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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 25, 2024 9:22:29 GMT
Where’s all this derision and hostility to Pelach!!?? I’m genuinely confused. I haven’t seen any of that. Can you point some out please? I was stood near someone who was booing him off after the hull game. There was definitely ill feeling from fans especially slating Walter’s Some of the posts before the Portsmouth game and after the Sheff Utd games particularly we're embarrassing...... |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 9:22:36 GMT
Schumacher was on a hiding to nothing the moment Walters walked through the door. I think that much is now clear. He did indeed compromise his beliefs in the face of some vocal players favouring a more pragmatic approach. I doubt that would have materialised if those players didn’t know they had the ear of the SD. His ideas were going to take time to fully implement just as NP’s will. To me it’s now clear that there was not alignment between SD and HC on the whole belief of how to play the game. IMO neither have got it right nearly often enough but I strongly believe that in the games where we did execute what Schumacher was trying to implement we were far better to watch than we have so far been under Pelach. Obviously it’s all water under the bridge and I want NP to be successful but I have to be honest and say in the main I’ve found his football rather dull. Schumacher didn’t cut it end of. People forget we very very nearly got relegated last season. Some of his decisions were awful Didn’t cut it lol terrible win percentage much better not to lose and seldom win FFS. I fully agree some of SS decisions were awful I criticised them regularly but there’s no way a manager with that win percentage deserves to be sacked. Pelach’s win percentage is horrific by comparison. Are we back to being too scared of losing to win? We certainly make changes to protect the point rather than go for the win. If that’s what folks want then fine but it’s not for everyone. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 25, 2024 9:25:14 GMT
I was stood near someone who was booing him off after the hull game. There was definitely ill feeling from fans especially slating Walter’s I was highly critical after the Middlesbrough game it was football criticism not personal. I stand by it even after this run of losing only 1 game in 8, I don’t much like his football and find it pretty boring. Walters is an entirely different issue he keeps providing the ammunition, he’ll throw anyone under the bus including his Dad. How can you be highly critical of someone who had at that time been at the club 1 1/2 weeks. I was shocked by Schumacher sacking of the timing but we are now better, harder to beat I just like the whole feeling about the place. I’ve been on board with chicho from the word go I feel he can turn this club’s fortunes around. Yes we are going to have a bad patch but we have to get behind the club. Baring 2 awful decisions we would be 8th now 2 points off play offs. Like people have said we are better at home pick up points away and this with injuries. Even the players look happier than they did |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 25, 2024 9:29:03 GMT
I was stood near someone who was booing him off after the hull game. There was definitely ill feeling from fans especially slating Walter’s Some of the posts before the Portsmouth game and after the Sheff Utd games particularly we're embarrassing...... They were it’s unbelievable really why fans can’t get straight behind a manager from the off is incredible. They had already made their mind up on him. I do think a lot want Walter’s to fail which I don’t understand at all. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 25, 2024 9:34:56 GMT
Schumacher didn’t cut it end of. People forget we very very nearly got relegated last season. Some of his decisions were awful Didn’t cut it lol terrible win percentage much better not to lose and seldom win FFS. I fully agree some of SS decisions were awful I criticised them regularly but there’s no way a manager with that win percentage deserves to be sacked. Pelach’s win percentage is horrific by comparison. Are we back to being too scared of losing to win? We certainly make changes to protect the point rather than go for the win. If that’s what folks want then fine but it’s not for everyone. chicho is going to make mistakes I thought he should have changed things before they QPR equalised. It was frustrating as we seemed to go for it more when level but as I’ve said in another post to you we have injuries and a suspension on Saturday and we didn’t lose and were robbed of 2 wins in the last 2 games which would have put us 8th. So if that’s making us worse bring it on. Ss has gone now so you need to move on from that whether he should have been sacked or not. |
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Post by musik on Nov 25, 2024 9:38:51 GMT
We were nearly relegated last season. How can that mean we had a high win percentage under Schumacher?
