unknown players in over more experienced players looking back now is even more idiotic that I remembered at the time Is it? Much rather watch Moran than Laurent myself I'd rather watch Mrs Brown's Boys: The Musical than Josh Laurent. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 30, 2024 10:40:37 GMT
Lawal see himself as further forward in midfield than a DM Which is what we have an abundance of, we need that beast of a DM still and that would transform this team I don’t disagree but that then begs the question what is Seko meant for? We have cover in the form of Thompson who we extended, Pearson to return and Sidibie. We didn’t really need additional cover at deep lying midfield and if we’re considering Junho as a left forward we have only Moran as an advanced midfielder. That’s why SS was shoving Burger further up the pitch. The recruitment was simply not intended for the favoured system of the previous HC which just shows how duplicitous Walters is he was deliberately setting him up to fail. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 30, 2024 10:51:32 GMT
Which is what we have an abundance of, we need that beast of a DM still and that would transform this team I don’t disagree but that then begs the question what is Seko meant for? We have cover in the form of Thompson who we extended, Pearson to return and Sidibie. We didn’t really need additional cover at deep lying midfield and if we’re considering Junho as a left forward we have only Moran as an advanced midfielder. That’s why SS was shoving Burger further up the pitch. The recruitment was simply not intended for the favoured system of the previous HC which just shows how duplicitous Walters is he was deliberately setting him up to fail. Deliberately setting him up to fail 😂😂😂 Walters the cross between Dick Dastastdly and Machiavelli…..slinking in the shadows plotting the downfall of Stoke managers. 😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Nov 30, 2024 11:22:23 GMT
Why would you expect a promotion push? We didn't invest heavily in the Summer and most of what we did invest in has not/hardly played. We lost players who were influential in our good end to the season. We sacked a coach who'd won 40% of his games. Get with the programme not losing is the new winning, not conceding is the new scoring, shape is the new flair, boredom the new excitement. JW is the new everything he sacked everyone who was anything before and now he feels nice and secure. You distain for JW and anyone he appoints is becoming boring. How many posts, same attack just different wording. If you’re that anti JW simply withdraw your support for the club in protest, stop trying to convince others and bide your time to say “I told you so” if and when that day comes. Why should anyone withdraw their support from the club because we've got Walters running things? He'll be gone soon anyway. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 30, 2024 11:24:45 GMT
I don’t disagree but that then begs the question what is Seko meant for? We have cover in the form of Thompson who we extended, Pearson to return and Sidibie. We didn’t really need additional cover at deep lying midfield and if we’re considering Junho as a left forward we have only Moran as an advanced midfielder. That’s why SS was shoving Burger further up the pitch. The recruitment was simply not intended for the favoured system of the previous HC which just shows how duplicitous Walters is he was deliberately setting him up to fail. Deliberately setting him up to fail 😂😂😂 Walters the cross between Dick Dastastdly and Machiavelli…..slinking in the shadows plotting the downfall of Stoke managers. 😂😂😂😂 If he was so sure SS was the wrong man he should have had the guts to sack him before the summer transfer window opened but he was more interested in getting his feet more firmly under the table and building his dominance of the club and recruiting for a different ideology. Yet another instance where Walters byword "character" is shown to be hypocrisy of the highest order. Anyway he's got what he wanted god only knows who aspired to this. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Nov 30, 2024 11:24:57 GMT
My God we have some right wankers following this club Change 'following'to 'running' and you're closer to the truth. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 30, 2024 11:26:58 GMT
I quite rightly showed my disdain for Cartwright, his performance as Technical Director, his ties to an agency and ex employer and his part in the downfall in Stoke City. It was balanced and factual over a considerable period of time. Perhaps you have a different glorious reflection of his tenure There’s a significant difference if you wish to compare personal sniping v factual non performance you’re basically saying that you’re entitled to an opinion but Bacon isn’t 🤣😂 what a muppet An opinion based on fact rather than continual drivel based upon a dislike for someone based on his playing days, YES. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 30, 2024 11:27:36 GMT
You distain for JW and anyone he appoints is becoming boring. How many posts, same attack just different wording. If you’re that anti JW simply withdraw your support for the club in protest, stop trying to convince others and bide your time to say “I told you so” if and when that day comes. Why should anyone withdraw their support from the club because we've got Walters running things? He'll be gone soon anyway. Took 10 years of his mate before I finally could take no more I'm fairly persistent. These Pulistas, don't lose merchants think they own the identity of the club but they're always just passing through. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 30, 2024 11:28:20 GMT
You distain for JW and anyone he appoints is becoming boring. How many posts, same attack just different wording. If you’re that anti JW simply withdraw your support for the club in protest, stop trying to convince others and bide your time to say “I told you so” if and when that day comes. Why should anyone withdraw their support from the club because we've got Walters running things? He'll be gone soon anyway. Agenda 2 |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 30, 2024 11:29:22 GMT
you’re basically saying that you’re entitled to an opinion but Bacon isn’t 🤣😂 what a muppet An opinion based on fact rather than continual drivel based upon a dislike for someone based on his playing days, YES. No really I didn't like him as a player and think he's an even shitter person. |
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