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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 23, 2024 7:05:17 GMT
His first six games:
Hull: First half ok, second half dreadful Boro: A dreadful performance Portsmouth: A bizarrely brilliant match Swansea: Ended the game well but Viktor kept us in it. Norwich: Viktor kept us in it first half, pleasing second. Bristol City: After going two up, we were effectively battered for 75 minutes and only 5 fine saves from Viktor kept us in it.
P6 W1 D3 L2
113 shots against.
I've got a general sense of being massively underwhelmed, thus far.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 23, 2024 7:48:35 GMT
His first six games: Hull: First half ok, second half dreadful Boro: A dreadful performance Portsmouth: A bizarrely brilliant match Swansea: Ended the game well but Viktor kept us in it. Norwich: Viktor kept us in it first half, pleasing second. Bristol City: After going two up, we were effectively battered for 75 minutes and only 5 fine saves from Viktor kept us in it. P6 W1 D3 L2 113 shots against. I've got a general sense of being massively underwhelmed, thus far. Doesn’t compare well to what went before and it’s only getting tougher over the next 2 months , he cant be held repossnoble for the terrible squad balance , the sighing of crocs and the leaving of better players than we have now , but he needs to walk up and realise we need a bolster the midfield and grind out sone results to get to 25 by Jan otherwise we will be part of his learning in a short stay
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Post by cheadlepotter on Oct 23, 2024 7:55:43 GMT
He’ll be told otherwise from those above him but he needs to drop Junho. Neither Junho or Manhoef can play LM/RM defensively but at least Manhoef offers us something going forward. Junho is bone idle when defending and his assist/goal output is very poor.
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Post by fca47 on Oct 23, 2024 8:07:21 GMT
Junho has gone from the great white hope to a bit of a liability. He was in a good position outside the box last night, and should have received a decent pass but seemed to be dreaming of his next move, completely missed the ball. I think the two wide players are suffering from the weakness of central midfield, only one of them should start, we need and extra man centrally
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Post by george2again on Oct 23, 2024 8:31:10 GMT
Junho has gone from the great white hope to a bit of a liability. He was in a good position outside the box last night, and should have received a decent pass but seemed to be dreaming of his next move, completely missed the ball. I think the two wide players are suffering from the weakness of central midfield, only one of them should start, we need and extra man centrally We don’t have the players for 4-4-2 end of. Get completely overrun in midfield. Two of our better players are suffering out wide as well.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 23, 2024 8:36:12 GMT
If we continue to play 4 4 2 with either both Million and Jun ho, we are going to get crucified, neither really defend..
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Post by jwhpotter on Oct 23, 2024 8:50:21 GMT
I like this manager and feel like we’re actually getting an identity, he needs time. The problem is that the squad is pretty thin and half the players can’t execute what he wants to do. You know there’s problems when you’ve got start Thompson in a midfield 2! Although Burger not much better. Junho completely disappeared, Million running himself into the ground. No plan B up front in the squad. Keeper immense! I’d try get Phillips back into the squad at the back. Felt like a negative move last night to go to a back 5 but I kinda like the fact that Pelach knew we were never gonna win that game so let’s not lose! That’s unfortunately where the squad is atm. Madness to get rid of both Baker and Laurent when we were bringing in a player that probably won’t be match fit until Christmas in Lawal
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Oct 23, 2024 9:01:49 GMT
I like Pelach too and the squad and the injuries aren't on him, but that was rank last night. Burger needs to come into a midfield three and Phillips replace Rose as Gibson is obviously deemed undroppable. I would also drop Junho.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 23, 2024 9:10:23 GMT
I like this manager and feel like we’re actually getting an identity, he needs time. The problem is that the squad is pretty thin and half the players can’t execute what he wants to do. You know there’s problems when you’ve got start Thompson in a midfield 2! Although Burger not much better. Junho completely disappeared, Million running himself into the ground. No plan B up front in the squad. Keeper immense! I’d try get Phillips back into the squad at the back. Felt like a negative move last night to go to a back 5 but I kinda like the fact that Pelach knew we were never gonna win that game so let’s not lose! That’s unfortunately where the squad is atm. Madness to get rid of both Baker and Laurent when we were bringing in a player that probably won’t be match fit until Christmas in Lawal What is our identity? I’m struggling to see one.