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 9:41:29 GMT
I was highly critical after the Middlesbrough game it was football criticism not personal. I stand by it even after this run of losing only 1 game in 8, I don’t much like his football and find it pretty boring. Walters is an entirely different issue he keeps providing the ammunition, he’ll throw anyone under the bus including his Dad. How can you be highly critical of someone who had at that time been at the club 1 1/2 weeks. I was shocked by Schumacher sacking of the timing but we are now better, harder to beat I just like the whole feeling about the place. I’ve been on board with chicho from the word go I feel he can turn this club’s fortunes around. Yes we are going to have a bad patch but we have to get behind the club. Baring 2 awful decisions we would be 8th now 2 points off play offs. Like people have said we are better at home pick up points away and this with injuries. Even the players look happier than they did Glad you’re liking it. Being harder to beat just isn’t what I aspire to if it involves winning less. I much prefer the Schumacher philosophy of high risk/high reward football so I can criticise someone who moves away from that to a more passive don’t lose philosophy no matter how long they’ve been in post. Saying we’ve only lost 1 in 8 might do it for you but we’ve won 3 in 12 which at most clubs a manager/HC might be worrying about their job not being lauded. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 9:43:46 GMT
We were nearly relegated last season. How can that mean we had a high win percentage under Schumacher? So now you don’t believe in win percentages FFS they’re unarguable. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 25, 2024 9:52:37 GMT
How can you be highly critical of someone who had at that time been at the club 1 1/2 weeks. I was shocked by Schumacher sacking of the timing but we are now better, harder to beat I just like the whole feeling about the place. I’ve been on board with chicho from the word go I feel he can turn this club’s fortunes around. Yes we are going to have a bad patch but we have to get behind the club. Baring 2 awful decisions we would be 8th now 2 points off play offs. Like people have said we are better at home pick up points away and this with injuries. Even the players look happier than they did Glad you’re liking it. Being harder to beat just isn’t what I aspire to if it involves winning less. I much prefer the Schumacher philosophy of high risk/high reward football so I can criticise someone who moves away from that to a more passive don’t lose philosophy no matter how long they’ve been in post. Saying we’ve only lost 1 in 8 might do it for you but we’ve won 3 in 12 which at most clubs a manager/HC might be worrying about their job not being lauded. Schumacher very rarely played like that. He shat himself. 2 of those wins were dead rubber games. I was convinced he would take us down. I think you forgot just how bad we were under him. I don’t know where you get the high risk high reward from because I didn’t see it like that. |
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Post by RF10 on Nov 25, 2024 9:59:47 GMT
Some of the posts before the Portsmouth game and after the Sheff Utd games particularly we're embarrassing...... They were it’s unbelievable really why fans can’t get straight behind a manager from the off is incredible. They had already made their mind up on him. I do think a lot want Walter’s to fail which I don’t understand at all. I don't think that's it. I'd say it's the abject failure we have had to put up with over the past god knows how many seasons now, and the continual turnover in managers. Although not pulling up tree most fans were content with Schumacher and expecting us to progress. It all got ripped up and we started off with poor results. Fast forward to now, I think we should all be focusing on getting behind him and any negativity won't help. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 10:15:36 GMT
Glad you’re liking it. Being harder to beat just isn’t what I aspire to if it involves winning less. I much prefer the Schumacher philosophy of high risk/high reward football so I can criticise someone who moves away from that to a more passive don’t lose philosophy no matter how long they’ve been in post. Saying we’ve only lost 1 in 8 might do it for you but we’ve won 3 in 12 which at most clubs a manager/HC might be worrying about their job not being lauded. Schumacher very rarely played like that. He shat himself. 2 of those wins were dead rubber games. I was convinced he would take us down. I think you forgot just how bad we were under him. I don’t know where you get the high risk high reward from because I didn’t see it like that. He played like that soon after taking up the job until a “player “ revolt forced him to compromise to a more pragmatic approach. We won a couple of games and sneaked out of the bottom 3 but were only ever convincing when he returned to what he believes in from Plymouth H onwards. I really don’t see any “player revolt” materialising without the vocal ones knowing they had the ear and sympathy of the TD who just so happened to have just walked through the door. Yes at times we were awful under him but he left with a win percentage that Pelach at the moment can only dream about , I wonder how that happened?? |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 10:19:34 GMT
