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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 14, 2024 16:19:07 GMT
There’s going to be ups and downs and today doesn’t have to represent our season.
I think part of the problem today was that the expectations were really high after Plymouth and today bought that hope down with a big bump.
We were awful today but I think there’s been a fair amount of over reaction.
The Championships such a strange division with any team capable of beating each other as Plymouth showed today.
I don’t think Oxford are any great shakes but they’re certainly not whipping boys and bought well in the window particularly with Dembele.
There results have been decent so far so we shouldn’t be so surprised with the result.
Things do need to change but it only needs to be a little bit of tinkering. For me the biggest concern is CM where he still doesn’t seem to have sussed out his best line up.
For me we’re desperately missing an old head in the middle of the park like a Barry Bannon type as we’re way to passive and we don’t have someone who’ll drag us up when heads are down.
Until Lawal is fit Id bring Thompson back in. Even though he’s not the best he’s got some experience.
We’ve got a cracking front 3 but they were feeding on scraps.
Next week I’d go with Thompson, Moran and Burger or Sidibe.
Hopefully we’ve learnt some lessons today. Biggest one being not to start Gooch.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 14, 2024 16:31:24 GMT
No over reaction for me.
One good half against Coventry and a win over a very poor Plymouth don’t make up for the other 3 terrible results.
We haven’t improved at all under him.
It’s a shambles
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Post by Billy the kid on Sept 14, 2024 16:31:33 GMT
Shuey "We thought we had more than enough to beat Oxford" <---- So basically we turned up expecting to win, we got what we deserved.
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Post by milky on Sept 14, 2024 16:34:50 GMT
There’s going to be ups and downs all season and today doesn’t have to represent our season. I think part of the problem today was that the expectations were really high after Plymouth and today bought that hope down with a big bump. We were awful today but I think there’s been a fair amount of over reaction. The Championships such a strange division with any team capable of beating each other as Plymouth showed today. I don’t think Oxford are any great shakes but they’re certainly not whipping boys and bought well in the window particularly with Dembele. There results have been decent so far so we shouldn’t be so surprised with the result. Things do need to change but it only needs to be a little bit of tinkering. For me the biggest concern is CM where he still doesn’t seem to have sussed out his best line up. For me we’re desperately missing an old head in the middle of the park like a Barry Bannon type as we’re way to passive and we don’t have someone who’ll drag us up when heads are down. Until Lawal is fit Id bring Thompson back in. Even though he’s not the best he’s got some experience. We’ve got a cracking front 3 but they were feeding on scraps. Next week I’d go with Thompson, Moran and Burger or Sidibe. Hopefully we’ve learnt some lessons today. Biggest one being not to start Gooch. Agree with all that . The Gooch thing is a worry though . The lesson should have been learnt ,if not at Watford then definitely against West Brom yet he starts him again! Maybe some managers are just stubborn buggers and delusional,we seem to get more than our share of those type. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 14, 2024 16:43:07 GMT
There’s going to be ups and downs all season and today doesn’t have to represent our season. I think part of the problem today was that the expectations were really high after Plymouth and today bought that hope down with a big bump. We were awful today but I think there’s been a fair amount of over reaction. The Championships such a strange division with any team capable of beating each other as Plymouth showed today. I don’t think Oxford are any great shakes but they’re certainly not whipping boys and bought well in the window particularly with Dembele. There results have been decent so far so we shouldn’t be so surprised with the result. Things do need to change but it only needs to be a little bit of tinkering. For me the biggest concern is CM where he still doesn’t seem to have sussed out his best line up. For me we’re desperately missing an old head in the middle of the park like a Barry Bannon type as we’re way to passive and we don’t have someone who’ll drag us up when heads are down. Until Lawal is fit Id bring Thompson back in. Even though he’s not the best he’s got some experience. We’ve got a cracking front 3 but they were feeding on scraps. Next week I’d go with Thompson, Moran and Burger or Sidibe. Hopefully we’ve learnt some lessons today. Biggest one being not to start Gooch. Agree with all that . The Gooch thing is a worry though . The lesson should have been learnt ,if not at Watford then definitely against West Brom yet he starts him again! Maybe some managers are just stubborn buggers and delusional,we seem to get more than our share of those type. I don't think you'll have to worry about Gooch starting for a while after his injury today. |
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Post by LH_SCFC on Sept 14, 2024 16:45:58 GMT
Agree with all that . The Gooch thing is a worry though . The lesson should have been learnt ,if not at Watford then definitely against West Brom yet he starts him again! Maybe some managers are just stubborn buggers and delusional,we seem to get more than our share of those type. I don't think you'll have to worry about Gooch starting for a while after his injury today. Spoke to the Oxford club doctor post-game. Says Gooch will be out for a while. |
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Post by senojbor on Sept 14, 2024 16:46:48 GMT
No over reaction for me. One good half against Coventry and a win over a very poor Plymouth don’t make up for the other 3 terrible results. We haven’t improved at all under him. It’s a shambles That very poor Plymouth beat Sunderland today. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2024 16:47:33 GMT
That performance was as bad as Swansea away last season for me and totally unacceptable.
