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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 14:31:21 GMT
We've had a goal scoring problem for an age and through countless managers/HC's. SS certainly didn't do enough to remedy that but his win percentage and overall record show that his football is about forcing outcomes 13/6/13. I'd much prefer a manager HC who tries to win at the risk of losing than one who prioritises not losing. It's a personal preference, it's why I kept faith in Schumacher despite fundamentally disagreeing with some of his decisions. I have a feeling Pelach is a don't lose HC, it's what his record and his football suggest to me. I wish him well but I'm never going to be a fan of that mindset. Is that ok with you??Of course is. It's your opinion on a message board. Do you have anger issues or something? Not really just think you were using a spurious statistic to make it look like our goal scoring record in Schumacher's 5 games this season with an incomplete squad and our 1 striker the SD had decided to invest in "surprisingly" injured was some sort of justification for his removal. He was doing ok no better, if we'd invested in fit players ready to play and tried to help him by getting some of the players he wanted who'd produced such good football at the end of the previous season plus a striker then maybe he could have been expected to do better but JW spent the money on players we've barely seen instead. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 25, 2024 14:34:06 GMT
We scored 3 goals in Schumacher's first 5 league games this season, what football was that then? We've had a goal scoring problem for an age and through countless managers/HC's. SS certainly didn't do enough to remedy that but his win percentage and overall record show that his football is about forcing outcomes 13/6/13. I'd much prefer a manager HC who tries to win at the risk of losing than one who prioritises not losing. It's a personal preference, it's why I kept faith in Schumacher despite fundamentally disagreeing with some of his decisions. I have a feeling Pelach is a don't lose HC, it's what his record and his football suggest to me. I wish him well but I'm never going to be a fan of that mindset. Is that ok with you?? You really think he’s a negative manager? Almost every game we play is end to end and open, especially at home. There’s been more goals at our stadium than any other in the league. That wouldn’t be the case if he set out not to lose from the start |
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Post by chell_rosey on Nov 25, 2024 14:35:23 GMT
This. I know we're riding on the back of a great keeper, who we'll do well to keep beyond this season, and the HC's still finding his feet but my initial misgivings about the appointment are now more about defensive errors and the lack of squad experience than the HC. I always find it interesting/odd that when you have a good goalkeeper its always painted as being 'lucky'... 'riding on the back of a great keeper', 'we're lucky because if it wasn't for the keeper keeping us in the game etc', whereas if you had an amazing striker that carries the team...it's not seen as being lucky...'if it wasn't for your 20+ goal a season striker scoring a hat-trick you would have lost that' never gets said. I'm certainly not saying there's any luck in terms of the keeper. We're definitely riding on the back of his outstanding performances, was my point. 👍 |
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Post by etebojan on Nov 25, 2024 14:58:39 GMT
I always find it interesting/odd that when you have a good goalkeeper its always painted as being 'lucky'... 'riding on the back of a great keeper', 'we're lucky because if it wasn't for the keeper keeping us in the game etc', whereas if you had an amazing striker that carries the team...it's not seen as being lucky...'if it wasn't for your 20+ goal a season striker scoring a hat-trick you would have lost that' never gets said. I'm certainly not saying there's any luck in terms of the keeper. We're definitely riding on the back of his outstanding performances, was my point. 👍 Yes sorry mate i wasn't specifically digging out anything you'd said at all i probably didn't articulate it very well...it was me speaking out loud really, pondering about the way the 'collective we' mostly speak about great goalkeepers vs great goal scorers. |
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Post by femark on Nov 25, 2024 16:04:19 GMT
Schumacher's football only looked good in a few dead rubber games at the end of the season. His football was rarely exciting or attacking despite promising that. At least Pelach has said we need to get solid and tough to beat before we start playing more attacking football. We really shouldn't judge him after 12 games. They get judged on what they produce from day one, Only a stubborn mule thinks that once they've expressed an opinion it is then set in stone. If he goes on to produce more fluent attacking football I'll revise my opinion. At the moment Schumacher's win percentage is something he can only dream of and that's what I want the team to aspire to winning and better still winning handsomely. I'm aware that this not losing appeals to quite a few but I'm afraid it does little for me personally. You can't fully judge someone on day one though. Yes, all managers need to get short term results, but that has to be balanced against long term progress. At the minute Pelach is showing reasonable short term results and positive long term prospects. Also, a win percentage over 12 games isn't very accurate. His win percentage is currently 25% but if he wins the next 3 on the bounce and that shoots straight up to 40% (exactly the same as Schumacher's). |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 16:04:39 GMT