They were it’s unbelievable really why fans can’t get straight behind a manager from the off is incredible. They had already made their mind up on him. I do think a lot want Walter’s to fail which I don’t understand at all. I don't think that's it. I'd say it's the abject failure we have had to put up with over the past god knows how many seasons now, and the continual turnover in managers. Although not pulling up tree most fans were content with Schumacher and expecting us to progress. It all got ripped up and we started off with poor results. Fast forward to now, I think we should all be focusing on getting behind him and any negativity won't help. Negativity is that the same as honesty,objectivity and perspective. This is football tailored for people who above all else despise losing. Winning, excitement and entertainment not so much. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 25, 2024 10:23:20 GMT
How can you be highly critical of someone who had at that time been at the club 1 1/2 weeks. I was shocked by Schumacher sacking of the timing but we are now better, harder to beat I just like the whole feeling about the place. I’ve been on board with chicho from the word go I feel he can turn this club’s fortunes around. Yes we are going to have a bad patch but we have to get behind the club. Baring 2 awful decisions we would be 8th now 2 points off play offs. Like people have said we are better at home pick up points away and this with injuries. Even the players look happier than they did Glad you’re liking it. Being harder to beat just isn’t what I aspire to if it involves winning less. I much prefer the Schumacher philosophy of high risk/high reward football so I can criticise someone who moves away from that to a more passive don’t lose philosophy no matter how long they’ve been in post. Saying we’ve only lost 1 in 8 might do it for you but we’ve won 3 in 12 which at most clubs a manager/HC might be worrying about their job not being lauded. He has been manager for 12 matches! He is slowly building on firm foundations. High risk football is based on shakey foundations of having better players than every team you play. Exciting until you keep losing 4-3 or 3-2. I haven't found that the entertainment level has dropped in home matches and the team are certainly more driven and the atmosphere is better. I suggest you look up Tony Pulis' first twelve matches in both stints at Stoke. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 10:33:55 GMT
Glad you’re liking it. Being harder to beat just isn’t what I aspire to if it involves winning less. I much prefer the Schumacher philosophy of high risk/high reward football so I can criticise someone who moves away from that to a more passive don’t lose philosophy no matter how long they’ve been in post. Saying we’ve only lost 1 in 8 might do it for you but we’ve won 3 in 12 which at most clubs a manager/HC might be worrying about their job not being lauded. He has been manager for 12 matches! He is slowly building on firm foundations. High risk football is based on shaky foundations of having better players than every team you play. Exciting until you keep losing 4-3 or 3-2. I haven't found that the entertainment level has dropped in home matches and the team are certainly more driven and the atmosphere is B better. I suggest you look up Tony Pulis' first twelve matches in both stints at Stoke. Why would I want to that I couldn’t stand Pulis in either tenure. Whatever he achieved 90+% of the games were painfully boring to watch. Any time he happened upon an exciting winning formula he shit himself and ripped it up ( fist half of promotion season & from the WHU cup game until shortly before the FA. Cup Final). I wanted him gone every single season he was here. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 25, 2024 10:42:23 GMT
I don't think that's it. I'd say it's the abject failure we have had to put up with over the past god knows how many seasons now, and the continual turnover in managers. Although not pulling up tree most fans were content with Schumacher and expecting us to progress. It all got ripped up and we started off with poor results. Fast forward to now, I think we should all be focusing on getting behind him and any negativity won't help. Negativity is that the same as honesty,objectivity and perspective. This is football tailored for people who above all else despise losing. Winning, excitement and entertainment not so much. We scored 3 goals in Schumacher's first 5 league games this season, what football was that then? |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 25, 2024 11:00:48 GMT
Schumacher very rarely played like that. He shat himself. 2 of those wins were dead rubber games. I was convinced he would take us down. I think you forgot just how bad we were under him. I don’t know where you get the high risk high reward from because I didn’t see it like that. He played like that soon after taking up the job until a “player “ revolt forced him to compromise to a more pragmatic approach. We won a couple of games and sneaked out of the bottom 3 but were only ever convincing when he returned to what he believes in from Plymouth H onwards. I really don’t see any “player revolt” materialising without the vocal ones knowing they had the ear and sympathy of the TD who just so happened to have just walked through the door. Yes at times we were awful under him but he left with a win percentage that Pelach at the moment can only dream about , I wonder how that happened?? I heard it was a player revolt but the other way round that’s how we stayed up. Got to be honest I’m not one for win percentages just what I see with my eyes |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 25, 2024 11:04:11 GMT