We’ve got to get a settled eleven and stick with it
Hopefully Cannon can play off Gallagher up top and we can also start and become more solid in a formation that suits the players we have.
The midfield today was non existent and must include Thompson until Lawal is fit for me.
Teams will attack Junior because they quite rightly see him as the weak link.
Big couple of games at home next week to try and get a couple of wins.
Also it’s become noticeable again that the first goal in our games is vital.
Amazing that 2 promoted teams in Oxford and Derby have both won 3 home games out of 3 so far 🤷♂️crazy league again
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Sept 14, 2024 16:55:23 GMT
We were desperately poor today but I do feel like a lot of posters would benefit from having a self-imposed oatcake blackout of at least a few hours following matches. It’s obviously way more noticeable when we’ve performed badly and lost, but it works the other way too with people completely over-reacting to good days and getting carried away.
I mean look at the Plymouth game. We score a late goal to win a tight match and everyone is fucking buzzing. The reality is we could’ve lost that game 1-0 instead without doing anything differently process-wise, and many of the posters loving life would be calling for the manager’s head. It’s not healthy.
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 14, 2024 16:58:06 GMT
Ashley Phillips need to play, he gets us 20 yards up the pitch’.
Gibson and Wilmot are the same player but one is left footed
And one is right.
For me it’s Phillips and one of those two.
We missed his driving runs from the back today.
Let’s not over react, we had players coming baxk from international duty carrying knocks etc.
They’re flying at home too.
We’ll be fine and once we find a way to get cannon in to the game we’ll be fine.
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Post by lordb on Sept 14, 2024 17:05:35 GMT
Awful for sure
This side needs a Brian Talbot
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Post by Mystic Stokie on Sept 14, 2024 17:10:33 GMT
Shuey "We thought we had more than enough to beat Oxford" <---- So basically we turned up expecting to win, we got what we deserved. I actually think this is the issue, we think we are better than what we are and I am sure this breeds complacency. Oxford on the other hand know what they are and know they have to earn the points by desire and determination which seems to be lacking in our performances. This League. as we all know takes no prisoners regardless of how big a club you are or think you are. |
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Post by collo68 on Sept 14, 2024 17:13:34 GMT
No over reaction for me. One good half against Coventry and a win over a very poor Plymouth don’t make up for the other 3 terrible results. We haven’t improved at all under him. It’s a shambles The same Plymouth who beat top of the league today |
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 14, 2024 17:15:40 GMT
No over reaction for me. One good half against Coventry and a win over a very poor Plymouth don’t make up for the other 3 terrible results. We haven’t improved at all under him. It’s a shambles No over reaction and then you proceed to completely overreact |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 14, 2024 17:50:07 GMT
No over reaction for me. One good half against Coventry and a win over a very poor Plymouth don’t make up for the other 3 terrible results. We haven’t improved at all under him. It’s a shambles No over reaction and then you proceed to completely overreact where’s he overreacting, just saying how it is isn’t he ? |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 14, 2024 18:03:12 GMT