We've had a goal scoring problem for an age and through countless managers/HC's. SS certainly didn't do enough to remedy that but his win percentage and overall record show that his football is about forcing outcomes 13/6/13. I'd much prefer a manager HC who tries to win at the risk of losing than one who prioritises not losing. It's a personal preference, it's why I kept faith in Schumacher despite fundamentally disagreeing with some of his decisions. I have a feeling Pelach is a don't lose HC, it's what his record and his football suggest to me. I wish him well but I'm never going to be a fan of that mindset. Is that ok with you?? You really think he’s a negative manager? Almost every game we play is end to end and open, especially at home. There’s been more goals at our stadium than any other in the league. That wouldn’t be the case if he set out not to lose from the start For someone who doesn't set out not to lose the records shows he makes a hell of a lot of draws. Some people love it and laud the 1 loss in 8 or whatever some people will look at it and say he's only won 3 in 12 and he only won 17 in 57 in his other significant HC role (17/23/17). The figures don't lie they either suit what you aspire to or they don't. I personally find us quite dull to watch under him Portsmouth aside. We look like a side that obsesses over shape and I think that always blunts flair. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 16:13:49 GMT
They get judged on what they produce from day one, Only a stubborn mule thinks that once they've expressed an opinion it is then set in stone. If he goes on to produce more fluent attacking football I'll revise my opinion. At the moment Schumacher's win percentage is something he can only dream of and that's what I want the team to aspire to winning and better still winning handsomely. I'm aware that this not losing appeals to quite a few but I'm afraid it does little for me personally. You can't fully judge someone on day one though. Yes, all managers need to get short term results, but that has to be balanced against long term progress. At the minute Pelach is showing reasonable short term results and positive long term prospects. Also, a win percentage over 12 games isn't very accurate. His win percentage is currently 25% but if he wins the next 3 on the bounce and that shoots straight up to 40% (exactly the same as Schumacher's). So if and when his win percentage is 40% I'll judge it as being exactly the same as Schumacher's until then it's 25% which is pretty abysmal. You don't ever fully judge something it's a process of constant evaluation. If you ever fully judge you'll still be on side when they've gone past their shelf life. I'm not seeing why he's showing more positive long term prospects than his predecessor. His HC career to date shows he draws a lot of games. I'd much prefer he won more even at the expense of losing a few more. As I keep saying it very much depends on your own personal outlook on the game there isn't a right and wrong. As with much else that is debated about the game. |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 25, 2024 16:19:37 GMT
sorry to seem pedantic but if you look at the original post I was responding to, it clearly talks about negativity to Pelach's appointment. quote' 'Schumachers sacking and Pelachs appointment was met with derision and hostility on here' to which there was a response 'Where’s all this derision and hostility to Pelach!!??' maybe that caused some confusion there? Negativity to Pelach was there by implication, i.e. Walters was out of order and egotistical in appointing someone who was deemed as unqualified and unfit for the job. That was by far the most common response if you look back (nothing to do with being foreign at all, I don't know where or why that came into it?) So in short there was undoubted hostility to the appointment, the feeling that he was under qualified, and I thought I made that clear in my post. I don't feel confused, thanks! I disagree I don't think there was any hostility to Pelach's appointment more bemusement. There was indeed hostility to Walters actions generally because it was a shithouse unmerited duplicitous move. Bayern seems to have tried to imply that his foreigness was some sort of unsavory factor but tbh I think it's just some bollox he's invented. I did fear Walters would employ a pragmatist initial worry was Glenn " I didn't mind not winning but I absolutely hated losing" Whelan. The name and nationality are different not sure how much else. Of course you disagree! Just check the posts on this thread on his appointment, may save abit of time and energy. There was probably more venom on the SS and Walters threads. Maybe we could agree on negativity?..... just a sample from the first 3 pages ........ Who’s this bellend.
Clubs a fucking basket case.
Sit back and enjoy the shit show
This is appalling
Was really hoping for a proper manager
Appalling day for Stoke City FC.
we are appointing a rookie manager with no clout whatsoever
he'll be gone by January
Instead of Allardyce, we got Cowardice.
