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Post by robstokie on Oct 26, 2024 15:58:25 GMT
Schumacher was not the answer. He was OK nothing more. His last game v Oxford was awful and I’m not sure we’d have got much better. It’s unfair to judge Pelach when he’s got none of his own players and is lacking 2 huge ingredients a DM and Gallagher. He showed v Pompey how good we can be in which was pretty much the only game he’s had Gallagher. He needs time. Pep would struggle with a team totally lacking in key ingredients that leave us toothless. Trying to play tippy tappy football with the players we have is utter fucking lunacy. Playing 5 at the back is cowardice. What we needed to do today was pack the midfield - Burger, Thompson and Moran with Sidibe coming in on at 60 minutes. It's not good enough, he's out of his depth and needs to be fucked off tonight.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 26, 2024 15:59:10 GMT
3 games that weren't fun to watch and we deserved to lose all 3.
Panicked switch to 5 at the back again. Sigh.
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Post by degoeystache on Oct 26, 2024 15:59:21 GMT
I’ll pass judgement on Pelach after the next 5 games. I think if we don’t pick up 8 or 9 points then he needs to be gone.
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Post by stokiekm on Oct 26, 2024 16:00:34 GMT
The yapping 😂😂😂 And pining for Schumacher. Fucking strange lot. Virtually No-one wanted Schuey gone, bar Jon Walters ego, and certainly no one wanted the Spanish equivalent of Nathan Jones. We keep on with this charlatan and his useful idiot we will be in the abyss once again, all led by the Coates family who clearly don't have a clue to run a football club. Why are you stating opinions and hearsay as facts?
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 26, 2024 16:02:16 GMT
I mean, it's not looking good is it?
We've got worse under him, which considering how shite we'd been under Schumacher is very concerning.
Wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if we cut the cord on him tonight to be honest.
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Post by slother on Oct 26, 2024 16:03:00 GMT
The worst Stoke manager we've had since we were relegated. We're getting absolutely battered.
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Post by serpico on Oct 26, 2024 16:03:34 GMT
When Pelach was appointed I said it would likely be the cherry on top of the shit pie we’ve been baking for 7 years, I’ve got absolutely nothing against the bloke but it was insanity to appoint someone with so little experience at a time when we’re still in a decline! It’s Almost suicidal! I appreciate good managers are in short supply but it just seemed unnecessary to sack Schumacher when we did! At least he’d had some experience of being in charge!
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 26, 2024 16:03:43 GMT
The worst Stoke manager we've had since we were relegated. We're getting absolutely battered. I'd be on the phone to Tony Mowbray asap to be honest.
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 26, 2024 16:03:47 GMT
Huge downgrade on Schuey. Just wow.
What’s the plan or the style? 5 at the back and we still can’t defend.
Clown show
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 26, 2024 16:04:07 GMT
I mean, it's not looking good is it? We've got worse under him, which considering how shite we'd been under Schumacher is very concerning. Wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if we cut the cord on him tonight to be honest. Managers deserve time to settle. But he's hardly been inspiring the last 3 matches. Getting rid now would be hilarious.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 26, 2024 16:04:16 GMT
Schumacher was not the answer. He was OK nothing more. His last game v Oxford was awful and I’m not sure we’d have got much better. It’s unfair to judge Pelach when he’s got none of his own players and is lacking 2 huge ingredients a DM and Gallagher. He showed v Pompey how good we can be in which was pretty much the only game he’s had Gallagher. He needs time. Pep would struggle with a team totally lacking in key ingredients that leave us toothless. The answer was a steady season for once, giving players time to acclimatise and develop and if Schumacher was worth that so be it. They've gone shit or bust when they really didn't need to. You just know Denise rinsed him out of his pocket money growing up.