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Post by greenhoff on Oct 23, 2024 9:20:42 GMT
I like this manager and feel like we’re actually getting an identity, he needs time. The problem is that the squad is pretty thin and half the players can’t execute what he wants to do. You know there’s problems when you’ve got start Thompson in a midfield 2! Although Burger not much better. Junho completely disappeared, Million running himself into the ground. No plan B up front in the squad. Keeper immense! I’d try get Phillips back into the squad at the back. Felt like a negative move last night to go to a back 5 but I kinda like the fact that Pelach knew we were never gonna win that game so let’s not lose! That’s unfortunately where the squad is atm. Madness to get rid of both Baker and Laurent when we were bringing in a player that probably won’t be match fit until Christmas in Lawal What is our identity? I’m struggling to see one. To let the opposition have as many shots as possible to make everyone aware of how brilliant our keeper is. I’ve watched football a long time and I’ve never seen a defensive set up like ours when defending corners. Absolute madness
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 23, 2024 9:22:48 GMT
What is our identity? I’m struggling to see one. To let the opposition have as many shots as possible to make everyone aware of how brilliant our keeper is. I’ve watched football a long time and I’ve never seen a defensive set up like ours when defending corners. Absolute madness We're wide open aren't we? Why do we let teams take short corners and not get close to the ball. Manhoef stands in no man's land, it's bizarre.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 23, 2024 10:09:28 GMT
All these shots against us,how many shots have we had in the same amount of games?
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 23, 2024 10:20:33 GMT
To let the opposition have as many shots as possible to make everyone aware of how brilliant our keeper is. I’ve watched football a long time and I’ve never seen a defensive set up like ours when defending corners. Absolute madness We're wide open aren't we? Why do we let teams take short corners and not get close to the ball. Manhoef stands in no man's land, it's bizarre. The short corner thing was crazy. Surely either the coach or captain should have screamed at someone to close the crosser down.
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Post by telfordstokie on Oct 23, 2024 10:23:35 GMT
Junho has gone from the great white hope to a bit of a liability. He was in a good position outside the box last night, and should have received a decent pass but seemed to be dreaming of his next move, completely missed the ball. I think the two wide players are suffering from the weakness of central midfield, only one of them should start, we need and extra man centrally We don’t have the players for 4-4-2 end of. Get completely overrun in midfield. Two of our better players are suffering out wide as well. Until Gallagher comes back it probably needs Cannon dropping to the bench and Koumas as the lone striker (not a perfect option there but best choice we have right now). Cannon doesn’t work on his own but we can’t afford to build the team around that when it leaves the midfield so exposed.
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Post by wrightspies on Oct 23, 2024 16:03:44 GMT
Pèlach made subs to effectively kill the game and played for a point after the equaliser. We definitely should not be playing for a point at home, but that’s where we are. Had he not done this then in my opinion, we would have lost. He needs time!
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 23, 2024 16:26:19 GMT
I think Mowbray would or maybe needed around Christmas, or even before, if we fail to beat Derby or Millwall at home 😉
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Post by wonderwall on Oct 23, 2024 16:31:08 GMT
Read between the lines
He knows he’s inherited pants, and needs basically a new back 4 and a battling DM.
Hopefully Lowel is the next Viera.
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Post by karl on Oct 23, 2024 16:32:28 GMT
Not sure he will be able to do much in the January transfer window to resolve all the issues.
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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 23, 2024 17:14:12 GMT
How long was Chris Kamara in charge for?
Not sure this guy's going to beat it to be honest.
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 23, 2024 17:19:38 GMT
How long was Chris Kamara in charge for? Not sure this guy's going to beat it to be honest. Are you being serious Mr Trouserdog?
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 23, 2024 17:22:07 GMT
How long was Chris Kamara in charge for? Not sure this guy's going to beat it to be honest. 77 days 14 matches (won 1 drew 5 lost 8)
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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 23, 2024 17:27:47 GMT
How long was Chris Kamara in charge for? Not sure this guy's going to beat it to be honest. Are you being serious Mr Trouserdog? I think it's only going to take a run of 3 or 4 defeats and the crowd, most of whom felt Schumacher was doing a decent job, will turn on him. Performances have definitely taken a downturn since Schuey left, even if the results haven't. I couldn't believe what I was watching last night at times.