Bonkers.I think bayern and a couple of others were the only ones who weren't negative. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, and thats what forums are for. It's all part of the fun. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 25, 2024 16:21:28 GMT
You really think he’s a negative manager? Almost every game we play is end to end and open, especially at home. There’s been more goals at our stadium than any other in the league. That wouldn’t be the case if he set out not to lose from the start For someone who doesn't set out not to lose the records shows he makes a hell of a lot of draws. Some people love it and laud the 1 loss in 8 or whatever some people will look at it and say he's only won 3 in 12 and he only won 17 in 57 in his other significant HC role (17/23/17). The figures don't lie they either suit what you aspire to or they don't. I personally find us quite dull to watch under him Portsmouth aside. We look like a side that obsesses over shape and I think that always blunts flair. Whatever you think about how we’ve done under Pelach I don’t see how you can have found it dull at all. Which of the draws that we’ve had has he settled for the draw in or gone out to draw from the start? - Norwich and Swansea we were the much better team in the second half and the only side that looked like winning it towards the end - Bristol City we went 2 up in 15 minutes - Milwall was a tough game that we could have won had the ref done his job - QPR we should have won with the disallowed goal and there was chances at both ends for the entire game even into added time None of these add up to what you’re saying |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 25, 2024 16:23:14 GMT
For someone who doesn't set out not to lose the records shows he makes a hell of a lot of draws. Some people love it and laud the 1 loss in 8 or whatever some people will look at it and say he's only won 3 in 12 and he only won 17 in 57 in his other significant HC role (17/23/17). The figures don't lie they either suit what you aspire to or they don't. I personally find us quite dull to watch under him Portsmouth aside. We look like a side that obsesses over shape and I think that always blunts flair. Whatever you think about how we’ve done under Pelach I don’t see how you can have found it dull at all. Which of the draws that we’ve had has he settled for the draw in or gone out to draw from the start? - Norwich and Swansea we were the much better team in the second half and the only side that looked like winning it towards the end - Bristol City we went 2 up in 15 minutes - Milwall was a tough game that we could have won had the ref done his job - QPR we should have won with the disallowed goal and there was chances at both ends for the entire game even into added time None of these add up to what you’re saying One thing Ive been impressed is the fact that towards the end of most games we have been looking to score goals and have actually looked more likely to score late on Massive improvement in that area for me. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 25, 2024 16:26:41 GMT
Whatever you think about how we’ve done under Pelach I don’t see how you can have found it dull at all. Which of the draws that we’ve had has he settled for the draw in or gone out to draw from the start? - Norwich and Swansea we were the much better team in the second half and the only side that looked like winning it towards the end - Bristol City we went 2 up in 15 minutes - Milwall was a tough game that we could have won had the ref done his job - QPR we should have won with the disallowed goal and there was chances at both ends for the entire game even into added time None of these add up to what you’re saying One thing Ive been impressed is the fact that towards the end of most games we have been looking to score goals and have actually looked more likely to score late on Massive improvement in that area for me. Massively, which is why the argument that he plays for draws has no evidence to back it up when you look at how the games have actually gone |
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Post by headsgoup on Nov 25, 2024 16:26:51 GMT
Credit to Olgrligm in the other thread, but if you look at our xG in brackets against our opposition, it's grim reading: QPR 2.27 (1.19) Millwall 1.93 (0.74) Blackburn 2.78 (2.34) Derby 0.64 (2.25) Sheffield U 1.36 (0.42) Bristol City 2.51 (0.83) Norwich 1.52 (1.00) Swansea 2.04 (0.87) Portsmouth 1.29 (2.52) Middlesbrough 2.45 (0.76) Hull 1.93 (1.02) We're second or third bottom on pretty much every stat relating to chances given away too. This is basically what luck looks like in numeric form. We're a very leaky side with an octopus in goal. I want the guy's lottery numbers. I’m usually a big fan of statistics, and I think you make a good point too, but I’m not having us only being 1.23 goals better than Portsmouth especially when a penalty is 0.76xG. Castlemaine XXXX-G. |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 25, 2024 16:29:55 GMT
One thing Ive been impressed is the fact that towards the end of most games we have been looking to score goals and have actually looked more likely to score late on Massive improvement in that area for me. Massively, which is why the argument that he plays for draws has no evidence to back it up when you look at how the games have actually gone and also this, despite mostly having poor options from the bench in this department (Vidigal, Ennis and Tezgel have offered little to date) . Hopefully he will get some better attacking players to work with in Jan, as well as a fit Gallagher. |
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Post by musik on Nov 25, 2024 17:34:13 GMT