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 26, 2024 16:05:09 GMT
But I’ll still be there. Doubt some of the people on this board will be. ( not including you in that) I'll be honest I probably won't. I've done 30 years and Stoke are my only interest in football nowadays. I don't find the way we play particularly entertaining, other people do, and that's fine, but I'll likely cash out at that point and find something better to do with my time. Feeling very much the same, Ive been watching Stoke since the Joe Jordan era, saw the tail end of the Vic, the rob styles master show cheating us in the play offs, the final day holding hands with Man City as we wandered off to Macc Town away the away day at Cardiff in the play off semis, the whole Icelandic ownership, The return to the top league, The European tour where Pulis shat his pants in Valencia, right the way through the Stokelona under Mark Hughes, thinking Lambert was "THE MAN", through several fucking charlatan managers (god willing), right the way back down to this. Ive got to say, Ive probs spent in the region of 30K easy in that time, and spent too much time watching something, that gives depreciating returns. If im honest Im about as close as I have ever been to saying "fuck it, im done" im not giving any more time or energy to this complete shit show. Im am now firmly in the camp that the Coates family need to sell up and fuck off. Baldy needs a new train set, and i can forgive a club on its arse with no money making this slow trip down to League One, but the biggest gambling company in the world, with all the data and finances, think that a fucking under qualified (but a club legend) director, employing a fucking second string (under qualified) spanish manager, lets face it, we are fucked. Not sure if this is worth it any more, over 75% of my life ive supported this club and over 10% of it i was shitting in nappies and thinking being fed by a plastic spoon while my mother made airoplane noises was cool. Fuck me its a shit Show. Also listen to his post match interview and try and imagine its a welsh accent, nothing is changing for the better.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 26, 2024 16:05:26 GMT
The worst Stoke manager we've had since we were relegated. We're getting absolutely battered. This. Get Mowbray in now.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 26, 2024 16:05:56 GMT
Didn’t see any of it, surely one of the ones where anything would have been a bonus. Have to hope we can get better and get more wins under our belts in the more winnable games.
Have to stay positive, and see what he can do. But please don’t go down this route of trying to defend more and playing wing backs. Our managers and coaches must have the same brain fart every other month or so it would seem.
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Post by BrummiePotter on Oct 26, 2024 16:06:32 GMT
I’ll pass judgement on Pelach after the next 5 games. I think if we don’t pick up 8 or 9 points then he needs to be gone. Agree, we need 9 points at least. Unfortunately I can’t see him being sacked even if we pick up 0 points as that would mean Coates and Walters admitting that they’d dropped another clanger and haven’t a clue what they’re doing. I’m not a doomster as like all fans I want Pelach to succeed, as if he is doing well then that means Stoke are doing well. However, we can’t deny what we’re seeing what’s happening in front of us - 4 games without a win now and a team that looks tactically inept and clueless.
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 26, 2024 16:06:49 GMT
I mean, it's not looking good is it? We've got worse under him, which considering how shite we'd been under Schumacher is very concerning. Wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if we cut the cord on him tonight to be honest. Some revisionism here. Schuey had us win 7 out of the last 10 games. We were 12th when he was fired. He was doing well and we were turning the corner. This disaster appointment had seen us plunge new depths. Not comparable at all. We are getting what we deserve for how the club treated Schuey.
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 26, 2024 16:07:25 GMT
Schumacher was not the answer. He was OK nothing more. His last game v Oxford was awful and I’m not sure we’d have got much better. It’s unfair to judge Pelach when he’s got none of his own players and is lacking 2 huge ingredients a DM and Gallagher. He showed v Pompey how good we can be in which was pretty much the only game he’s had Gallagher. He needs time. Pep would struggle with a team totally lacking in key ingredients that leave us toothless. Everyone has had a good time against Pompy, results and PPG are now lower than Schumacher, keep fucking smoking your stash my man, this is fucking awful. And this whole "not his players" sounds very much like the dwarf from the vallys.
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Post by figo85 on Oct 26, 2024 16:08:27 GMT
This is a gamble that hasn’t and probably won’t pay off. We look lost, and void of any ideas. Our defence is an abomination and I’d gladly cart Gibson off to what ever corner of the earth had the most rural football team.
Narcis won’t be here come June, so it’s just a case of waiting to see what other fucking idea the cretins behind the scenes come up with.
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Post by kevkj on Oct 26, 2024 16:10:22 GMT
To be honest its Schumachers brittle, lilly livered defence and midfield. I dont think any manager would change that. Crap individually and collectively. Only Philips any use.
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 26, 2024 16:10:41 GMT
I mean, it's not looking good is it? We've got worse under him, which considering how shite we'd been under Schumacher is very concerning. Wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if we cut the cord on him tonight to be honest. Some revisionism here. Schuey had us win 7 out of the last 10 games. We were 12th when he was fired. He was doing well and we were turning the corner. This disaster appointment had seen us plunge new depths. Not comparable at all. We are getting what we deserve for how the club treated Schuey. Nah, we'd been shite this season under him. Awful v Watford, against West Brom and battered at Oxford. He needed to go but to replace him with someone akin to on work experience was naive at best, a fucking atrocious decision at worst.