They were it’s unbelievable really why fans can’t get straight behind a manager from the off is incredible. They had already made their mind up on him. I do think a lot want Walter’s to fail which I don’t understand at all. I don't think that's it. I'd say it's the abject failure we have had to put up with over the past god knows how many seasons now, and the continual turnover in managers. Although not pulling up tree most fans were content with Schumacher and expecting us to progress. It all got ripped up and we started off with poor results. Fast forward to now, I think we should all be focusing on getting behind him and any negativity won't help. A bit of both I would say. Yes maybe a lot were content with ss but that was being content with championship mid table forever. In the end it was clear he wasn’t the one to take us forward. Agree we should now all get behind the manager, players the club in general. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 25, 2024 12:44:24 GMT
Where’s all this derision and hostility to Pelach!!?? I’m genuinely confused. I haven’t seen any of that. Can you point some out please? Where have you been? There was an hysterical reaction on here to Pelachs appointment and some pretty nasty stuff written about Walters on here. He was mostly dismissed as a Walters puppet or vanity project. There were very few in here open to his appointment. I haven’t got the time to flag up posts but anyone who thinks there wasn’t was either on holiday or is now in denial. Very strange to suggest otherwise. I remember some shite thrown at Walters. As per usual. I can’t honestly recall much negativity to Pelach. And in recent weeks I’d say there’s been pretty positive vibe regarding the manager. |
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Post by stokief on Nov 25, 2024 12:55:13 GMT
Here I go again!  Prior to players revolt and Jon Walters battle cries! 20 jan 2024 Stoke 1 Birmingham 2 27 jan 2024 Sunderland 3 Stoke 1 3Feb 2024 Stoke 0 Leicester 5 10 Feb Blackburn 3 Stoke 1 14 Feb Stoke 1 OPR 0 ..yay 17 Feb Stoke 0 Coventry 1 24 Feb Cardiff 2 Stoke 1 6 losses and 1 measly win. that form was ok was it? That was a Manager who had sh!t under control was it? Thank goodness for a player revolt etc. I don't count the wins once we were safe. that was just the players going out there and doing their own thing without pressure. But hey, keep the rose tinted specs on if you like. Just my humble opinion as usual! GOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN STOKE! |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 25, 2024 13:05:59 GMT
Where have you been? There was an hysterical reaction on here to Pelachs appointment and some pretty nasty stuff written about Walters on here. He was mostly dismissed as a Walters puppet or vanity project. There were very few in here open to his appointment. I haven’t got the time to flag up posts but anyone who thinks there wasn’t was either on holiday or is now in denial. Very strange to suggest otherwise. You seem to be confusing two things. Comment on Walters behaviour is nothing to do with Pelach. People were shocked and nonplussed by the appointment of Pelach and questions were asked about his experience and readiness for a top job at this level. I wouldn’t describe it as derision or hostility and certainly no one I saw had any hostility to him being foreign. I’m still not too impressed by the football he’s producing but I wish him the best. I don’t like Walters and only want him to succeed for the sake of the club, personally I think the man regularly demonstrates in his behaviour that he’s a bit of a cunt. sorry to seem pedantic but if you look at the original post I was responding to, it clearly talks about negativity to Pelach's appointment. quote' 'Schumachers sacking and Pelachs appointment was met with derision and hostility on here' to which there was a response 'Where’s all this derision and hostility to Pelach!!??' (maybe that one caused some confusion there?) Negativity to Pelach was there by implication, i.e. Walters was out of order and egotistical in appointing someone who was deemed as unqualified and unfit for the job. That was by far the most common response if you look back (nothing to do with being foreign at all, I don't know where or why that came into it?) So in short there was undoubted hostility to the appointment, the feeling that he was under qualified, and I thought I made that clear in my post. I don't feel confused, thanks! |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 13:07:17 GMT
Here I go again! Prior to players revolt and Jon Walters battle cries! 20 jan 2024 Stoke 1 Birmingham 2 27 jan 2024 Sunderland 3 Stoke 1 3Feb 2024 Stoke 0 Leicester 5 10 Feb Blackburn 3 Stoke 1 14 Feb Stoke 1 OPR 0 ..yay 17 Feb Stoke 0 Coventry 1 24 Feb Cardiff 2 Stoke 1 6 losses and 1 measly win. that form was ok was it? That was a Manager who had sh!t under control was it? Thank goodness for a player revolt etc. I don't count the wins once we were safe. that was just the players going out there and doing their own thing without pressure. But hey, keep the rose tinted specs on if you like. Just my humble opinion as usual! GOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN STOKE! We won 3 of the following 9 playing pragmatic percentage football it was hardly the stuff dreams are made of. All of our previous three managers/HC's produced short periods of very good watchable football. The incumbent hasn't really managed anything of the sort so far he's just managed to produce a period where we've lost very few. We haven't won many of them mind it's all seems a bit rowettesque. |