We've had a goal scoring problem for an age and through countless managers/HC's. SS certainly didn't do enough to remedy that but his win percentage and overall record show that his football is about forcing outcomes 13/6/13. I'd much prefer a manager HC who tries to win at the risk of losing than one who prioritises not losing. It's a personal preference, it's why I kept faith in Schumacher despite fundamentally disagreeing with some of his decisions. I have a feeling Pelach is a don't lose HC, it's what his record and his football suggest to me. I wish him well but I'm never going to be a fan of that mindset. Is that ok with you?? You really think he’s a negative manager? Almost every game we play is end to end and open, especially at home. There’s been more goals at our stadium than any other in the league. That wouldn’t be the case if he set out not to lose from the start My thought too, the few games I've got access to so far this season. It's a bit like watching Sweden National team under the new regime. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 18:44:53 GMT
One thing Ive been impressed is the fact that towards the end of most games we have been looking to score goals and have actually looked more likely to score late on Massive improvement in that area for me. Massively, which is why the argument that he plays for draws has no evidence to back it up when you look at how the games have actually gone He almost always makes changes to protect a point towards the end of games and the fact that he draws so many games indicates he favours the draw over forcing the issue and risking losing. You’re arguing against the facts of his career statistics to date. Our Xg has been inferior in most of his games to date so I’d suggest you’re seeing things that aren’t there. His career statistics to date point to the fact that he’s a don’t lose merchant. Whether that’s all there is to him or he can push it in a more positive direction remains to be seen. The fact that draws are the most common outcome of his games in two positions as a HC suggest you don’t know what you’re talking about. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 18:59:45 GMT
I disagree I don't think there was any hostility to Pelach's appointment more bemusement. There was indeed hostility to Walters actions generally because it was a shithouse unmerited duplicitous move. Bayern seems to have tried to imply that his foreigness was some sort of unsavory factor but tbh I think it's just some bollox he's invented. I did fear Walters would employ a pragmatist initial worry was Glenn " I didn't mind not winning but I absolutely hated losing" Whelan. The name and nationality are different not sure how much else. Of course you disagree! Just check the posts on this thread on his appointment, may save abit of time and energy. There was probably more venom on the SS and Walters threads. Maybe we could agree on negativity?..... just a sample from the first 3 pages ........ Who’s this bellend.
Clubs a fucking basket case.
Sit back and enjoy the shit show
This is appalling
Was really hoping for a proper manager
Appalling day for Stoke City FC.
we are appointing a rookie manager with no clout whatsoever
he'll be gone by January
Instead of Allardyce, we got Cowardice.
Bonkers.I think bayern and a couple of others were the only ones who weren't negative. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, and thats what forums are for. It's all part of the fun. Without researching everyone else’s posts I can only speak for myself. I wasn’t the least hostile to his appointment. In fact it was a relief that we weren’t appointing a dinosaur. I’m still not anti just have a perspective that he’s not winning enough games or going for it enough to improve this statistic. I’m not someone who thinks improved resilience necessarily leads to a more winning team, greater resilience often leads to simply losing less often. Which doesn’t necessarily lead to accruing more points or providing better entertainment. It mainly placates folk who can’t deal with losing. |
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 25, 2024 19:16:32 GMT
I like what he is trying to achieve, unity and togetherness. The only bit I am a little concerned about is that he says we are going to be a team which dominates possession, yet we seem to not be doing so by and large and as such not controlling the tempo of games. Our games almost become basketball type games, which makes for great entertainment, yet unpredictable results.
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Post by thornestein on Nov 25, 2024 19:17:43 GMT
I disagree I don't think there was any hostility to Pelach's appointment more bemusement. There was indeed hostility to Walters actions generally because it was a shithouse unmerited duplicitous move. Bayern seems to have tried to imply that his foreigness was some sort of unsavory factor but tbh I think it's just some bollox he's invented. I did fear Walters would employ a pragmatist initial worry was Glenn " I didn't mind not winning but I absolutely hated losing" Whelan. The name and nationality are different not sure how much else. Of course you disagree! Just check the posts on this thread on his appointment, may save abit of time and energy. There was probably more venom on the SS and Walters threads. Maybe we could agree on negativity?..... just a sample from the first 3 pages ........ Who’s this bellend.
Clubs a fucking basket case.
Sit back and enjoy the shit show
This is appalling
Was really hoping for a proper manager
Appalling day for Stoke City FC.
we are appointing a rookie manager with no clout whatsoever
he'll be gone by January
Instead of Allardyce, we got Cowardice.