There’s going to be ups and downs and today doesn’t have to represent our season. I think part of the problem today was that the expectations were really high after Plymouth and today bought that hope down with a big bump. We were awful today but I think there’s been a fair amount of over reaction. The Championships such a strange division with any team capable of beating each other as Plymouth showed today. I don’t think Oxford are any great shakes but they’re certainly not whipping boys and bought well in the window particularly with Dembele. There results have been decent so far so we shouldn’t be so surprised with the result. Things do need to change but it only needs to be a little bit of tinkering. For me the biggest concern is CM where he still doesn’t seem to have sussed out his best line up. For me we’re desperately missing an old head in the middle of the park like a Barry Bannon type as we’re way to passive and we don’t have someone who’ll drag us up when heads are down. Until Lawal is fit Id bring Thompson back in. Even though he’s not the best he’s got some experience. We’ve got a cracking front 3 but they were feeding on scraps. Next week I’d go with Thompson, Moran and Burger or Sidibe. Hopefully we’ve learnt some lessons today. Biggest one being not to start Gooch. Went today and we gave a bad goal away but had enough good situations to get something from the game but the composure and decision making in the final third were awful. Some players need to step up now Junho had a great chance today and needs to be taking them now if he has any higher ambitions and Burger is now our senior midfielder and has to start controlling games because we have rightly or wrongly got rid of all our experience in that area. Finally if our fuckwit fans keep booing such a young side it will get worse. By all means moan at the people who have changed direction again if it fails but hard on the players, the effort was there but Oxford were better where it matters most as has been the care fir far too long now. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 14, 2024 18:05:16 GMT
Awful for sure This side needs a Brian Talbot Instead we have Brian Snail |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 14, 2024 18:08:40 GMT
On the plus side winning a few and losing a few gets you higher up the table than farting around with a load of draws….
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Post by spoton on Sept 14, 2024 18:11:48 GMT
There’s going to be ups and downs and today doesn’t have to represent our season. I think part of the problem today was that the expectations were really high after Plymouth and today bought that hope down with a big bump. We were awful today but I think there’s been a fair amount of over reaction. The Championships such a strange division with any team capable of beating each other as Plymouth showed today. I don’t think Oxford are any great shakes but they’re certainly not whipping boys and bought well in the window particularly with Dembele. There results have been decent so far so we shouldn’t be so surprised with the result. Things do need to change but it only needs to be a little bit of tinkering. For me the biggest concern is CM where he still doesn’t seem to have sussed out his best line up. For me we’re desperately missing an old head in the middle of the park like a Barry Bannon type as we’re way to passive and we don’t have someone who’ll drag us up when heads are down. Until Lawal is fit Id bring Thompson back in. Even though he’s not the best he’s got some experience. We’ve got a cracking front 3 but they were feeding on scraps. Next week I’d go with Thompson, Moran and Burger or Sidibe. Hopefully we’ve learnt some lessons today. Biggest one being not to start Gooch. It had nothing to do with Gooch, they were just as bad after he went off |
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Post by jebbstuart on Sept 14, 2024 18:15:26 GMT
Today our defense was poor, we gave Oxford too much space and Junior was terrible he looks like a L1 or L2 player poor first touch and hits it to no-one. The midfield just did not exist we failed to hold onto the ball, the crosses were overhit. We just never looked like hitting the target, the shots we did have were from distance at the goalkeeper or ended up in the car park.