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 23, 2024 17:42:58 GMT
Are you being serious Mr Trouserdog? I think it's only going to take a run of 3 or 4 defeats and the crowd, most of whom felt Schumacher was doing a decent job, will turn on him. Performances have definitely taken a downturn since Schuey left, even if the results haven't. I couldn't believe what I was watching last night at times. If we lose on Saturday, it makes the Derby and Millwall games crucial. We'd need a minimum of four points. I genuinely feel sorry for him, he's got an unbalanced squad, devoid of pace. Our best players, Manhoef and Junho, are playing like they've never seen a football before. And the midfield is a car crash. It's non existent. Players like Bocat, Gibson, Thompson, they just aren't good enough. But, giving up so many chances, a lack of identity and purpose, plus some extremely poor results and performances, are leaving me worried. I know as much about NP six games in as I did when I said "Narcis who" when we sacked SS. Ultimately, and I said earlier I realise I'm open to being criticised here, I'd feel far more comfortable with a Mowbray type in charge than NP. I also get the giving him time option, but to do that we need to move aware from the "pretty shit" square of the board we find ourselves on quite soon.
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 23, 2024 17:46:28 GMT
Junho has gone from the great white hope to a bit of a liability. He was in a good position outside the box last night, and should have received a decent pass but seemed to be dreaming of his next move, completely missed the ball. I think the two wide players are suffering from the weakness of central midfield, only one of them should start, we need and extra man centrally it has nothing to do with central midfield that Manhoef and junho were utterly shit last night. It was all there own doing as it has been all season for junho
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 23, 2024 18:16:32 GMT
Are you being serious Mr Trouserdog? I think it's only going to take a run of 3 or 4 defeats and the crowd, most of whom felt Schumacher was doing a decent job, will turn on him. Performances have definitely taken a downturn since Schuey left, even if the results haven't. I couldn't believe what I was watching last night at times. Mmmm... Have to be honest I still feel a degree of optimism and feel this regime will eventually come good. Shudder at the thought of another manager in a couple of months. We certainly will be a laughing stock of a Club if that happens. Super Jonny Walters would be in a precarious position as well.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 23, 2024 18:27:10 GMT
I think it's only going to take a run of 3 or 4 defeats and the crowd, most of whom felt Schumacher was doing a decent job, will turn on him. Performances have definitely taken a downturn since Schuey left, even if the results haven't. I couldn't believe what I was watching last night at times. Mmmm... Have to be honest I still feel a degree of optimism and feel this regime will eventually come good. Shudder at the thought of another manager in a couple of months. We certainly will be a laughing stock of a Club if that happens. Super Jonny Walters would be in a precarious position as well. tbf you’ve been optimistic about some of the right shit managers we’ve had i the last 7 years
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Post by hooftastic on Oct 23, 2024 18:29:05 GMT
Whether he's pulling strings or not, it feels like we're playing how Walters would want us too if he was manager.
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Post by potters11 on Oct 23, 2024 18:34:04 GMT
Are you being serious Mr Trouserdog? I think it's only going to take a run of 3 or 4 defeats and the crowd, most of whom felt Schumacher was doing a decent job, will turn on him. Performances have definitely taken a downturn since Schuey left, even if the results haven't. I couldn't believe what I was watching last night at times. It surprised me last night Pèlach got the “you don’t know what you are doing” chant - he’s not had a honeymoon - well just look at the reaction to his first away match. I feel a little for him. You are right it’s mainly down to the fact most thought Schumacher was doing a decent job and didn’t like how it was handled coupled with what will soon be a near decade of stagnation. Patience amongst the fans is wearing thin….and rightly so!
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 23, 2024 18:36:40 GMT
Mmmm... Have to be honest I still feel a degree of optimism and feel this regime will eventually come good. Shudder at the thought of another manager in a couple of months. We certainly will be a laughing stock of a Club if that happens. Super Jonny Walters would be in a precarious position as well. tbf you’ve been optimistic about some of the right shit managers we’ve had i the last 7 years Being honest I can't really remember. 😄 Suppose my reaction to any new manager is optimism. Even Boskamp. We will be an absolute joke if this chap gets the sack in the next few months.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 23, 2024 18:45:24 GMT
It would have been interesting to see the kind of player NP would have wanted in during the summer if our board didn't do things arse about face ONCE AGAIN!!!
Every season we start with one manager who has brought in his players over the summer only for them to shortly after, get the boot, then he's replace with a new manager who doesn't particularly want the current crop, or at least some of them!!!
Half these players we have now, I doubt NP would have wanted during the summer!!!
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