Bonkers.I think bayern and a couple of others were the only ones who weren't negative. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, and thats what forums are for. It's all part of the fun. football fans having an opinion on their club , who would have thought it 🤦♂️ |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 25, 2024 19:20:38 GMT
I like what he is trying to achieve, unity and togetherness. The only bit I am a little concerned about is that he says we are going to be a team which dominates possession, yet we seem to not be doing so by and large and as such not controlling the tempo of games. Our games almost become basketball type games, which makes for great entertainment, yet unpredictable results. We had 54% of possession on Saturday and we were the away team. For the Millwall game we had 72% possession For Derby 53% |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 25, 2024 19:22:17 GMT
Of course you disagree! Just check the posts on this thread on his appointment, may save abit of time and energy. There was probably more venom on the SS and Walters threads. Maybe we could agree on negativity?..... just a sample from the first 3 pages ........ Who’s this bellend.
Clubs a fucking basket case.
Sit back and enjoy the shit show
This is appalling
Was really hoping for a proper manager
Appalling day for Stoke City FC.
we are appointing a rookie manager with no clout whatsoever
he'll be gone by January
Instead of Allardyce, we got Cowardice.
Bonkers.I think bayern and a couple of others were the only ones who weren't negative. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, and thats what forums are for. It's all part of the fun. football fans having an opinion on their club , who would have thought it 🤦♂️ It's cool isn't it....long may it live. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 25, 2024 19:27:54 GMT
football fans having an opinion on their club , who would have thought it 🤦♂️ It's cool isn't it....long may it live. Opinions such as “who is this bellend?” 😂 |
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 25, 2024 19:30:21 GMT
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 25, 2024 19:30:24 GMT
You can't fully judge someone on day one though. Yes, all managers need to get short term results, but that has to be balanced against long term progress. At the minute Pelach is showing reasonable short term results and positive long term prospects. Also, a win percentage over 12 games isn't very accurate. His win percentage is currently 25% but if he wins the next 3 on the bounce and that shoots straight up to 40% (exactly the same as Schumacher's). So if and when his win percentage is 40% I'll judge it as being exactly the same as Schumacher's until then it's 25% which is pretty abysmal. You don't ever fully judge something it's a process of constant evaluation. If you ever fully judge you'll still be on side when they've gone past their shelf life. I'm not seeing why he's showing more positive long term prospects than his predecessor. His HC career to date shows he draws a lot of games. I'd much prefer he won more even at the expense of losing a few more. As I keep saying it very much depends on your own personal outlook on the game there isn't a right and wrong. As with much else that is debated about the game. With the current available squad and accepting its core age group and lack of experience where specifically do you think he’s failing and what he could/should do differently? |
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Post by marwood on Nov 25, 2024 20:09:22 GMT
I disagree I don't think there was any hostility to Pelach's appointment more bemusement. There was indeed hostility to Walters actions generally because it was a shithouse unmerited duplicitous move. Bayern seems to have tried to imply that his foreigness was some sort of unsavory factor but tbh I think it's just some bollox he's invented. I did fear Walters would employ a pragmatist initial worry was Glenn " I didn't mind not winning but I absolutely hated losing" Whelan. The name and nationality are different not sure how much else. Of course you disagree! Just check the posts on this thread on his appointment, may save abit of time and energy. There was probably more venom on the SS and Walters threads. Maybe we could agree on negativity?..... just a sample from the first 3 pages ........ Who’s this bellend.
Clubs a fucking basket case.
Sit back and enjoy the shit show
This is appalling
Was really hoping for a proper manager
Appalling day for Stoke City FC.
we are appointing a rookie manager with no clout whatsoever
he'll be gone by January
Instead of Allardyce, we got Cowardice.