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Post by femark on Nov 25, 2024 13:10:40 GMT
Schumacher very rarely played like that. He shat himself. 2 of those wins were dead rubber games. I was convinced he would take us down. I think you forgot just how bad we were under him. I don’t know where you get the high risk high reward from because I didn’t see it like that. He played like that soon after taking up the job until a “player “ revolt forced him to compromise to a more pragmatic approach. We won a couple of games and sneaked out of the bottom 3 but were only ever convincing when he returned to what he believes in from Plymouth H onwards. I really don’t see any “player revolt” materialising without the vocal ones knowing they had the ear and sympathy of the TD who just so happened to have just walked through the door. Yes at times we were awful under him but he left with a win percentage that Pelach at the moment can only dream about , I wonder how that happened?? Schumacher's football only looked good in a few dead rubber games at the end of the season. His football was rarely exciting or attacking despite promising that. At least Pelach has said we need to get solid and tough to beat before we start playing more attacking football. We really shouldn't judge him after 12 games. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 13:17:44 GMT
You seem to be confusing two things. Comment on Walters behaviour is nothing to do with Pelach. People were shocked and nonplussed by the appointment of Pelach and questions were asked about his experience and readiness for a top job at this level. I wouldn’t describe it as derision or hostility and certainly no one I saw had any hostility to him being foreign. I’m still not too impressed by the football he’s producing but I wish him the best. I don’t like Walters and only want him to succeed for the sake of the club, personally I think the man regularly demonstrates in his behaviour that he’s a bit of a cunt. sorry to seem pedantic but if you look at the original post I was responding to, it clearly talks about negativity to Pelach's appointment. quote' 'Schumachers sacking and Pelachs appointment was met with derision and hostility on here' to which there was a response 'Where’s all this derision and hostility to Pelach!!??' maybe that caused some confusion there? Negativity to Pelach was there by implication, i.e. Walters was out of order and egotistical in appointing someone who was deemed as unqualified and unfit for the job. That was by far the most common response if you look back (nothing to do with being foreign at all, I don't know where or why that came into it?) So in short there was undoubted hostility to the appointment, the feeling that he was under qualified, and I thought I made that clear in my post. I don't feel confused, thanks! I disagree I don't think there was any hostility to Pelach's appointment more bemusement. There was indeed hostility to Walters actions generally because it was a shithouse unmerited duplicitous move. Bayern seems to have tried to imply that his foreigness was some sort of unsavory factor but tbh I think it's just some bollox he's invented. I did fear Walters would employ a pragmatist initial worry was Glenn " I didn't mind not winning but I absolutely hated losing" Whelan. The name and nationality are different not sure how much else. |
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Post by canadianmoose on Nov 25, 2024 13:17:52 GMT
I think Pelach is doing ok given the size of the job.
Attacking play is starting to look more fluid but the only real concern for me is the passive defending and the number of shots we are giving up to the opposition. We look like the keystone cops at times.
If we can shore up the defending side I think we will really push on. Might be a couple of transfer windows before we really see things accelerate though.
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Post by jstoke7 on Nov 25, 2024 13:21:07 GMT
I was highly critical after the Middlesbrough game it was football criticism not personal. I stand by it even after this run of losing only 1 game in 8, I don’t much like his football and find it pretty boring. Walters is an entirely different issue he keeps providing the ammunition, he’ll throw anyone under the bus including his Dad. How can you be highly critical of someone who had at that time been at the club 1 1/2 weeks. I was shocked by Schumacher sacking of the timing but we are now better, harder to beat I just like the whole feeling about the place. I’ve been on board with chicho from the word go I feel he can turn this club’s fortunes around. Yes we are going to have a bad patch but we have to get behind the club. Baring 2 awful decisions we would be 8th now 2 points off play offs. Like people have said we are better at home pick up points away and this with injuries. Even the players look happier than they did Better and harder to beat? Teams have been creating chances left right and centre against us but haven't managed to convert. Purely on results maybe, but not performance wise. |
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 25, 2024 13:23:47 GMT
I am on board with him, doing a good job and starting to get something positive going. A win on Tuesday should see us looking quite healthy. When we have the 4 injured players back, we can judge more and a few decent additions and the second half of the season should start to look quite decent. From where we were, a top 10 finish would be a positive.
