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Post by vidigoals on Oct 24, 2024 11:35:28 GMT
Get away, the displays at Watford & Oxford were nothing short of embarrassing. I understand your bias I really do, I liked Schuey but this is just garbage. We're acting like we've sacked somebody who had us charging at the play-offs. His PPG this season would have us finishing at 55 points, good enough for 19th last year. His PPG for the entirety of his tenure would've had us finishing with 62pts this year, good enough for 13th. He wasn't setting the world alight and the ones above him clearly want better. I stood there at Oxford wondering what the hell I was watching, tactically woeful. The introduction of a young foreign head coach with his own ideas will take time and we'll go through dips especially this early on, but at least now we have an identity, I didn't see this once under Schuey, or Neil for that matter. It's glaringly clear how unfit the squad left is, and that's alarming. Saying we've dropped a ball with this appointment and referring back to Shuey's 'greatness' already is just clutching at straws. Let it go and give it time. It could be a disaster, but that can't be judged yet. It could be a great move, but that can't be judged yet. What identity? There was nothing on show on Tuesday to suggest the new coach has a clue. Doesn't mean I want him gone, we can't keep changing but he has one hell of a job on his hands. It's clear how we're trying to play in and out of possession. That doesn't mean we're great at it yet, but I can see what we're trying to do and how he's trying to coach them. In possession, he wants them to be patient and use the width, wait for openings. On occasion we look for the surprise pass through the middle of the press. Players like Moran who can find that space and then find the killer pass in the final third are key to this - problematically our 2 CB's don't suit this, neither fill me with confidence when looking for that killer pass into midfield and that is worrying. Out of possession we don't want to get caught high, we're seemingly happy to soak up the pressure and accept shots, it's clear enough. We do have a top keeper and players who will throw themselves in front of the ball, it's build around that because we simply have no pace back there, play with a high line and we'll get mullered more often than not. It is far from perfect, but I can at least see what we're trying to do and I can get behind that. Seeing what kind of player we try and bring in in January will also be key to that. The more they're coached the more they'll improve but we are a lower-end championship side and we'll need to be patient and accept that whilst we build upwards. |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 24, 2024 11:42:34 GMT
What identity? There was nothing on show on Tuesday to suggest the new coach has a clue. Doesn't mean I want him gone, we can't keep changing but he has one hell of a job on his hands. It's clear how we're trying to play in and out of possession. That doesn't mean we're great at it yet, but I can see what we're trying to do and how he's trying to coach them. In possession, he wants them to be patient and use the width, wait for openings. On occasion we look for the surprise pass through the middle of the press. Players like Moran who can find that space and then find the killer pass in the final third are key to this - problematically our 2 CB's don't suit this, neither fill me with confidence when looking for that killer pass into midfield and that is worrying. Out of possession we don't want to get caught high, we're seemingly happy to soak up the pressure and accept shots, it's clear enough. We do have a top keeper and players who will throw themselves in front of the ball, it's build around that because we simply have no pace back there, play with a high line and we'll get mullered more often than not. It is far from perfect, but I can at least see what we're trying to do and I can get behind that. Seeing what kind of player we try and bring in in January will also be key to that. The more they're coached the more they'll improve but we are a lower-end championship side and we'll need to be patient and accept that whilst we build upwards. OK fair enough but I didn't see any of that on Tuesday. We had zero width, players who can't run, fullbacks exposed and most of the team clearly unfit. Like I say, he's got a hell of a job. |
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Post by pavel on Oct 24, 2024 12:07:50 GMT
It's clear how we're trying to play in and out of possession. That doesn't mean we're great at it yet, but I can see what we're trying to do and how he's trying to coach them. In possession, he wants them to be patient and use the width, wait for openings. On occasion we look for the surprise pass through the middle of the press. Players like Moran who can find that space and then find the killer pass in the final third are key to this - problematically our 2 CB's don't suit this, neither fill me with confidence when looking for that killer pass into midfield and that is worrying. Out of possession we don't want to get caught high, we're seemingly happy to soak up the pressure and accept shots, it's clear enough. We do have a top keeper and players who will throw themselves in front of the ball, it's build around that because we simply have no pace back there, play with a high line and we'll get mullered more often than not. It is far from perfect, but I can at least see what we're trying to do and I can get behind that. Seeing what kind of player we try and bring in in January will also be key to that. The more they're coached the more they'll improve but we are a lower-end championship side and we'll need to be patient and accept that whilst we build upwards. OK fair enough but I didn't see any of that on Tuesday. We had zero width, players who can't run, fullbacks exposed and most of the team clearly unfit. Like I say, he's got a hell of a job. Pelach was always on a hiding to nothing, he’s going to be another manager/coach eaten by this dysfunctional club. Never mind we can start all over again, and again, again, again. As ever the malaise starts at the top, a club with no vision or ethos. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 24, 2024 12:48:09 GMT