What actual plan did we have in the first place. Another wasted season.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 14, 2024 18:17:59 GMT
There’s going to be ups and downs and today doesn’t have to represent our season. I think part of the problem today was that the expectations were really high after Plymouth and today bought that hope down with a big bump. We were awful today but I think there’s been a fair amount of over reaction. The Championships such a strange division with any team capable of beating each other as Plymouth showed today. I don’t think Oxford are any great shakes but they’re certainly not whipping boys and bought well in the window particularly with Dembele. There results have been decent so far so we shouldn’t be so surprised with the result. Things do need to change but it only needs to be a little bit of tinkering. For me the biggest concern is CM where he still doesn’t seem to have sussed out his best line up. For me we’re desperately missing an old head in the middle of the park like a Barry Bannon type as we’re way to passive and we don’t have someone who’ll drag us up when heads are down. Until Lawal is fit Id bring Thompson back in. Even though he’s not the best he’s got some experience. We’ve got a cracking front 3 but they were feeding on scraps. Next week I’d go with Thompson, Moran and Burger or Sidibe. Hopefully we’ve learnt some lessons today. Biggest one being not to start Gooch. Went today and we gave a bad goal away but had enough good situations to get something from the game but the composure and decision making in the final third were awful. Some players need to step up now Junho had a great chance today and needs to be taking them now if he has any higher ambitions and Burger is now our senior midfielder and has to start controlling games because we have rightly or wrongly got rid of all our experience in that area. Finally if our fuckwit fans keep booing such a young side it will get worse. By all means moan at the people who have changed direction again if it fails but hard on the players, the effort was there but Oxford were better where it matters most as has been the care fir far too long now. Excellent post. Individually we have some very exciting players but we don’t seem to be gelling. In time I think it will happen especially when we get Lawal and Pearson back. It’ll also be nice to see the young lad from Japan. I’m hoping he’ll get a runout in the cup game. I know Gallagher wasn’t lauded when he joined but I do think in games like today he could make a difference because he’s quite physical and has to be a better option than Ennis off the bench. There’s plenty of reason to be hopeful. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 14, 2024 18:18:58 GMT
What was the use in picking Cannon if we weren't going to give him the ball I can't remember him touching the ball in the 1st half,& once or twice in the 2nd before going off,I bet he wonders what the fuck am I doing here?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 14, 2024 18:19:21 GMT
Agree with all that . The Gooch thing is a worry though . The lesson should have been learnt ,if not at Watford then definitely against West Brom yet he starts him again! Maybe some managers are just stubborn buggers and delusional,we seem to get more than our share of those type. I don't think you'll have to worry about Gooch starting for a while after his injury today. Rel shame he’s more physicality than most which is a huge issue and very versatile |
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 14, 2024 18:34:41 GMT
There’s going to be ups and downs and today doesn’t have to represent our season. I think part of the problem today was that the expectations were really high after Plymouth and today bought that hope down with a big bump. We were awful today but I think there’s been a fair amount of over reaction. The Championships such a strange division with any team capable of beating each other as Plymouth showed today. I don’t think Oxford are any great shakes but they’re certainly not whipping boys and bought well in the window particularly with Dembele. There results have been decent so far so we shouldn’t be so surprised with the result. Things do need to change but it only needs to be a little bit of tinkering. For me the biggest concern is CM where he still doesn’t seem to have sussed out his best line up. For me we’re desperately missing an old head in the middle of the park like a Barry Bannon type as we’re way to passive and we don’t have someone who’ll drag us up when heads are down. Until Lawal is fit Id bring Thompson back in. Even though he’s not the best he’s got some experience. We’ve got a cracking front 3 but they were feeding on scraps. Next week I’d go with Thompson, Moran and Burger or Sidibe. Hopefully we’ve learnt some lessons today. Biggest one being not to start Gooch. I will always applaud a post that’s made in context. Spot on mate. |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 14, 2024 18:43:20 GMT
just take the “but “ off the title of the thread then it’s factually correct
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 14, 2024 18:49:20 GMT
I think we have the talent,but no bottle.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 14, 2024 18:53:04 GMT
Good point above
I agree Thompson has to come in until one of the newbies are ready as is no one else
No point in having exciting forwards if isolated .
Blaming Gooch for no reason as he wasn't responsible for such a poor all round performance.
This division you can go from looking terrible to exciting in 3 days as we know but that and Watford were horror shows. We haven't learned from either and West Brom as far as midfield is concerned.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 14, 2024 18:58:56 GMT
No over reaction and then you proceed to completely overreact where’s he overreacting, just saying how it is isn’t he ? By saying its a shambles after 5 league games. That's how. |
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Post by sealion100 on Sept 14, 2024 19:04:04 GMT
No need to panic yet … but an awful lot of fans have noticed we’ve been completely bullied out of at least three of the games this season ( Watford, West Brom and today) think a couple of old style bouncers are needed in midfield just to shore things up during away matches … a couple of away draws wouldn’t hurt
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 14, 2024 19:10:54 GMT
I do think Gallagher could really help cannon was just swamped today but the coach would need to adapt to two up top
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