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 13:27:48 GMT
He played like that soon after taking up the job until a “player “ revolt forced him to compromise to a more pragmatic approach. We won a couple of games and sneaked out of the bottom 3 but were only ever convincing when he returned to what he believes in from Plymouth H onwards. I really don’t see any “player revolt” materialising without the vocal ones knowing they had the ear and sympathy of the TD who just so happened to have just walked through the door. Yes at times we were awful under him but he left with a win percentage that Pelach at the moment can only dream about , I wonder how that happened?? Schumacher's football only looked good in a few dead rubber games at the end of the season. His football was rarely exciting or attacking despite promising that. At least Pelach has said we need to get solid and tough to beat before we start playing more attacking football. We really shouldn't judge him after 12 games. They get judged on what they produce from day one, Only a stubborn mule thinks that once they've expressed an opinion it is then set in stone. If he goes on to produce more fluent attacking football I'll revise my opinion. At the moment Schumacher's win percentage is something he can only dream of and that's what I want the team to aspire to winning and better still winning handsomely. I'm aware that this not losing appeals to quite a few but I'm afraid it does little for me personally. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 13:50:44 GMT
Glad you’re liking it. Being harder to beat just isn’t what I aspire to if it involves winning less. I much prefer the Schumacher philosophy of high risk/high reward football so I can criticise someone who moves away from that to a more passive don’t lose philosophy no matter how long they’ve been in post. Saying we’ve only lost 1 in 8 might do it for you but we’ve won 3 in 12 which at most clubs a manager/HC might be worrying about their job not being lauded. Schumacher very rarely played like that. He shat himself. 2 of those wins were dead rubber games. I was convinced he would take us down. I think you forgot just how bad we were under him. I don’t know where you get the high risk high reward from because I didn’t see it like that. 13 wins 13 losses 6 draws compared to 3 wins 5 draws and 4 losses suggests maybe you don't see things as they are rather how you want to see them. A Schumacher team was much more likely to win or lose than draw. Isn't that indicative of high risk/high reward. If you look at Pelach's record in his other significant HC role 57 games 17 wins 23 draws 17 losses leads me to believe he's a don't lose HC with a poor win percentage. I hope he can remedy that but his start here is comparable to that record. I've spent enough time waiting for a manager/HC to evolve to know they rarely do. If not losing is your thing he's probably your man. |
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Post by baconburger on Nov 25, 2024 14:06:24 GMT
Negativity is that the same as honesty,objectivity and perspective. This is football tailored for people who above all else despise losing. Winning, excitement and entertainment not so much. We scored 3 goals in Schumacher's first 5 league games this season, what football was that then? We've had a goal scoring problem for an age and through countless managers/HC's. SS certainly didn't do enough to remedy that but his win percentage and overall record show that his football is about forcing outcomes 13/6/13. I'd much prefer a manager HC who tries to win at the risk of losing than one who prioritises not losing. It's a personal preference, it's why I kept faith in Schumacher despite fundamentally disagreeing with some of his decisions. I have a feeling Pelach is a don't lose HC, it's what his record and his football suggest to me. I wish him well but I'm never going to be a fan of that mindset. Is that ok with you?? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 25, 2024 14:18:10 GMT
We scored 3 goals in Schumacher's first 5 league games this season, what football was that then? We've had a goal scoring problem for an age and through countless managers/HC's. SS certainly didn't do enough to remedy that but his win percentage and overall record show that his football is about forcing outcomes 13/6/13. I'd much prefer a manager HC who tries to win at the risk of losing than one who prioritises not losing. It's a personal preference, it's why I kept faith in Schumacher despite fundamentally disagreeing with some of his decisions. I have a feeling Pelach is a don't lose HC, it's what his record and his football suggest to me. I wish him well but I'm never going to be a fan of that mindset. Is that ok with you??Of course is. It's your opinion on a message board. Do you have anger issues or something? |
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