What identity? There was nothing on show on Tuesday to suggest the new coach has a clue. Doesn't mean I want him gone, we can't keep changing but he has one hell of a job on his hands. It's clear how we're trying to play in and out of possession. That doesn't mean we're great at it yet, but I can see what we're trying to do and how he's trying to coach them. In possession, he wants them to be patient and use the width, wait for openings. On occasion we look for the surprise pass through the middle of the press. Players like Moran who can find that space and then find the killer pass in the final third are key to this - problematically our 2 CB's don't suit this, neither fill me with confidence when looking for that killer pass into midfield and that is worrying. Out of possession we don't want to get caught high, we're seemingly happy to soak up the pressure and accept shots, it's clear enough. We do have a top keeper and players who will throw themselves in front of the ball, it's build around that because we simply have no pace back there, play with a high line and we'll get mullered more often than not. It is far from perfect, but I can at least see what we're trying to do and I can get behind that. Seeing what kind of player we try and bring in in January will also be key to that. The more they're coached the more they'll improve but we are a lower-end championship side and we'll need to be patient and accept that whilst we build upwards. Yes I agree. There definitely seems to be a plan and even if it isn't working all the time the players look like they have bought into it and have the potential to make it work. I expect results will be up and down all season but providing Pelach and the players just crack on trying to make it work I think we will be ok. |
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Post by vidigoals on Oct 24, 2024 13:23:05 GMT
It's clear how we're trying to play in and out of possession. That doesn't mean we're great at it yet, but I can see what we're trying to do and how he's trying to coach them. In possession, he wants them to be patient and use the width, wait for openings. On occasion we look for the surprise pass through the middle of the press. Players like Moran who can find that space and then find the killer pass in the final third are key to this - problematically our 2 CB's don't suit this, neither fill me with confidence when looking for that killer pass into midfield and that is worrying. Out of possession we don't want to get caught high, we're seemingly happy to soak up the pressure and accept shots, it's clear enough. We do have a top keeper and players who will throw themselves in front of the ball, it's build around that because we simply have no pace back there, play with a high line and we'll get mullered more often than not. It is far from perfect, but I can at least see what we're trying to do and I can get behind that. Seeing what kind of player we try and bring in in January will also be key to that. The more they're coached the more they'll improve but we are a lower-end championship side and we'll need to be patient and accept that whilst we build upwards. OK fair enough but I didn't see any of that on Tuesday. We had zero width, players who can't run, fullbacks exposed and most of the team clearly unfit. Like I say, he's got a hell of a job. The first goal shows elements of it. That direct pass through the middle from the CB into Moran. He turns and immediately finds Bocat who had the width. We try to do it often and I'm sure Philipps would be far better suited, Tchamadeu too but he leaves us weaker defensively. It's a fine balance and he's got a job on getting it right I agree. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 25, 2024 12:35:25 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 25, 2024 15:15:58 GMT
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 25, 2024 15:52:01 GMT
He needs to get a shave! 🤬
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Post by stokiedan17 on Oct 25, 2024 16:47:26 GMT
I think we all need to calm down around this.
Everything around the club every result every press conference is being blown out of proportion.
For those crucifying walters because he sacked Schumacher let’s not forget that his first 10 league games were
3 draws 3 wins 4 losses.
13 goals conceded
9 scored
Pelach in his first 6 games so far are
3 draws 1 win 2 losses
9 conceded
10 scored.
There’s not a great deal separating them at the minute other than we look like scoring more goals under pelach than Schumacher.
But with that obviously comes a higher risk of conceding.
All we need to do is get the balance right and we’ll be golden. Let’s just calm down and enjoy the ride. We’re going to get battered some games We will also dish out some batterings. Let’s just stop microanalysing everything and let them get on with it.
It’s been 6 games.