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 26, 2024 16:11:39 GMT
The worst Stoke manager we've had since we were relegated. We're getting absolutely battered. I'd be on the phone to Tony Mowbray asap to be honest. And this ladies and gentleman, is firstly a genuinely good call, and secondly an indictment on how far we have slumped.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 26, 2024 16:11:48 GMT
Get him gone asap. Since he’s come we watch full games of Stoke and I wonder when we are going to do something. Pathetic gamble and Walter’s needs to go too.
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Post by Han Solo on Oct 26, 2024 16:13:00 GMT
Schumacher was not the answer. He was OK nothing more. His last game v Oxford was awful and I’m not sure we’d have got much better. It’s unfair to judge Pelach when he’s got none of his own players and is lacking 2 huge ingredients a DM and Gallagher. He showed v Pompey how good we can be in which was pretty much the only game he’s had Gallagher. He needs time. Pep would struggle with a team totally lacking in key ingredients that leave us toothless. The longer Gallagher is out the better he gets. The mistake isn’t signing Gallagher on his ability it’s signing him on his injury record. Always was. Add to that the only signing at DM has never played. I don’t mind that if we have decent cover but we don’t.
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 26, 2024 16:13:58 GMT
I mean, it's not looking good is it? We've got worse under him, which considering how shite we'd been under Schumacher is very concerning. Wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if we cut the cord on him tonight to be honest. Managers deserve time to settle. But he's hardly been inspiring the last 3 matches. Getting rid now would be hilarious. Southampton got rid on Nathan Jones after 8 league games.......
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 26, 2024 16:14:02 GMT
I'd be on the phone to Tony Mowbray asap to be honest. And this ladies and gentleman, is firstly a genuinely good call, and secondly an indictment on how far we have slumped. Mowbray would be a huge improvement. He's sensible, can work with younger players and this league wouldn't scare him. He's managed another basket case in Sunderland, who are a bigger club than us too. Admit we've made a mistake Stoke and move on.
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Post by Han Solo on Oct 26, 2024 16:14:23 GMT
Schumacher was not the answer. He was OK nothing more. His last game v Oxford was awful and I’m not sure we’d have got much better. It’s unfair to judge Pelach when he’s got none of his own players and is lacking 2 huge ingredients a DM and Gallagher. He showed v Pompey how good we can be in which was pretty much the only game he’s had Gallagher. He needs time. Pep would struggle with a team totally lacking in key ingredients that leave us toothless. Walters said we had a fantastic young squad which he put together and just needed a good coach. Which one is it? We have some very good young players but you need a balance. We don’t have it.
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Post by robstokie on Oct 26, 2024 16:15:02 GMT
I'd be on the phone to Tony Mowbray asap to be honest. And this ladies and gentleman, is firstly a genuinely good call, and secondly an indictment on how far we have slumped. I can't stand Mowbray, but I would crawl naked on burning coals with smashed glass interspersed to get him and bring him back over this utterly fucking clueless fraud! We are talking Nutty Nath territory here Or we could eat humble pie and sack both Walters and Pelach off and go back for Schuey!
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Post by BrummiePotter on Oct 26, 2024 16:15:05 GMT
The worst Stoke manager we've had since we were relegated. We're getting absolutely battered. We’ve had our fair share of poor managers over the past 7 years, the common denominator is Mr Coates. Not sure yet if Pelach is the worst of the bunch - he needs to go some to beat Nathan Jones but he’s definitely on track at the moment! I definitely know who is the worst club chairman in the league at present though. Absolutely clueless.
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Post by spoton on Oct 26, 2024 16:16:54 GMT
The worst Stoke manager we've had since we were relegated. We're getting absolutely battered. I'd be on the phone to Tony Mowbray asap to be honest. Always said he was the answer
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Post by Waggy on Oct 26, 2024 16:17:29 GMT
To be honest its Schumachers brittle, lilly livered defence and midfield. I dont think any manager would change that. Crap individually and collectively. Only Philips any use. I think it’s Walter’s midfield. Didn’t Schumacher want 2 other midfielders in before the deadline. We especially miss a ball winner and a runner. We are too lethargic and have no battle in the middle
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