Bonkers.I think bayern and a couple of others were the only ones who weren't negative. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, and thats what forums are for. It's all part of the fun. A lot of the venom was directed at Walters and the club and the way in which the dismissal of Schumacher was handled As others have stated he had a mountain to climb when he arrived - in terms of squad he inherited and his perception with the fan base On the whole I am trying to get behind him as he has the energy and belief His tendency towards aiming for a point rather than 3 is irritating at times -you can get by in the prem on that tactic, but not the Championship. Early days yet and I'm hopeful some of those draws will turn into wins |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 20:11:12 GMT
So if and when his win percentage is 40% I'll judge it as being exactly the same as Schumacher's until then it's 25% which is pretty abysmal. You don't ever fully judge something it's a process of constant evaluation. If you ever fully judge you'll still be on side when they've gone past their shelf life. I'm not seeing why he's showing more positive long term prospects than his predecessor. His HC career to date shows he draws a lot of games. I'd much prefer he won more even at the expense of losing a few more. As I keep saying it very much depends on your own personal outlook on the game there isn't a right and wrong. As with much else that is debated about the game. With the current available squad and accepting its core age group and lack of experience where specifically do you think he’s failing and what he could/should do differently? I don’t think the current squad apart from the lack of an available lead the line striker is a handicapp it’s very much on a par with Sunderland’s in terms of age and experience. I feel he should free up the team play a solider base and give our flair attacking players more freedom and be more willing to embrace defeat in search of victory. Defend properly in terms of 352 or 433 both with two deep lying midfielders with attacking players given more freedom and the base defensive structure being expected to cope. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 25, 2024 20:28:57 GMT
Massively, which is why the argument that he plays for draws has no evidence to back it up when you look at how the games have actually gone He almost always makes changes to protect a point towards the end of games and the fact that he draws so many games indicates he favours the draw over forcing the issue and risking losing. You’re arguing against the facts of his career statistics to date. Our Xg has been inferior in most of his games to date so I’d suggest you’re seeing things that aren’t there. His career statistics to date point to the fact that he’s a don’t lose merchant. Whether that’s all there is to him or he can push it in a more positive direction remains to be seen. The fact that draws are the most common outcome of his games in two positions as a HC suggest you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your argument is too simplistic and you’re using far too small a sample size to make it. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 20:33:28 GMT
He almost always makes changes to protect a point towards the end of games and the fact that he draws so many games indicates he favours the draw over forcing the issue and risking losing. You’re arguing against the facts of his career statistics to date. Our Xg has been inferior in most of his games to date so I’d suggest you’re seeing things that aren’t there. His career statistics to date point to the fact that he’s a don’t lose merchant. Whether that’s all there is to him or he can push it in a more positive direction remains to be seen. The fact that draws are the most common outcome of his games in two positions as a HC suggest you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your argument is too simplistic and you’re using far too small a sample size to make it. My argument is based in facts whereas yours is based in feelings. Over 69 games as a HC he’s drawn more than any other outcome. That’s not a particularly small sample size. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 25, 2024 20:47:41 GMT
With the current available squad and accepting its core age group and lack of experience where specifically do you think he’s failing and what he could/should do differently? I don’t think the current squad apart from the lack of an available lead the line striker is a handicapp it’s very much on a par with Sunderland’s in terms of age and experience. I feel he should free up the team play a solider base and give our flair attacking players more freedom and be more willing to embrace defeat in search of victory. Defend properly in terms of 352 or 433 both with two deep lying midfielders with attacking players given more freedom and the base defensive structure being expected to cope. Charge of the Light Brigade stuff. Me, simply pragmatic, we’ve recently gained a bit of light between us and the teams below us, we’ve drastically improved our GD with a young threadbare and to some extent unbalanced squad, we’re constantly giving young players increased game time, we consistently look as though we can score goals and that’s not enough. I can’t comment with any authority whatsoever on formations 352, 433 etc or about deep lying midfielders as I only sit in the stands. I suppose if I could I’d be sitting in the dug out alongside the other members of the coaching staff. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Nov 25, 2024 20:52:37 GMT
With the current available squad and accepting its core age group and lack of experience where specifically do you think he’s failing and what he could/should do differently? I don’t think the current squad apart from the lack of an available lead the line striker is a handicapp it’s very much on a par with Sunderland’s in terms of age and experience. I feel he should free up the team play a solider base and give our flair attacking players more freedom and be more willing to embrace defeat in search of victory. Defend properly in terms of 352 or 433 both with two deep lying midfielders with attacking players given more freedom and the base defensive structure being expected to cope. You appear to have avoided the key word in the question “available”. Our strongest XI includes Stevens, Burger, Moran, Gallagher and probably Lawal. He is also without Gooch and Pearson. Sunderland don’t have 7 matchday squad players out. When all fit we will be close but to date he is getting results with almost no bench to draw on. And it is so much more fun going to games than at any time since 2018 |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Nov 25, 2024 21:00:33 GMT
I don't give a fuck about stats, xG etc.
Can I see what he's trying to achieve? Yes
Can I see a style trying emerge? Yes
Do I see a bit more togetherness on the Pitch? Yes
That will do for me it's early days. Going be massive ups and downs, I'm hopeful it will lead to something.
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