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 25, 2024 16:48:33 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 25, 2024 16:58:28 GMT
I saw this the other day and couldn’t remember where I posted the snoop dogg thing. Just shows who’s out there and where they’re willing to spend money. People will learn…..🤣🤣 |
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Post by spirered on Oct 25, 2024 17:24:42 GMT
I think we all need to calm down around this. Everything around the club every result every press conference is being blown out of proportion. For those crucifying walters because he sacked Schumacher let’s not forget that his first 10 league games were 3 draws 3 wins 4 losses. 13 goals conceded 9 scored Pelach in his first 6 games so far are 3 draws 1 win 2 losses 9 conceded 10 scored. There’s not a great deal separating them at the minute other than we look like scoring more goals under pelach than Schumacher. But with that obviously comes a higher risk of conceding. All we need to do is get the balance right and we’ll be golden. Let’s just calm down and enjoy the ride. We’re going to get battered some games We will also dish out some batterings. Let’s just stop microanalysing everything and let them get on with it. It’s been 6 games. Agree with this. For good of bad, SS had a few midfielders to choose from, including Laurent, Baker, Johnson, Gooch etc...Pelach has come in with a non existent midfield. No wonder he's just trying to by pass the midfield. The question is, how have the club allowed this to happen. Schumacher or Walters who knows, but it's a decision that has fucked the season up. Oh I forgot about the Japanese guy, that was inspirational signing!! How are the club so incompetent year after year...grrr |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 25, 2024 17:32:03 GMT
Are you sure you're not aiming for the scene from Pulp Fiction... Marsellus Wallace - Dr Dre Butch - Eminem Zed - SJW Maynard (shop owner) - JC Gimp - Narcis..... 😂
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 25, 2024 18:51:29 GMT
I saw this the other day and couldn’t remember where I posted the snoop dogg thing. Just shows who’s out there and where they’re willing to spend money. People will learn…..🤣🤣 Cost of entry zero in comparison to the 150m plus the family have invested in equity |
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 25, 2024 18:58:18 GMT
I saw this the other day and couldn’t remember where I posted the snoop dogg thing. Just shows who’s out there and where they’re willing to spend money. People will learn…..🤣🤣 Cost of entry zero in comparison to the 150m plus the family have invested in equity Loose change. |
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Post by nonameface on Oct 25, 2024 19:05:27 GMT
He sounds pretty tired in the last video compared to how he came across at the start. Hope he gets given a decent period of time because he’s clearly changing the expectations with training, which in theory pays off down the line.
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Post by ceejays on Oct 25, 2024 22:54:06 GMT
Well double training sessions in the international break doesn’t seem to have given us this high intensity high press on the front foot football promised now by a succession of managers / coaches . You do really wonder
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Post by headsgoup on Oct 26, 2024 9:17:55 GMT
Once again, we drew 2-2.
We're lower mid in the Championship form table, which seems about right.
The coach sees our pedestrian defence and sits low - correct move.
As a result we're desperate for some athleticism in the midfield to close the gap between the back and the front, but there's nothing he can realistically do about that yet.
Up top, we look decent. Not great, but decent.
My only complaint so far is that he should have clogged up the midfield at half time against Bristol City, and to hell with entertainment. The stats showed we were very, very lucky to be where we were at that point.
Otherwise, he's making broadly sensible decisions, I'd say.
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Post by frasier37 on Oct 26, 2024 9:25:54 GMT
Once again, we drew 2-2. We're lower mid in the Championship form table, which seems about right. The coach sees our pedestrian defence and sits low - correct move. As a result we're desperate for some athleticism in the midfield to close the gap between the back and the front, but there's nothing he can realistically do about that yet. Up top, we look decent. Not great, but decent. My only complaint so far is that he should have clogged up the midfield at half time against Bristol City, and to hell with entertainment. The stats showed we were very, very lucky to be where we were at that point. Otherwise, he's making broadly sensible decisions, I'd say. Stats show that *only the heroics of a keeper on super form kept us in those draws When his form decreases, or God forbid ...injury I dread to think where we will be. |
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 26, 2024 14:40:28 GMT
How long before we are issuing another P45?
1 Monday
2 Bonfire night
3 Xmas
4 End of January transfer window,
Surely he wont see out the season.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 26, 2024 14:42:45 GMT
The way its going,half time.
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 26, 2024 14:43:42 GMT
The way its going,half time. We are not even in the game. Its fucking depressing. |
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Post by samuel32 on Oct 26, 2024 14:43:51 GMT
To Jon Walters , yes. I love our club too much to watch him treat it like a gambling chip
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Post by atko57 on Oct 26, 2024 14:44:43 GMT
We are shite..
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Post by starkiller on Oct 26, 2024 14:47:40 GMT
Better than what we last saw under Schumacher.
We just need to buy better players
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Post by nonameface on Oct 26, 2024 14:48:45 GMT
Has anyone improved under Narcis so far?
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 26, 2024 14:49:22 GMT
Better than what we last saw under Schumacher. We just need to buy better players I would like to think so, but honestly its not better. Im not calling for a return of Schumacher, but this is fucking dire. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 26, 2024 14:50:06 GMT
Has anyone improved under Narcis so far? The keeper |
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 26, 2024 14:50:38 GMT
Has anyone improved under Narcis so far? Maybe the keeper at a push, but that could just be him getting match sharp. Lets face it hes doing just as much work as he did at Rotherham last season. |
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Post by bubbleblower on Oct 26, 2024 14:51:45 GMT
When he was appointed I said him & JW will be gone by Jan I sticking with that unfortunately
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